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What I don't get about PC and so called offesive posts

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  • #62
    Ranicand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Ranicand


    Legs.Eleven wrote: »
    OP remember that time that guy started the thread asking people who they felt about single people and you bit his head off about judging single people without talking every individual's story? Well that's pretty much how I feel when sweeping generalisations are made about other groups of people without knowing their story or getting facts wrong.


    I don't agree with how you worded your post or the aggressive tone it was written in but I did agree with the essence of your post. We have no right to judge others without knowing their story.

    I was the first to admit I made a mess of that post I still agree with what I posted but not the tone of how I posted it.

    I sent a PM to that poster saying sorry.


  • #63
    laoch na mona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭laoch na mona


    WayneMolloy wrote: »
    Case in point.

    Jews are being attacked and run out of parts of Europe by recently arrived muslims and I am a nazi for bringing it up.


    I was saying that plenty muslims were born in Europe so they are Europeans or can only white be Europeans?

    and what about balkan muslims are they not Europeans


  • #64
    Legs.Eleven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    Ranicand wrote: »
    I was the first to admit I made a mess of that post I still agree with what I posted but not the tone of how I posted it.

    I sent a PM to that poster saying sorry.

    As I said, I agreed with the essence of your post. Some people judge single people as losers and some people presume all Muslims have their wives chained to the sink. To not judge others and make sweeping generalisations without knowing their full story. It'd be a nicer world if we did.


  • #65
    Ranicand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Ranicand


    Legs.Eleven wrote: »

    Edit: Just to say, I might be coming across very sanctimonious here and I do have my prejudices but they're something I accept as MY problem and I'd expect to be called out on them if I made them know.


    I am being 100% honest that is the bit that I find confusing.

    Either everybody is Fair game or we stick to rules on treating everybody as an individual.

    To be honest I would be happy either way but what we have at the moment is neither.


  • #66
    latenia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭latenia


    I think a lot of people with Aspergers are just douchebags-does that offend you?


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  • #67
    Ranicand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Ranicand


    latenia wrote: »
    I think a lot of people with Aspergers are just douchebags-does that offend you?

    Honestly no.


  • #68
    WayneMolloy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 713 ✭✭✭WayneMolloy


    Candie wrote: »
    Fair enough in that case, but in the case of halting sites, a large ground area is needed which is very expensive in the more exclusive suburbs.

    I'm not suggesting that that's the only obstacle, but it's one reason why it's not mooted in the first place.

    The same people that would openly slate a working class community for opposing a halting site, asylum centre, drug rehab clinic or whatever, fail to practice what they preach.

    The state owns an awful lot of land in Dublin 4 btw - ranging from hotels, large houses to parkland.

    No chance of it being used for any of the above. The locals simply wouldnt accept it.


  • #69
    Legs.Eleven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    Ranicand wrote: »
    I am being 100% honest that is the bit that I find confusing.

    Either everybody is Fair game or we stick to rules on treating everybody as an individual.

    Too be honest I would be happy either way but what we have at the moment is neither.


    Can you not see my point? In your eyes, single people aren't fair game because as you said yourself, many of them have good reasons for being single.


    You're saying all or nothing yet you pick and choose yourself. It's very hard to take what you said seriously when you don't live by your own words.


  • #70
    laoch na mona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭laoch na mona


    WayneMolloy wrote: »
    Bs. Why is it perfectly acceptable to slate Christianity but not Islam?

    I'll hapily slate both (not to much because bashing religion is no my thing)

    you are confusing bashing Islam with bashing Muslims

    Islam = religion
    Muslims = people

    hope this helps


  • #71
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    WayneMolloy wrote: »
    The same people that would openly slate a working class community for opposing a halting site, asylum centre, drug rehab clinic or whatever, fail to practice what they preach.

    The state owns an awful lot of land in Dublin 4 btw - ranging from hotels, large houses to parkland.

    No chance of it being used for any of the above. The locals simply wouldnt accept it.

    I don't think it's fair to say people from one area would slate another, people are individuals. Generalisations could apply either way, but its generally best to avoid them.

