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Clermont vs Munster buildup thread **read post one

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  • #152
    duckysauce
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,930 ✭✭✭duckysauce


    Munster by more than 10
    Podge_irl wrote: »
    While I appreciate his mental toughness (and I genuinely do, its absolutely top class) it also boils down to not making mistakes. Clermont will thrive on both missed (or poor) tackles and any wayward kicks. It also takes some invention to break down their defence and I'm not sure kicks to the corner and kick and chase will do the job.

    Brock v Leinster is a classic case of the yips , wonder if they will return :). CA as good a team as they are, have very little silverware , and the team as a collective seem to get a case of big match nerves, will be an interesting match, as they will also not be in their own stadium.


  • #153
    phog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,202 ✭✭✭✭phog


    We've won 4 away Q/finals and 3 away S/finals, not a bad record in the H?cup. This game will probably be the toughest task of all though. Toulouse in 2000 might have been similar ask. Here's hoping.


  • #154
    molloyjh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,773 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    Munster by 1-10
    duckysauce wrote: »
    Brock v Leinster is a classic case of the yips , wonder if they will return :). CA as good a team as they are, have very little silverware , and the team as a collective seem to get a case of big match nerves, will be an interesting match, as they will also not be in their own stadium.

    That simply isn't true anymore. A few years ago maybe. They were aiming for the HEC last season and we all saw how close they came to the final. I still get nervous watching the last few mins of that SF. In the last 2 years they've been knocked out by the champions. But they have been getting steadily better each year imo. Compare the team this year to the one in the RDS or even Landsdowne Rd in previous seasons. I really don't see them bottling it.


  • #155
    Rightwing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    Munster by more than 10
    phog wrote: »
    We've won 4 away Q/finals and 3 away S/finals, not a bad record in the H?cup. This game will probably be the toughest task of all though. Toulouse in 2000 might have been similar ask. Here's hoping.

    That's the best record of all.

    I remember Toulouse in 2000, that would be regarded as a far bigger upset than this 1. Back then NO team would win in France, let alone in Toulouse. They had thrashed us by 60 odd points only a few seasons before it. That turned out to be a watershed moment in the history of the tournament.


  • #156
    ssaye
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭ssaye


    Google translate, already up to 72 pages

    Difficult to fully read as the translation can be off but here you go in anyway


    http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?act=url&depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.cybervulcans.net/forum/topic/53585-demi-finale-hcup-asm-vs-munster-avant-match/&usg=ALkJrhju4yYbL10V0ctJgX1gwm0A5OTqjw


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  • #157
    Grimebox
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,997 ✭✭✭Grimebox


    Clermont by 1-10
    ssaye wrote: »
    Google translate, already up to 72 pages

    Difficult to fully read as the translation can be off but here you go in anyway


    http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?act=url&depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.cybervulcans.net/forum/topic/53585-demi-finale-hcup-asm-vs-munster-avant-match/&usg=ALkJrhju4yYbL10V0ctJgX1gwm0A5OTqjw

    A translation of an internet forum :eek: Google's translator isn't even perfect with impeccable grammar. Only the most sadistic need apply


  • #158
    Teferi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,320 ✭✭✭Teferi


    ssaye wrote: »
    Google translate, already up to 72 pages

    Difficult to fully read as the translation can be off but here you go in anyway


    http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?act=url&depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.cybervulcans.net/forum/topic/53585-demi-finale-hcup-asm-vs-munster-avant-match/&usg=ALkJrhju4yYbL10V0ctJgX1gwm0A5OTqjw

    Some very interesting comments and opinions there. Thanks :)


  • #159
    totallegend
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭totallegend


    Clermont by 1-10
    ssaye wrote: »
    Google translate, already up to 72 pages

    Difficult to fully read as the translation can be off but here you go in anyway


    http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?act=url&depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.cybervulcans.net/forum/topic/53585-demi-finale-hcup-asm-vs-munster-avant-match/&usg=ALkJrhju4yYbL10V0ctJgX1gwm0A5OTqjw

    Absolutely hilarious.


  • #160
    ssaye
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭ssaye


    totallegend wrote: »
    Absolutely hilarious.



    Posted April 7, 2013 - 15:52 Must violate.


