Dash cam saves your ass (no Roundabout stuff please :)

dr.fuzzenstein · 13-04-2013 11:34AM

BohsCeltic wrote: »

They changed a lane in blanchardstown SC at the roundabout beside the liberty building, left lane is for 1st exit and the right lane for 2nd and 3rd exit. Kind of defeats the purpose of showing them adds telling you what is the correct way to pass through a roundabout

That's where the phrase "Unless roadmarkings indicate otherwise" comes in.
But having said that, 99% of the time when someone uses the wrong lane in a roundabout, it's not because they don't know, it's because the correct lane has a long queue of cars in it and the lane for turning off somewhere else is empty.
So you get yourself into the empty lane and boot it past everyone else, whilst giving the finger.
I'm still waiting for a big payout if some arsehole decides to play chicken for an exit with me, because I'm not budging. And then I'll jump about and writhe on the floor in pain, ouch my neck, quick, give me E20k!:p
So far the other guy has always decided to flinch first and then follow me beeping, flashing and waving fists at me. One even took a picture of me, whilst driving, shocking!
So the problem is not just education, it's lack of manners, respect and enforcement.

BMJD · 13-04-2013 04:23PM

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

That's where the phrase "Unless roadmarkings indicate otherwise" comes in.

The thing I hate about that is there is often just an arrow painted on the road which is useless when there is traffic sitting on top of it. Very few places seem to have an actual sign up indicating which lanes to use.

lau1247 · 13-04-2013 06:21PM

Nissan doctor wrote: »

What goes through people tiny little minds when they are driving?

100kph, pulls in with about a meter at most between me and them so I brake gently(as its a motorway), then they start braking because they never saw the slower car in the lane ahead so I have to overtake them again as we are now down to less then 70kph with traffic closing behind.

You'd wonder how far down the list of things they are concentrating on is driving?:rolleyes:

i see this often enough.. my interpretation is as follows:

Straight forward really.. the car that got in front of you was trying to overtake you but probably at the speed limit or slightly higher but not too much higher.. he saw a faster approaching car from behind so he turn in straight after overtaking.. he may try to get back out to overtaking lane but when checking mirror, saw another really fast approaching car.. going back to overtaking lane is putting himself in danger as he is not fast enough to have the same speed differential as the approaching car from overtaking lane.. now he has a slower car in front of him which he need to be vary of so he slows down to allow some gap between the car in front..

he probably should have carry on a little bit more in the overtaking lane before turning in but other people may be quick to call it 'lane hogger'

Can't really win, can it?

BohsCeltic · 13-04-2013 06:26PM

BMJD wrote: »

The thing I hate about that is there is often just an arrow painted on the road which is useless when there is traffic sitting on top of it. Very few places seem to have an actual sign up indicating which lanes to use.

Nail on the head, how are you supposed to know when there's cars covering the road, its stupidity.
The same goes for arrows pointing straight then with about 10 yards to go it says right only

13-04-2013 07:05PM

BohsCeltic wrote: »

Nail on the head, how are you supposed to know when there's cars covering the road, its stupidity.
The same goes for arrows pointing straight then with about 10 yards to go it says right only

It the same coming out of the Blanch SC, header towards Blakestown.

http://goo.gl/maps/mmVoz

Both lanes have arrows on the ground saying both can go straight, but whenever I go straight in the right lane, people always give out because they think I'm in the wrong.

Tea drinker · 13-04-2013 09:40PM

Nissan doctor wrote: »

What goes through people tiny little minds when they are driving?

100kph, pulls in with about a meter at most between me and them so I brake gently(as its a motorway), then they start braking because they never saw the slower car in the lane ahead so I have to overtake them again as we are now down to less then 70kph with traffic closing behind.

You'd wonder how far down the list of things they are concentrating on is driving?:rolleyes:

Lot of guys on boards swear this is correct use of the overtaking lane. If you aren't swerving in and out of it like a F1 grid warming the tyres behind the safety car, you are doing it wrong.

