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DILEMMA: gay in the changing room

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    MurdyWurdy wrote: »
    If a lesbian was checking me out in a changing room I'd be flattered, tbh.

    Me too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Ranicand


    Here is something you really don't want in the changing room.




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,221 ✭✭✭NuckingFacker


    "Checking you out" is ok. It's the pointing and giggling that comes across as rude.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭holystungun9


    I'm appalled by some of these posts. Break these barriers down and smash those back doors in!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,694 ✭✭✭Royal Legend


    I was at a swimming pool years ago with mixed changing rooms and showers, obviously you kept your togs on taking a shower, but one Saturday afternoon, after taking my kids out of the pool, was in the communal shower and this woman, my guess in her 40's , pulled down the top of her bathing suit and started soaping her tits, right in front of me :eek: It appeared like she saw nothing wrong with it, luckily there were no kids showering at the time, that could have been awkward


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,642 ✭✭✭newport2


    In fairness, the only solution to have nobody checking out anyone else in changing rooms is

    - One room for straight men
    - One room for straight women
    - One room for every gay man, with the possible option of sharing it with a gay woman.
    - One room for every gay woman, with the possible option of sharing it with a gay man.

    You'd need quite a few rooms. I think the easier solution is just get changed quickly


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    Cue everyone chiming in that they wouldnt have a problem with it, people need to grow up etc.

    When in reality a majority of people would be freaked the f*ck out by it.

    This is so thick. This thread came up about a month or two ago.

    Gay guys don't behave the same as a straight guy would in a changing room because we're so used to changing rooms that we can separate between an erotic situation and not. Some lad's soft dick isn't an erotic thing. A straight guy would instantly think 'sex' if in a woman's changing room as it'd be a totally new experience and sexual to him. Not for us.

    I just want to get in and out of the showers quick and to go about my business. I don't get turned on because I'm nt thinking about sex because I'm so used to the environment as just a changing room, no big deal and nothing more to me.

    I find it odd that a gay guy would consider a rethink of changing rooms. I suspect insecurity on both ends if a gay man or straight man is unwilling to share a changing room.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭Cody Pomeray


    1ZRed wrote: »
    This is so thick. This thread came up about a month or two ago.

    Gay guys don't behave the same as a straight guy would in a changing room because we're so used to changing rooms that we can separate between an erotic situation and not.
    Lets go back to the example using women and straight men. Straight men can make also make the above mental separation around women - they are presumably no less capable of not drooling all over women getting changed. But:

    (a) some might be a bit more pervy, and
    (b) even if he is perfectly innocent, a woman doesn't know that. The very idea that he might be ogling her body can be enough to make many women uncomfortable.

    The above scenarios also apply to gay men and straight men imo. As a gay guy, I *do* notice naked guys in the changing room or showering, just as a straight man would notice a naked woman doing the same. I keep my eyes down and try to avoid it, but the noticing, that mental flash where you think "he's attractive" or "he's not"...it happens. Short of having a labotomy, I'm not sure how that mental flash can be prevented. And the fact it happens can be enough to make everyone uncomfortable.
    I find it odd that a gay guy would consider a rethink of changing rooms. I suspect insecurity on both ends if a gay man or straight man is unwilling to share a changing room.
    I'm not insecure about it. i would be perfectly comfortable and practical about this if I didn't think straight guys think about it too. I don;t know if they do, but if they're not comfortable then that makes me uncomfortable too. it's sometimes enough to make me hang back when someone I vaguely know is using the changing room.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,075 ✭✭✭Wattle


    I get naked in changing rooms regularly unashamedly and often. There could be gays there, straights or even kids and I'd be there soaping my balls. That's partly because I'm buffed and ripped. Big abs. F*ck off shoulders and biceps that could crack walnuts. I don't think people are checking me out in a gay way. Probably more in envy. Personally I don't care who sees my wang. It is a thing of beauty.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭HondaSami


    Wattle wrote: »
    I get naked in changing rooms regularly unashamedly and often. There could be gays there, straights or even kids and I'd be there soaping my balls. That's partly because I'm buffed and ripped. Big abs. F*ck off shoulders and biceps that could crack walnuts. I don't think people are checking me out in a gay way. Probably more in envy. Personally I don't care who sees my wang. It is a thing of beauty.

    Really? you have to pm me a pic. :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,043 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    What do other AHers think? With openly gay people on the loose in a gym or swimming pool near you, do changing rooms need a re-think?



    Sexuality is bound by it's context. I could see a girl on a night out showing off some cleavage and find this hot, but I could see the same girl topless on a beach with her family and I wouldn't find it hot. I would assume it's the same way a gay guy would view a male body in a dressing room.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭beks101


    I think men check men out and women check women out regardless of sexuality.

    Sometimes I've caught myself having a sneaky look in the changing rooms, sizing up the competition as it were. Some women are seriously fit, toned and hot, you can't help but look. Even if they're not, naked bodies are fascinating to pretty much everyone.

    Or maybe I'm just a giant pervert :confused:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 713 ✭✭✭WayneMolloy


    1ZRed wrote: »

    I find it odd that a gay guy would consider a rethink of changing rooms. I suspect insecurity on both ends if a gay man or straight man is unwilling to share a changing room.

    It has nothing to do with insecurity, or homophobia, or ignorance or whatever buzzword you want to throw around.

    Most men do not feel comfortable getting changed in front of homosexuals. Most women would feel uncomfortable getting changed in front of men. This does not make them anti male or insecure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,043 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    beks101 wrote: »
    I think men check men out and women check women out regardless of sexuality.