    Posted April 7, 2013 - 16:24 I can not wait to know the opinion of bobfromcork.
    :-)


    Bahahahahaha


  • #161
    molloyjh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,773 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    Munster by 1-10
    ssaye wrote: »
    Google translate, already up to 72 pages

    Difficult to fully read as the translation can be off but here you go in anyway


    http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?act=url&depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.cybervulcans.net/forum/topic/53585-demi-finale-hcup-asm-vs-munster-avant-match/&usg=ALkJrhju4yYbL10V0ctJgX1gwm0A5OTqjw

    Tell me I'm not the only one who noticed the OPs avatar on that forum....


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  • #162
    who_me
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,669 ✭✭✭who_me


    Munster by more than 10
    "Without boasting, making playing field in the battle and conquest, I do not see how we will not pass this obstacle."

    "Nobody crossed the line in-goal and Clermont are rubbing their hands as they watched the game, they must say that they have the chance to play, Saturday, April 27, Montpellier, such an opponent, predictable, and not very sharp borrowed ball in hand."

    Oh yeah. Even in pidgin Googlish, that there's fighting talk!


  • #163
    ssaye
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭ssaye


    who_me wrote: »
    "Without boasting, making playing field in the battle and conquest, I do not see how we will not pass this obstacle."

    "Nobody crossed the line in-goal and Clermont are rubbing their hands as they watched the game, they must say that they have the chance to play, Saturday, April 27, Montpellier, such an opponent, predictable, and not very sharp borrowed ball in hand."

    Oh yeah. Even in pidgin Googlish, that there's fighting talk!


    Brilliant


  • #164
    Quint2010
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭Quint2010


    Clermont by 1-10
    ssaye wrote: »
    Google translate, already up to 72 pages

    Difficult to fully read as the translation can be off but here you go in anyway


    http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?act=url&depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.cybervulcans.net/forum/topic/53585-demi-finale-hcup-asm-vs-munster-avant-match/&usg=ALkJrhju4yYbL10V0ctJgX1gwm0A5OTqjw

    Small piles.:D

    Eh rucks or is that what The Munster team will be sh*ting when they see the Clermont pack?...


  • #165
    Lelantos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,612 ✭✭✭Lelantos


    Quint2010 wrote: »
    Small piles.:D

    Eh rucks or is that what The Munster team will be sh*ting when they see the Clermont pack?...

    Oh, I think once the Clermont backs see Paulie skipping towards them we'll see who'll be sh*ting piles ;)


  • #166
    danthefan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭danthefan


    Munster by 1-10
    Lelantos wrote: »
    Oh, I think once the Clermont backs see Paulie skipping towards them we'll see who'll be sh*ting piles ;)

    Honestly I doubt they're scared of Munster or anything close to that.


  • #167
    totallegend
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭totallegend


    Clermont by 1-10
    Quint2010 wrote: »
    Small piles.:D

    Eh rucks or is that what The Munster team will be sh*ting when they see the Clermont pack?...

    That cracked me up. Google not even close.

    I think that should be; ""We know well that we need to take our scores because in a game of small margins, they are very strong"


  • #168
    tomdkeating
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 ✭tomdkeating


    Munster by more than 10
    Munster shouldn't win based on their form this season and also based on the fact that Clermont are on fire at the moment. All that said, this is a knockout competition and if Munster can get stuck in early and sustain the same intensity they had against Quins then Clermont may start losing belief and buckle (but I doubt it!).

    Come on Munster (win or lose!)


  • #169
    Lelantos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,612 ✭✭✭Lelantos


    danthefan wrote: »
    Honestly I doubt they're scared of Munster or anything close to that.

    Whoosh! Look up Dan!


  • #170
    danthefan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭danthefan


    Munster by 1-10
    Lelantos wrote: »
    Whoosh! Look up Dan!

    Ahh.

    Where's that embarrassed smilie?


  • #171
    twinytwo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,612 ✭✭✭twinytwo


    Munster by more than 10
    danthefan wrote: »
    Honestly I doubt they're scared of Munster or anything close to that.

    Ya im sure Quinns were saying the same thing


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  • #172
    opinionatedfan
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,664 ✭✭✭opinionatedfan


    Clermont by 1-10
    twinytwo wrote: »
    Ya im sure Quinns were saying the same thing

    comparing Quins to Clermont :rolleyes:

    I suggest you go watch Clermont play



  • #173
    danthefan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭danthefan


    Munster by 1-10
    twinytwo wrote: »
    Ya im sure Quinns were saying the same thing

    Except Clermont are way better than Quins.


  • #174
    thomond2006
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    twinytwo wrote: »
    Ya im sure Quinns were saying the same thing

    I think 9 times out of 10 Clermont would beat Quins comfortably (in France).

