CHEMTRAILS

10-04-2013 01:13AM

Brown Bomber wrote: »

We are clearly not on the same page here.

I am postulating covert weapons testing by a skeleton staff on a relatively small geographic area with a single, specially designed plane which for all intents and purposes appears to be a regular commercial plane emitting regular-looking contrails. With this plane flying perhaps from military base A to military base B perhaps once a week for a 3 month period.

Also, a small number of scientists observing and analysing the results.

This is not what the chemtrail conspiracy theory presented here is.
If that was the case then you are saying that all of the claims of people seeing chemtrails are almost certainly false.

Further if you are suggesting that it was only this tiny operation, then how is it different to a similar tiny version of the shower theory?

And if it is only the odd few flights, how did people get wise to the plot?

--Kaiser-- · 10-04-2013 11:03AM

Brown Bomber wrote: »

If this was YET ANOTHER case of governments covertly using civilians as guinea pigs in bio-weapons trials exactly what evidence would you expect to find?

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Penn · 10-04-2013 11:20AM

--Kaiser-- wrote: »

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Don't make it personal. Discuss the topic, not another poster.

--Kaiser-- · 10-04-2013 12:42PM

Penn wrote: »

Don't make it personal. Discuss the topic, not another poster.

I don't think it was particularly personal but no matter, other posters have put my point in perhaps a better manner

surya · 21-05-2013 02:52PM

Spraying began again along the east coast today 21 May. Can' t understand the rationale for it this time, they have already created algae in Dublin's water supply causing water shortages in the wettest place on the planet, they have stopped the grass from growing and we have to spend 900 million importing fodder from France and we were just getting rid of the strange chest and throat infections caused by the Autumn 2012 spraying. I know somebody has a good conspiracy theory!

21-05-2013 03:02PM

surya wrote: »

Spraying began again along the east coast today 21 May. Can' t understand the rational for it this time, they have already created algae in Dublin's water supply causing water shortages in the wettest place on the planet, they have stopped the grass from growing and we have to spend 900 million importing fodder from France and we were just getting rid of the strange chest and throat infections caused by the Autumn 2012 spraying. I know somebody has a good conspiracy theory!

Could you explain how chemtrails are able to cause algae growth, impede grass growth and chest infections?
How do you know that any of these things are connected to chemtrails?
And how specifically do you know they they were spraying today beyond that it was a clearish day so you could see contrails?

charlemont · 21-05-2013 03:08PM

Glad I spotted this, Did anyone see all the trails over Cork about 1 o clock. I don't know much about this subject but what I say today seemed too odd, I'm used to spotting planes in the sky and using FlightRader24 but these trails seemed out of place today.

I actually got that chest infection in October and it didn't leave me till March I lost 2 stone and most of my muscles to it so I'm curious now to see it linked to these trails.

cml387 · 21-05-2013 03:14PM

charlemont wrote: »

Glad I spotted this, Did anyone see all the trails over Cork about 1 o clock. I don't know much about this subject but what I say today seemed too odd, I'm used to spotting planes in the sky and using FlightRader24 but these trails seemed out of place today.

I actually got that chest infection in October and it didn't leave me till March I lost 2 stone and most of my muscles to it so I'm curious now to see it linked to these trails.

Since they were in the sky, how could they be out of place?

charlemont · 21-05-2013 03:34PM

cml387 wrote: »

Since they were in the sky, how could they be out of place?

Typical spasticated Clonmel person's reply. Clearly you don't know what I'm on about..

Mod: User banned for this post

Maudi · 21-05-2013 03:53PM

cml387 wrote: »

Since they were in the sky, how could they be out of place?

I was on lunch at one and noticed these over bray(.21 may).grid like pattern that was totally out of place
.never paid much attention to em before..i kept an eye on them and noticed they spread out thinner and thinner ending up like thin lace..but never disappearing ...whats going on..?

leprechaunxwwwx · 21-05-2013 03:58PM

Yep, spotted them over Dublin ..... Contrails my ass, contrails dont take hours to dissipate, these did.

21-05-2013 04:31PM

leprechaunxwwwx wrote: »

Yep, spotted them over Dublin ..... Contrails my ass, contrails dont take hours to dissipate, these did.

How do you know that contrails don't take hours to dissipate, but chemtrails do.
A lot of the claims about chemtrails hinge on this assertion, but the only thing that seems to support it is that some one once said it on the internet.

leprechaunxwwwx · 21-05-2013 04:41PM

King Mob wrote: »

How do you know that contrails don't take hours to dissipate, but chemtrails do.
A lot of the claims about chemtrails hinge on this assertion, but the only thing that seems to support it is that some one once said it on the internet.

Because I see what I see and what I see is contrails taking hours to dissipate. Debunk that. I also learned a long time ago that human life on this planet is worthless to those in power. Debunk that too.

21-05-2013 04:47PM

leprechaunxwwwx wrote: »

Because I see what I see and what I see is contrails taking hours to dissipate. Debunk that. I also learned a long time ago that human life on this planet is worthless to those in power. Debunk that too.

Ok, so how do you know for a fact that normal contrails cannot possibly take hours to dissipate?
Why do you believe this is a fact?

I am pie · 21-05-2013 04:53PM

These contrails have a scientifically similar makeup to cirrus clouds.

Cirrus clouds can last for ___ .

Fill in the blanks champ.

leprechaunxwwwx · 21-05-2013 07:44PM

King Mob wrote: »

Ok, so how do you know for a fact that normal contrails cannot possibly take hours to dissipate?
Why do you believe this is a fact?