I'm with you man, "slow" well signalled and planned manoeuvers are the right thing when travelling at speed.

last week on N4 a few guys speeding all **** themselves when a squad with flashies showed up behind them at speed, they all bailed into the "slow" lane and hit the anchors to about 80 km/h , causing mayhem for cars behind. Usual superhero "I'm on gods work" type nonsense moves.

h3000 · 13-04-2013 09:52PM

Tea drinker wrote: »

Lot of guys on boards swear this is correct use of the overtaking lane. If you aren't swerving in and out of it like a F1 grid warming the tyres behind the safety car, you are doing it wrong.

I'm with you man, "slow" well signalled and planned manoeuvers are the right thing when travelling at speed.

last week on N4 a few guys speeding all **** themselves when a squad with flashies showed up behind them at speed, they all bailed into the "slow" lane and hit the anchors to about 80 km/h , causing mayhem for cars behind. Usual superhero "I'm on gods work" type nonsense moves.

I haven't heard one person suggesting swerving between the driving lane and overtaking lanes on boards. What has been stated here is the correct use of the lanes ie: stay left unless overtaking.

dr.fuzzenstein · 13-04-2013 09:59PM

BMJD wrote: »

The thing I hate about that is there is often just an arrow painted on the road which is useless when there is traffic sitting on top of it. Very few places seem to have an actual sign up indicating which lanes to use.

That, unfortunately, is very true.

15-04-2013 12:12AM

Deleted User wrote: »

It the same coming out of the Blanch SC, header towards Blakestown.

http://goo.gl/maps/mmVoz

Both lanes have arrows on the ground saying both can go straight, but whenever I go straight in the right lane, people always give out because they think I'm in the wrong.

That type of arrow is not to indicate what lane you should be in for exiting the roundabout.

That arrow means a single lane is spit into two lanes. From looking at Google Maps, that roundabout has no indicate of what lane you should be in...I would use the right lane for straight on also, since it is just past 12 o'clock position

Syllabus · 15-04-2013 12:27AM

smilgy wrote: »

Its just my phone in a phone holder with a dashcam app.

which one?

vibe666 · 15-04-2013 09:35AM

ironclaw wrote: »

Can you quote an official source for that rule?

I already did in my previous post, but if an official response to the previous roundabouts thread from the communications manager at the RSA isn't enough to convince you then I doubt anything anyone can say will be enough for you.

dutopia · 15-04-2013 11:25PM

Syllabus wrote: »

which one?

Witness for the iPhone is the best I've used. Got myself a Roadrunner HD1 now though so no more melting my phone's battery.

joujoujou · 16-04-2013 01:10PM

Woman who hates indicators.

I'd take that, but for God's sake, mirror is not only located in bathroom! :eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB2l-cZxrvQ

dutopia · 16-04-2013 01:42PM

joujoujou wrote: »

Woman who hates indicators.

I'd take that, but for God's sake, mirror is not only located in bathroom! :eek:

I've had woman and believe it or not - men do this as well.

16-04-2013 02:09PM

dutopia wrote: »

I've had woman and believe it or not - men do this as well.

Yep. Was a older man driving in this Civic.

Got this on Sunday morning. If I had being going faster, he more than likely would have hit me. Senseless driving!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y_Kj2Oxl_c

Kenny Logins · 16-04-2013 03:46PM

We don't have a clue how to use roundabouts in this country.

cats.life · 16-04-2013 04:27PM

never mind about using mirrors, he was all over the shop.
whats INDICATORS?

BohsCeltic · 16-04-2013 08:15PM

Just started using the witness iPhone app, will be getting a proper dash cam soon but this will do for the time being.

Two things to note in this video, jeep not using lanes and cutting me off and a porsche speeding up the bus lane

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szCVCgLGJZE

kyote00 · 16-04-2013 09:04PM

Had to see the lane markings in the video, but was the Civic not in the correct lane for going straight through the roundabout ? You tried to overtake him ?