    I'd say Clermont do fear Munster in the sense of their record/reputation but that doesn't really count for much in my book (Who cares about what happened in 2006 & 2008, the majority of that side are gone). IMO that's the only reason they would be concerned about Munster, as I said in a previous post only POC, POM and Zebo would get into their starting lineup IMO.

    The battle in the second row is going to be something else. Hines, Cudmore, POC and Ryan. We need to dominate in the lineout and hold out in the scrums to give us any platform, because in general play Munster are considerably inferior. Clermont have serious ball carriers to come off the bench, like Paulo, Debaty (who knocked out BOD in the 6N) and Vermeulen.

    There has been a sense of inevitably this season since Clermont beat Leinster in the Aviva. This is their year.


  • #175
    twinytwo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,612 ✭✭✭twinytwo


    Munster by more than 10
    opinionatedfan wrote: »
    comparing Quins to Clermont :rolleyes:

    I suggest you go watch Clermont play



    Where did i make any comparison between the two about how they play?:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


  • #176
    Micky Dolenz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Munster by more than 10
    opinionatedfan wrote: »
    comparing Quins to Clermont :rolleyes:

    I suggest you go watch Clermont play

    Pfft, They only won that game by something like 30 pts.


  • #177
    Rightwing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    Munster by more than 10
    thomond2006 wrote: »
    I think 9 times out of 10 Clermont would beat Quins comfortably.

    I'd say Clermont do fear Munster in the sense of their record/reputation but that doesn't really count for much in my book (Who cares about what happened in 2006 & 2008, the majority of that side are gone). IMO that's the only reason they would be concerned about Munster, as I said in a previous post only POC, POM and Zebo would get into their starting lineup IMO.

    The battle in the second row is going to be something else. Hines, Cudmore, POC and Ryan. We need to dominate in the lineout and hold out in the scrums to give us any platform, because in general play Munster are considerably inferior. Clermont have serious ball carriers to come off the bench, like Paulo, Debaty (who knocked out BOD in the 6N) and Vermeulen.

    There has been a sense of inevitably this season since Clermont beat Leinster in the Aviva. This is their year.

    I wouldn't. Quins are English champs and were top seeds. They are not the pushover many on here want us to believe.


  • #178
    thomond2006
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Rightwing wrote: »
    I wouldn't. Quins are English champs and were top seeds. They are not the pushover many on here want us to believe.

    I should have added "in France" there, sorry.


  • #179
    jamiedav2011
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,906 ✭✭✭jamiedav2011


    thomond2006 wrote: »
    I think 9 times out of 10 Clermont would beat Quins comfortably.

    I'd say Clermont do fear Munster in the sense of their record/reputation but that doesn't really count for much in my book (Who cares about what happened in 2006 & 2008, the majority of that side are gone). IMO that's the only reason they would be concerned about Munster, as I said in a previous post only POC, POM and Zebo would get into their starting lineup IMO.

    The battle in the second row is going to be something else. Hines, Cudmore, POC and Ryan. We need to dominate in the lineout and hold out in the scrums to give us any platform, because in general play Munster are considerably inferior. Clermont have serious ball carriers to come off the bench, like Paulo, Debaty (who knocked out BOD in the 6N) and Vermeulen.

    There has been a sense of inevitably this season since Clermont beat Leinster in the Aviva. This is their year.

    The scrum battle will be absolutely vital. Botha and Kilcoyne will have their work cut out.

    You'd have to hope Ryan is fit and firing too, what will the bench option be if DOC is out? Holland?

    Clermont are both a well coached, structured team (which Quins could conceivably claim to be), but also have 20-25 top quality, hefty players at their disposal (which Quins certainly don't). It's another step up completely.


  • #180
    Rightwing
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    Munster by more than 10
    thomond2006 wrote: »
    I should have added "in France" there, sorry.

    What's comfortably? I'd favour Quins +10 to beat Clermont in Montpellier.

    If you look at Clermont over the last 2 seasons, they are almost as good away from home as at home, the got the double over Leinster this year, and sort of demolished Saracens away in last year's q/final.


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  • #181
    thomond2006
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Rightwing wrote: »
    What's comfortably? I'd favour Quins +10 to beat Clermont in Montpellier.

    If you look at Clermont over the last 2 seasons, they are almost as good away from home as at home, the got the double over Leinster this year, and sort of demolished Saracens away in last year's q/final.

    Comfortably is 10-15 points in my mind.


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