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The Hazards of Belief

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,989 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Beruthiel wrote: »
    I've decided that these are the men involved.
    No, I'm afraid it was in fact Pat Mustard and his two triplet brothers.
    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRGSTME2lWthUCh0EVuWeqfC7fawFbTWVkbkKW0vODpeo1_SQhk


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,626 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    Beruthiel wrote: »
    I've decided that these are the men involved.
    Careful now, lots of flesh involved.
    And socks I reckon. Plenty of socks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,745 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Beruthiel wrote: »
    I've decided that these are the men involved.
    Careful now, lots of flesh involved.

    Oh my very goodness.

    Any chance that these gentlemen could be deported to my house?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    His name is Wirathu, he calls himself the "Burmese Bin Laden" and he is a
    Buddhist monk who is stoking religious hatred across Burma.

    The saffron-robed 45-year-old regularly shares his hate-filled rants through
    DVD and social media, in which he warns against Muslims who "target innocent young Burmese girls and rape them", and "indulge in cronyism".

    To ears untrained in the Burmese language, his sermons seem steady and calm –
    almost trance-like – with Wirathu rocking back and forth, eyes downcast.
    Translate his softly spoken words, however, and it becomes clear how his
    paranoia and fear, muddled with racist stereotypes and unfounded rumours, have helped to incite violence and spread misinformation in a nation still stumbling towards democracy.

    "We are being raped in every town, being sexually harassed in every town,
    being ganged up on and bullied in every town," Wirathu recently told the
    Guardian, speaking from the Masoeyein monastery in Mandalay where he is
    based.


    "In every town, there is a crude and savage Muslim majority."
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/18/buddhist-monk-spreads-hatred-burma

    4% of the population are muslim....
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Burma


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,493 ✭✭✭DazMarz


    On second thoughts...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,550 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    Careful now!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,866 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Isn't is funny how all these religions claim to be about peace and love and tolerance and understanding, in theory but the reality never, ever matches up. It's about time buddhism got some critical analysis in the west :)

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    ARTICLES which appear on the young people's website Spunout.ie will be vetted
    more strictly by the Health Service Executive (HSE) in future following
    controversy over its views on "threesomes".

    Health Minister James Reilly said the site, which is partly funded by the
    HSE, is reviewing the threesomes article, which was first criticised by his
    colleague Michelle Mulherin TD, who said it could encourage risky behaviour.
    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/hse-to-monitor-youth-site-after-threesomes-article-29209204.html

    Michelle Mulherin....
    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/abortion-debate-single-mayo-td-michelle-mulherin-defends-fornication-remarks-26844965.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,866 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Ms. Fornication :rolleyes:

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    TYpLJpOh.jpg

    Depressing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,550 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    Gbear wrote: »
    Depressing.

    Surely that's a parody? It's a collection of statements that we would deem the most ridiculous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,779 ✭✭✭MrPudding


    TheChizler wrote: »
    Surely that's a parody? It's a collection of statements that we would deem the most ridiculous.
    Whether this particular example is a parody or not does not take away from the fact that it is highly likely that somewhere there are tests like this.

    MrP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    TheChizler wrote: »
    Surely that's a parody? It's a collection of statements that we would deem the most ridiculous.

    It doesn't look like it, but anyone could just make one up and print it out so anythings possible.

    I suppose that it seems plausible to me because it seems like a lot of fairly smart religious nuts in America have identified the problems created for them associated with education so having a kind of bullet-pointed approach to instilling their bollocks in kids makes sense.

    It makes it easier for them if they know their stock rebuttals to common atheist/scientific questions and claims.

    For me this is an abuse of human rights. Kids should have a right to an education. This doesn't qualify. It's worse than teaching them nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,192 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Meanwhile, in the J C household...


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 19,485 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    wpid-5ddxi8zh.jpeg

    Eh...surely a parody?


  • Posts: 81,309 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Kate Echoing Tether


    I'm thinking the dinosaurs one may not be
    http://www.christianbook.com/dinosaurs-genesis-the-gospel/pd/00154X?product_redirect=1&Ntt=00154X&item_code=&Ntk=keywords&event=ESRCP

    00154x_99_bkc_dp.jpg




    January 20, 2008

    Stacy
    We like these DVDs overall, but have two beefs: 1. The quality of the audio is lacking when Ken Hamm is lecturing.2. The teaching assumes that kids know and are biased towards belief in evolution. My kids, who are home schooled, believe in the biblical creation account.

