The Hazards of Belief

SebBerkovich · 03-04-2013 02:17PM

ShooterSF wrote: »

You're talking about the same guy who punished people for eating from a tree of knowledge tbf.

Could he not just have made "The Turd of Knowledge" instead?
would have saved a lot of trouble for him...

Sarky · 03-04-2013 02:20PM

He could have built a castle on a 50 mile high mountain that shot down anyone trying to reach him while proclaiming his Plan, and performed daily miracles which he filmed and put on YouTube, and that would have saved a lot of trouble for everyone.

swampgas · 03-04-2013 08:35PM

Sarky wrote: »

He could have built a castle on a 50 mile high mountain that shot down anyone trying to reach him while proclaiming his Plan, and performed daily miracles which he filmed and put on YouTube, and that would have saved a lot of trouble for everyone.

... except John Waters would moan about God destroying the mysteries of creation, or something.

Sarky · 03-04-2013 11:36PM

He's just God, he's not a f*ckin' miracle worker.

endacl · 04-04-2013 05:30PM

I'm sure this must count as a 'Hazard of Belief'? That 'eye for an eye cr4p?

FFS?!?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22010122

PopePalpatine · 04-04-2013 07:02PM

endacl wrote: »

I'm sure this must count as a 'Hazard of Belief'? That 'eye for an eye cr4p?

FFS?!?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22010122

There's a thread on it in AH. Predictably, there's some in there hailing this as "justice".

recedite · 04-04-2013 08:56PM

a baby was abandoned in a wheelie bin before being rescued.The child’s mother had left a note saying the baby had “gone to a better place”.The child is now in foster care with a relative.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/baby-left-in-wheelie-bin-was-taken-into-care-29174486.html

Doctrine of the afterlife makes it easier to kill others, without losing sleep afterwards. Luckily this victim survived.

Nodin · 05-04-2013 05:07PM

Uganda is considering extraordinary measures against women's rights that would see women arrested for wearing miniskirts above the knee in public.
The proposed law would mark a return to the era of dictator Idi Amin, who banned short skirts by decree. It has met with a hostile reaction from many Ugandans and has spawned a Twitter hashtag, #SaveMiniSkirt.

The government-backed bill would also see many films and TV dramas banned and personal internet use closely monitored by officials.
Simon Lokodo, Uganda's ethics and integrity minister, defended the proposals. "It's outlawing any indecent dressing including miniskirts," he said on Friday. "Any attire which exposes intimate parts of the human body, especially areas that are of erotic function, are outlawed. Anything above the knee is outlawed. If a woman wears a miniskirt, we will arrest her."

Lokodo, a former Catholic priest, went on to suggest that victims of sexual violence have invited trouble because of the way they dress.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/05/uganda-ban-miniskirts-womens-right

Stupidity....is it the most prolific human trait...?

Hotblack Desiato · 05-04-2013 08:00PM

Simon Lokodo, Uganda's ethics and integrity minister, defended the proposals. "It's outlawing any indecent dressing including miniskirts," he said on Friday. "Any attire which exposes intimate parts of the human body, especially areas that are of erotic function, are outlawed. Anything above the knee is outlawed. If a woman wears a miniskirt, we will arrest her."

Lokodo, a former Catholic priest, went on to suggest that victims of sexual violence have invited trouble because of the way they dress.

And he'd probably have been able to remain true to his vows, too, if it hadn't been for those pesky kids women brazenly parading their bare knees about the place.

Won't someone think of the men desperately trying to deny themselves a normal, natural, sexuality?

Nodin · 05-04-2013 08:42PM

ninja900 wrote: »

And he'd probably have been able to remain true to his vows, too, if it hadn't been for those pesky kids women brazenly parading their bare knees about the place.

Won't someone think of the men desperately trying to deny themselves a normal, natural, sexuality?

especially areas that are of erotic function

Hmmmmmmm........

Definition of EROTIC
1
: of, devoted to, or tending to arouse sexual love or desire <erotic art>

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/erotic

I see the 1st christian burkha ahead.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partialism

Hotblack Desiato · 05-04-2013 09:35PM

Anything can be erotic if you're convinced it's verboten...

Kivaro · 07-04-2013 03:06PM

Two infants in the last three months in New York City's ultra-Orthodox Jewish community have been infected with herpes following a ritual circumcision.

One of the two infected babies developed a fever and lesion on its scrotum seven days after the circumcision, and tests for HSV-1 were positive, according to the health department.

The man who performs the ritual, known as the mohel, takes a mouthful of wine and then proceeds to orally suck the infant’s penis to cleanse the wound of any bacteria.