    My only point is that some land is more valuable than other land so it's use is more contentious for some purposes. I don't deny that nimbyism isn't a factor, but it's not the only one.


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  • #72
    Legs.Eleven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    WayneMolloy wrote: »
    The same people that would openly slate a working class community for opposing a halting site, asylum centre, drug rehab clinic or whatever, fail to practice what they preach.

    The state owns an awful lot of land in Dublin 4 btw - ranging from hotels, large houses to parkland.

    No chance of it being used for any of the above. The locals simply wouldnt accept it.


    Who slates them?


  • #73
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,539 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ranicand wrote: »
    I also remember Dublin Corporation wanted to build a number of homes on Howth the locals did not react too well.
    Howth has been under Fingal CoCo for a long time now.

    There are currently plans to build a load of apartments in Howth, some of which will be housing for settling travellers. And the objections to the building have been to do with the increase in traffic and flooding we can expect, with a few about them being an eyesore.


  • #74
    WayneMolloy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 713 ✭✭✭WayneMolloy


    Legs.Eleven wrote: »
    Who slates them?

    From Dublin 4?

    Off the top of my head - the residents against racism group were set up in Dublin 4 (but remarkably quiet when McDowell proposed an asylum centre there and the locals protested).

    The CEO of the largest immigrant quango in the state - a miss Denise Charlton. Her father was involved in the land dispute with Pat Kenny, a d4 resident.

    Not to mention the media commentators who reside in d4.


  • #75
    mikemac1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    WayneMolloy wrote: »
    The same people that would openly slate a working class community for opposing a halting site, asylum centre, drug rehab clinic or whatever, fail to practice what they preach.

    The state owns an awful lot of land in Dublin 4 btw - ranging from hotels, large houses to parkland.

    No chance of it being used for any of the above. The locals simply wouldnt accept it.

    Drug addiction clinics on Haddington Rd and in Irishtown both Dublin 4

    You are correct about McDowell and the asylum centre though


  • #76
    Ranicand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Ranicand


    Legs.Eleven wrote: »
    Can you not see my point? In your eyes, single people aren't fair game because as you said yourself, many of them have good reasons for being single.


    You're saying all or nothing yet you pick and choose yourself. It's very hard to take what you said seriously when you don't live by your own words.

    This is how I find communication difficult.

    On what level do I respond to you?

    Are you asking me a question or are you trying to make me look bad in-front of other board members?

    To answer the question anyway.

    I took offensive at the double standard of that thread being fine while much more innocent threads face outrage and the lock.

    It you don't fully understand my reply would you like me to clarify or would you like to quote me yet again saying you can't take me seriously?


  • #77
    Greentopia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,221 ✭✭✭Greentopia


    WayneMolloy wrote: »
    So people refuse to slate Islam, like they do Christianity, purely out of cowardice?

    I would say it's out of a healthy sense of self preservation. :pac:


  • #78
    Ranicand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Ranicand


    true-or-false wrote: »
    Howth has been under Fingal CoCo for a long time now.

    There are currently plans to build a load of apartments in Howth, some of which will be housing for settling travellers. And the objections to the building have been to do with the increase in traffic and flooding we can expect, with a few about them being an eyesore.

    Yes these traffic problems are a nightmare perhaps the department of transport should be consulted on this issue.:D:D


  • #79
    Legs.Eleven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    From Dublin 4?

    All of them?
    Off the top of my head - the residents against racism group were set up in Dublin 4 (but remarkably quiet when McDowell proposed an asylum centre there and the locals protested).


    Sounds like your suggesting that every single person in D4 joined that group. Perhaps those that protested weren't members of the residents against racism group? :confused:

    The CEO of the largest immigrant quango in the state - a miss Denise Charlton. Her father was involved in the land dispute with Pat Kenny, all d4 residents.

    Not to mention the media commentators who reside in d4.

    All D4 residents is not the same as All residents from D4.

    Your conveniently twisting facts to suit your agenda.


  • #80
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,539 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ranicand wrote: »
    Yes these traffic problems are a nightmare perhaps the department of transport should be consulted on this issue.:D:D

    I haven't the foggiest what your point is?