Deleted User wrote: »

Yep. Was a older man driving in this Civic.

Got this on Sunday morning. If I had being going faster, he more than likely would have hit me. Senseless driving!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y_Kj2Oxl_c

BohsCeltic · 16-04-2013 09:07PM

kyote00 wrote: »

Had to see the lane markings in the video, but was the Civic not in the correct lane for going straight through the roundabout ? You tried to overtake him ?

I know that roundabout, it has two lanes, the civic should have kept to the left lane but just treated the road as a sing lane, much the same as my video execept i was on the opposite side

Fanny Biscuit · 16-04-2013 09:10PM

The civic was in the outside lane and cut across once he was on the roundabout. Civic was in the wrong IMO.

kyote00 · 16-04-2013 09:11PM

Ok, but then so should the car with the camera have been in the left lane ?
If Civic had stayed in left lane, what does camera car do, pass him on the roundabout ?

BohsCeltic wrote: »

I know that roundabout, it has two lanes, the civic should have kept to the left lane but just treated the road as a sing lane, much the same as my video execept i was on the opposite side

kyote00 · 16-04-2013 09:13PM

I think the ROTR say you should be in the left lane when going straight thro' a roundabout

Civic definately moves across but looks to me both drivers in the wrong

Fanny Biscuit wrote: »

The civic was in the outside lane and cut across once he was on the roundabout. Civic was in the wrong IMO.

16-04-2013 09:14PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Yep. Was a older man driving in this Civic.

Got this on Sunday morning. If I had being going faster, he more than likely would have hit me. Senseless driving!

Along with tailgating, this carry on drives me cracked on the roads.

tk123 · 16-04-2013 09:25PM

He didn't save my ass but I think my cam shared my frustration this morning lol :rolleyes: (A truck had kindly stopped to my right leaving the junction wide open to let traffic clear ... or so he thought!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0TrqVz7tHc

kyote00 · 16-04-2013 10:07PM

http://www.rotr.ie/rules-for-driving/junctions-roundabouts/roundabouts.html

00833827 wrote: »

Along with tailgating, this carry on drives me cracked on the roads.

Taylor365 · 16-04-2013 10:12PM

kyote00 wrote: »

I think the ROTR say you should be in the left lane when going straight thro' a roundabout

Civic definitely moves across but looks to me both drivers in the wrong

You can go straight through a roundabout in both lanes.

Left lane: First exit(or before) and straight through.

Right lane: straight through and third exit(or more).

Quite simple.

Bazzo · 16-04-2013 10:27PM

Taylor365 wrote: »

You can go straight through a roundabout in both lanes.

Left lane: First exit(or before) and straight through.

Right lane: straight through and third exit(or more).

Quite simple.

Don't mean to be pedantic but I'm fairly sure that you're only supposed to take the right lane for straight through if it's marked that way on the roundabout.

I understand what you mean, at this particular roundabout there are 2 exit lanes so in practice you can take either the left or right lane to exit straight through as long as everybody is behaving themselves.

Here's the RSA's view on it:

Supergurrier · 16-04-2013 10:29PM

Way i have always looked at it left lane is for left turn and anything up to and including straight on and right lane is everything else.

Obviously this depends on how many exits

BohsCeltic · 16-04-2013 10:35PM

Bazzo wrote: »

Don't mean to be pedantic but I'm fairly sure that you're only supposed to take the right lane for straight through if it's marked that way on the roundabout.

I understand what you mean, at this particular roundabout there are 2 exit lanes so in practice you can take either the left or right lane to exit straight through as long as everybody is behaving themselves.

Here's the RSA's view on it:

That's my usual take on things but a lot of roundabouts have lanes on them which eventually filter into one lane, its just that people never seem to pay attention to road markings

Dash cam saves your ass (no Roundabout stuff please :)

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