    August 26, 2007

    Gerald Foster
    Tremendous rebuttal to the evolutionary teaching that children are receiving in school, in movies and TV. Presented in a way that keeps children's interest. I highly recommend it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Time for bluewolf's cookies for creationist children initiative.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,279 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    bluewolf wrote: »
    January 20, 2008

    Stacy
    We like these DVDs overall, but have two beefs: 1. The quality of the audio is lacking when Ken Hamm is lecturing.2. The teaching assumes that kids know and are biased towards belief in evolution. My kids, who are home schooled, believe in the biblical creation account.

    August 26, 2007

    Gerald Foster
    Tremendous rebuttal to the evolutionary teaching that children are receiving in school, in movies and TV. Presented in a way that keeps children's interest. I highly recommend it.

    Please tell me you made these up. :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,550 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    Oh dear, I was holding out in the hope that these people could be given the benefit of the doubt... And as said above it's more than likely happened somewhere sometime.


  • Posts: 81,309 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Kate Echoing Tether


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    Please tell me you made these up. :mad:

    Customer reviews of the book on the website :(


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Video footage has emerged showing Burmese police standing by as Buddhist mobs wielding sticks and swords attack Muslims in Meikhtila – where last month more than 40 people were killed and 12,000 displaced – on the same day that the EU is expected to permanently lift all sanctions against the country.

    The footage, apparently shot by police officers, shows Buddhist crowds looting and ransacking a Muslim jewellery shop,
    cheering when Muslims are attacked, and setting fire to mosques and houses. Later, a man who has been set alight and is believed to be Muslim can be seen lying in the road, surrounded by a crowd of people. "Pour water on him," a man in the crowd commands. "Let him die," shouts another. "No water for him."

    Both Buddhist monks and police can be seen through much of the footage – the monks often taking part in the violence, the police watching immobile as it progresses.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/22/burmese-police-buddhists-attack-muslims

    Video contains scene showing young lad beaten to death (a monk amongst the killers) so don't go a-clicking if you're easily upset.


  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I thought everything was fine, sure the EU just lifted sanctions against the country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,909 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    http://babyandbump.momtastic.com/breastfeeding/1834661-quick-question-muslim-breastfeeding-mums.html

    Just finding it disturbing that there can be such a serious discussion about whether/how to fast for religious reasons while breastfeeding (and pregnant). And if you decided not to fast, as you get two years 'off' per child, do you have to make it up by fasting for those days at some other point in your life or be really radical and make a charitable donation instead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Nodin wrote: »
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/22/burmese-police-buddhists-attack-muslims

    Video contains scene showing young lad beaten to death (a monk amongst the killers) so don't go a-clicking if you're easily upset.

    I originally read that as 'Burmese python". Now that would have been interesting...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Philadelphia couple's second child dies due to them praying instead of seeking medical assistance:
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/2nd-child-pa-couple-dies-praying-19020607#.UXaJprWG1nF

    'the hell is wrong with people!?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    Galvasean wrote: »
    Philadelphia couple's second child dies due to them praying instead of seeking medical assistance:
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/2nd-child-pa-couple-dies-praying-19020607#.UXaJprWG1nF

    'the hell is wrong with people!?

    But...but...as a married heterosexual Christian couple they are the ideal parents...



    :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,850 ✭✭✭FouxDaFaFa


    Galvasean wrote: »
    Philadelphia couple's second child dies due to them praying instead of seeking medical assistance:
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/2nd-child-pa-couple-dies-praying-19020607#.UXaJprWG1nF

    'the hell is wrong with people!?
    Jesus Christ. If they have any surviving children, they should be taken off them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,745 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Galvasean wrote: »
    Philadelphia couple's second child dies due to them praying instead of seeking medical assistance:
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/2nd-child-pa-couple-dies-praying-19020607#.UXaJprWG1nF

    'the hell is wrong with people!?

    Maybe I'm just harsh, but I'd be treating this one as murder.

    They got away with a manslaughter verdict on the other child, and then they knowingly, and in breach of their probation terms, withheld medical care for this child.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,626 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    While I suspect what they did isn't technically murder, it's certainly a word that comes to my mind reading that article.

    The Philadelphia equivalent of social services need to take a look at themselves, too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Andrewf20 wrote: »
    the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vices

    Sounds like something from Harry Potter.


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