  • #81
    WayneMolloy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 713 ✭✭✭WayneMolloy


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    Drug addiction clinics on Haddington Rd and in Irishtown both Dublin 4

    You are correct about McDowell and the asylum centre though

    A quick google search proves that to be true. I walked by the one on haddington road everyday for four years - never noticed it before.

    Away with the fairies, me.


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  • #82
    Ranicand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Ranicand


    true-or-false wrote: »
    I haven't the foggiest what your point is?

    I believe you even if thousands wouldn't.


  • #83
    Legs.Eleven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    Ranicand wrote: »
    This is how I find communication difficult.
    On what level do I respond to you?

    You don't have to respond to me at all.
    Are you asking me a question or are you trying to make me look bad in-front of other board members?

    I'm asking you a question.



    I took offensive at the double standard of that thread being fine while much more innocent threads face outrage and the lock.

    ...and you also took offence that a single person could be judged without knowing their full story. And the original post on that thread, as far as I can remember, said nothing offensive about single people. It only asked what people thought of them - similar to me starting a thread on what people thought of Muslims. That wouldn't get shut down either.
    It you don't fully understand my reply would you like me to clarify or would you like to quote me yet again saying you can't take me seriously?

    I understand your reply perfectly.


  • #84
    WayneMolloy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 713 ✭✭✭WayneMolloy


    Legs.Eleven wrote: »
    All of them?




    Sounds like your suggesting that every single person in D4 joined that group. Perhaps those that protested weren't members of the residents against racism group? :confused:




    All D4 residents is not the same as All residents from D4.

    Your conveniently twisting facts to suit your agenda.

    And whats my agenda?

    Some of the biggest proponents of 'hug a immigrant or you are a big racist' live in an area that openly protested against, and repealled, a plan to open an asylum centre in their area.


  • #85
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,539 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ranicand wrote: »
    I believe you even if thousands wouldn't.

    Honestly, you're making no sense at all. The only thing coming through is paranoia.


  • #86
    Legs.Eleven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    The King of Moo wrote: »
    Saudi Arabia is a horrific backward country, with a savage interpretation of Islam applied to law.

    Sharia Law is barbaric.

    Many Islamist terrorist are nasty pieces of work, and I have no problem with Islamist terrorist leaders being killed, as they're religious fundamentalist maniacs who cause the deaths of both their followers and their "enemies" while cowardly staying out of the line of fire.

    Unfortunately I'm now going to get permanently banned for the above, by the PC do-gooder moderators.


    Hmmm this post should be reported and K of M should've been issued with a warning or a ban going by your logic, OP.


  • #87
    Legs.Eleven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    WayneMolloy wrote: »
    And whats my agenda?

    Some of the biggest proponents of 'hug a immigrant or you are a big racist' live in an area that openly protested against, and repealled, a plan to open an asylum centre in their area.

    Can you prove that those in that group protested?


  • #88
    WayneMolloy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 713 ✭✭✭WayneMolloy


    Legs.Eleven wrote: »
    Can you prove that those in that group protested?

    I never said they did - but they remained silent on the issue whilst being very vocal about other perceived accusations of racism. They were headed by an elderly woman with an English accent - any whiff of racism and she was on the airwaves or rte news. Except on that issue.

    Her name escapes me now.


  • #89
    shopaholic01
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    Ranicand wrote: »
    I believe you even if thousands wouldn't.
    I think they would, tbh.


  • #90
    Ranicand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Ranicand


    Legs.Eleven wrote: »
    Can you prove that those in that group protested?

    This is not a court its a chat forum.

    Posts you agree with do not require the same level of scrutiny I take it?

    Not having a go at you so chill just pointing something out.:)


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  • #91
    [Deleted User]
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    WayneMolloy wrote: »
    And whats my agenda?

    Some of the biggest proponents of 'hug a immigrant or you are a big racist' live in an area that openly protested against, and repealled, a plan to open an asylum centre in their area.


    The most important word in that post is 'Some'.

    'Some' people will object to anything, no matter where they live.


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