Historic observer. Head not buried in sand or Tv.

Penn · 21-05-2013 07:50PM

leprechaunxwwwx wrote: »

Because I see what I see and what I see is contrails taking hours to dissipate. Debunk that. I also learned a long time ago that human life on this planet is worthless to those in power. Debunk that too.

leprechaunxwwwx wrote: »

Historic observer. Head not buried in sand or Tv.

Calm it down. People are allowed to question conspiracy theories and offer counter arguments. Any more posts with an antagonistic tone like the above will result in mod action.

I am pie wrote: »

These contrails have a scientifically similar makeup to cirrus clouds.

Cirrus clouds can last for ___ .

Fill in the blanks champ.

Same goes to you. Being needlessly condescending will result in mod action too.

21-05-2013 10:39PM

leprechaunxwwwx wrote: »

Historic observer. Head not buried in sand or Tv.

This does not answer my question.

Have you always watched very single contrail in a verity of conditions over several hours and never once saw them persist?
How do you know that what you call chemtrails are not just contrails persisting for a long time?

Your logic seems very circular: you know that you are observing chemtrails because they persist, and you know that contrails don't persist because you've never seen one do so...

Jumboman · 21-05-2013 11:39PM

leprechaunxwwwx wrote: »

Yep, spotted them over Dublin ..... Contrails my ass, contrails dont take hours to dissipate, these did.

I also saw what looked like chemtrails today in Dublin city centre.

I wonder whos doing it ?

BloodBath · 22-05-2013 01:07AM

charlemont wrote: »

Glad I spotted this, Did anyone see all the trails over Cork about 1 o clock. I don't know much about this subject but what I say today seemed too odd, I'm used to spotting planes in the sky and using FlightRader24 but these trails seemed out of place today.

I actually got that chest infection in October and it didn't leave me till March I lost 2 stone and most of my muscles to it so I'm curious now to see it linked to these trails.

You should probably go see a doctor about this. That's far from normal and could be an indication of lung cancer. I'm not joking.

I am pie · 22-05-2013 12:02PM

Jumboman wrote: »

I also saw what looked like chemtrails today in Dublin city centre.

I wonder whos doing it ?

Planes + meteorological conditions.

Seriously, these contrails you are seeing can have similar structure as cirrus clouds which also persist in the sky for a long time. For the life of me I cannot understand why that is not an accepted answer for some folks on here. Water vapor freezes in a particular manner involving a naturally occurring phenomenon knowns as ice nuclei (google it!) , it is a perfectly normal and regular event.

If anyonewere spraying chemicals from the sky over Dublin it would be so widespread that collecting samples, having them analysed identified and published in the press would be fairly straightforward.

It hasn´t happened. It isn´t going to happen, simply put there is no story here other than some bog standard behaviour of water vapor at a temperature range of between -10 and -42 (common at altitude). It should be very self evident that there is an increased volume of air traffic over the last 20 yrs and therefore and increased volume of artificially produced cirrus cloud contrails.

cml387 · 22-05-2013 01:35PM

What amuses me is that the Great Lizard Conspiracy wait until the skies are clear to do their chemtrailing.
If they only did in when the skies were cloudy we would never know about their foul schemes.

Anynama141 · 26-05-2013 08:44PM

cml387 wrote: »

What amuses me is that the Great Lizard Conspiracy wait until the skies are clear to do their chemtrailing.
If they only did in when the skies were cloudy we would never know about their foul schemes.

Even if this were the only gaping hole in the theory, it would still be a fatal one. But there are plenty of other big holes - there has been discussion before about the massive operation on the ground that would be required to support the air operation, and yet there's no sign of it at all, or of the hundreds of thousands of employees who would need to be in the know.

Allan Blandford · 29-05-2013 02:46PM

Anynama141 wrote: »

there has been discussion before about the massive operation on the ground that would be required to support the air operation,

There probably is a massive operation on the ground, but not on this planet.
Maybe the chemtrailing is preparation prior to the invasion .

Anynama141 · 29-05-2013 03:35PM

Allan Blandford wrote: »

There probably is a massive operation on the ground, but not on this planet.
Maybe the chemtrailing is preparation prior to the invasion .

Maybe it is - but is there any evidence for this position? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, as someone much smarter than me once said. To make a claim like this, you'd need pretty solid evidence support it.

Allan Blandford · 29-05-2013 08:25PM

Anynama141 wrote: »

Maybe it is - but is there any evidence for this position? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, as someone much smarter than me once said. To make a claim like this, you'd need pretty solid evidence support it.

Underground cities have being built, there is reportedly one under denver international airport. There is a seed vault.
They are preparing for something .
I think it could be an ET invasion.
The invaders could already be here preparing our planet to suit their species with the chemtrails and possibly they are behind genetically altering plants and animals and possibly humans.
Also there are photos of stuctures on the moon on the internet!

Penn · 29-05-2013 09:09PM

Lets try to keep this focused on Chemtrails please.

returnNull · 29-05-2013 09:11PM

opps only seen penns post after posting

Brown Bomber · 29-05-2013 10:19PM

Anyone want to debunk "chemtrails" once and for all by predicting the next lingering trails filling the skies?

Anynama141 · 29-05-2013 10:45PM

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Anyone want to debunk "chemtrails" once and for all by predicting the next lingering trails filling the skies?

Because it's possible to predict the next contrails that linger due to constantly changing local atmospheric conditions?

Surely it would be easier to prove the chemtrail conspiracy by:

a) demonstrating how it would be workable at all or
b) producing any evidence of the ground campaign that facilitates it?

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