    Sometimes I've caught myself having a sneaky look in the changing rooms, sizing up the competition as it were. Some women are seriously fit, toned and hot, you can't help but look. Even if they're not, naked bodies are fascinating to pretty much everyone.

    Or maybe I'm just a giant pervert :confused:

    I think you sound wonderful


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 132 ✭✭WittyKitty1


    I'm female and straight.. I'd have no issue with lesbians being in the changing room and it wouldn't even cross my mind that they might be looking at me.

    What does bother me about female changing rooms is when women insist on walking around completely naked when there are clearly children in the changing area with their mothers... it's actually not that hard to wrap a towel around you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭Cody Pomeray


    beks101 wrote: »
    I think men check men out and women check women out regardless of sexuality.

    Sometimes I've caught myself having a sneaky look in the changing rooms, sizing up the competition as it were. Some women are seriously fit, toned and hot, you can't help but look. Even if they're not, naked bodies are fascinating to pretty much everyone.

    Or maybe I'm just a giant pervert :confused:
    I think you're right. We are not machines, we probably all notice naked people, maybe even judge other people's bodies in the gym.

    But put it this way. I have very little interest in seeing a woman naked, but I would feel uncomfortable about changing in the women's room because she doesn't know that, or she might think "is he checking me out?". Similarly I find my changing room about as sexual as a sheep eating a turnip, but it's uncomfortable for the same reason if the guys there don't know that.

    Short of broadcasting the fact that "this doesn't turn me on you know", (which for sure means the person saying it is turned on), I'm not sure there's any way of getting around that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 624 ✭✭✭Crasp


    I think individual cubicles are the gold standard. As a regular, I have no desire to see fellow gym users parading around bollock naked without even a whisper of modesty or shame. You're comfortable in your skin, we get it, now please kindly cover up for everyone else's sake.

    Ir shouldn't be a matter of straight or gay or whatever... I personally have no desire to see anyone naked in the changing rooms and I thus act accordingly by not swanning around.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    Cue everyone chiming in that they wouldnt have a problem with it, people need to grow up etc.

    When in reality a majority of people would be freaked the f*ck out by it.

    Who or where is this majority that you speak of? I'd say you're way off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    Crasp wrote: »
    I think individual cubicles are the gold standard. As a regular, I have no desire to see fellow gym users parading around bollock naked without even a whisper of modesty or shame. You're comfortable in your skin, we get it, now please kindly cover up for everyone else's sake.


    There have been individiual cubicles in an open plan unisex area in Leisureland in Galway for 20 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,236 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    newport2 wrote: »
    In fairness, the only solution to have nobody checking out anyone else in changing rooms is

    - One room for straight men
    - One room for straight women
    - One room for every gay man, with the possible option of sharing it with a gay woman.
    - One room for every gay woman, with the possible option of sharing it with a gay man.

    You'd need quite a few rooms. I think the easier solution is just get changed quickly

    What about bisexual people? and what about straight trans people and gay trans people?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,236 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    1ZRed wrote: »
    This is so thick. This thread came up about a month or two ago.

    Gay guys don't behave the same as a straight guy would in a changing room because we're so used to changing rooms that we can separate between an erotic situation and not. Some lad's soft dick isn't an erotic thing. A straight guy would instantly think 'sex' if in a woman's changing room as it'd be a totally new experience and sexual to him. Not for us.

    I just want to get in and out of the showers quick and to go about my business. I don't get turned on because I'm nt thinking about sex because I'm so used to the environment as just a changing room, no big deal and nothing more to me.

    I find it odd that a gay guy would consider a rethink of changing rooms. I suspect insecurity on both ends if a gay man or straight man is unwilling to share a changing room.

    THIS

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    and a changing room for exhibitionists who dont care who sees them nekkid , just as long as someone is looking


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    What about bisexual people? and what about straight trans people and gay trans people?

    And if I'm out walking with Brendan my bisexual boxer and decide to go for a dip, where do dogs go?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 713 ✭✭✭WayneMolloy


    kraggy wrote: »
    There have been individiual cubicles in an open plan unisex area in Leisureland in Galway for 20 years.

    You are ahead of the times. Ive never seen them here in Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,510 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    It wouldn't occur to me to check out girls in the changing rooms anywhere. I was in boarding school for years and tbh i rarely checked anyone out like that, if ever. I'm more worried about people looking at me! I'm much more likely to get flustered by the girl outside smiling at me or someone reading a book in a coffee shop ffs.

    I am enjoying how few women seem to have an issue with lesbians checking them out though. I guess we're just not thought of as 'predatory gays', eh? ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,236 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    kraggy wrote: »
    And if I'm out walking with Brendan my bisexual boxer and decide to go for a dip, where do dogs go?

    On the path - where else would you walk your dog!

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    On the path - where else would you walk your dog!

    Ha ha, touché like.


  • Posts: 375 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Okay, here's the real answer to your question:

    You're overthinking things waaaay too much.

    Use the gym like every other goddamn person uses the gym. Do your workout, go wash and change with everyone else. Don't be making an issue out of nothing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,075 ✭✭✭Wattle


    It has nothing to do with insecurity, or homophobia, or ignorance or whatever buzzword you want to throw around.

    Most men do not feel comfortable getting changed in front of homosexuals. Most women would feel uncomfortable getting changed in front of men. This does not make them anti male or insecure.

    Getting changed in front of homosexuals. Seriously what's the big deal? First of all they're unlikely to tell you that they're gay so how would you know? Secondly they're unlikely to try and seduce you in a busy changing room.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    You are ahead of the times. Ive never seen them here in Dublin.

    "Yeah man, it's this place we go swimming, it's too obscure, you wouldn't have heard of it".

    *crosses legs wearing skinny jeans


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