More here.

Nodin · 07-04-2013 08:02PM

One person has been killed in clashes outside Cairo's main cathedral following the funerals of four Coptic Christians killed in religious violence on Thursday.
Mourners leaving St Mark's Cathedral clashed with local residents.
Police fired tear gas to break up the violence. More than 60 people were injured, the state news agency said.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22058570

Hotblack Desiato · 08-04-2013 01:19AM

Kivaro wrote: »

The man who performs the ritual, known as the mohel, takes a mouthful of wine and then proceeds to orally suck the infant’s penis to cleanse the wound of any bacteria.

There's no holy book that can make that s**t right.

SebBerkovich · 08-04-2013 08:28AM

ninja900 wrote: »

There's no holy book that can make that s**t right.

It's holy books that caused acceptance of this insanity. Nothing makes it right, but with these books people are deluded into thinking it is.

robindch · 08-04-2013 09:52AM

Kivaro wrote: »

Two infants in the last three months in New York City's ultra-Orthodox Jewish community have been infected with herpes following a ritual circumcision.

On the plus side, the parents of the infected child declined to identify the nutter involved, so he can't be prosecuted. Neither did the parents sign the consent form that New York state mandated in January to prevent this kind of thing from happening:

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/second-n-y-jewish-infant-contracts-herpes-from-controversial-circumcision-rite-1.513545

kylith · 08-04-2013 11:12AM

Lokodo, a former Catholic priest, went on to suggest that victims of sexual violence have invited trouble because of the way they dress.

I'd be very interested to hear what he would blame for all the sexual assaults in Arabic countries then.

The problem is not clothing; it's the dehumanisation of women that absolves men of their responsibilities to not act like barbarians.

Cossax · 08-04-2013 10:16PM

Wasn't quite sure where to put this as it's slightly amusing, slightly interesting and also a somewhat odd approach.

The Three Christs of Yosilanti.

The Three Christs of Ypsilanti (1964) is a book-length psychiatric case study by Milton Rokeach, concerning his experiment on a group of three paranoid schizophrenic patients at Ypsilanti State Hospital[1] in Ypsilanti, Michigan. The book details the interactions of the three patients, Clyde Benson, Joseph Cassel, and Leon Gabor, who each believed himself to be Jesus Christ.

...

While initially the three patients quarreled over who was holier and reached the point of physical altercation, they eventually each explained away the other two as being mental patients in a hospital, or dead and being operated by machines.[2]

Gbear · 08-04-2013 10:51PM

robindch wrote: »

On the plus side, the parents of the infected child declined to identify the nutter involved, so he can't be prosecuted. Neither did the parents sign the consent form that New York state mandated in January to prevent this kind of thing from happening:

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/second-n-y-jewish-infant-contracts-herpes-from-controversial-circumcision-rite-1.513545

Surely there's a case for criminal negligence on their part then?

Allowing your baby to be fellated by some old fella is pretty clearly a case of child abuse.

endacl · 09-04-2013 12:05AM

Gbear wrote: »

Allowing your baby to be fellated by some old fella is pretty clearly a case of child abuse.

Too say nothing of the preceding genital mutilation. Adding insult to injury?

Kivaro · 09-04-2013 02:37AM

endacl wrote: »

Too say nothing of the preceding genital mutilation. Adding insult to injury?

Common sense goes out the window when it comes to religion.
I am so embarrassed by humanity some times.

Imagine trying to explain it to an Alien.

"Say what??" would be the response from a Betelgeusian.

joseph brand · 09-04-2013 10:37AM

Chalcedon Pastor: There is a place for slavery in godly cultures.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSBauI1ETX4

In a recently posted YouTube sermon, The pastor of Chalcedon Presbyterian Church, Dr. Joe Morecraft says in a Biblical society, the godly must own “the fool who despises God’s wisdom” because it’s the only way to keep those with a “slave mentality” from ruining other people’s families.
Based on Proverbs 11:29, Morecraft makes a case for Biblically justified enslavement of a man who does not “trust in Christ” since slavery is the only way to “keep a fool under wraps.”
The dominionist pastor interprets the Proverb to predict that in a Christian theocracy, an unbeliever will “lose his family, his property, and his freedom,” and “his energies, talents and life will not be used as he himself pleases, but in the service of wise people who work hard to benefit the community.”
“Put him in somebody’s service where they can watch over him and make him do right even though he doesn’t want to do it.”
According to Pastor Morecraft, the consequences of being a “foolish person who is unwilling to live by the Word of God” is to “become a slave of somebody who is godly and who is wise.”

endacl · 09-04-2013 04:48PM

Kivaro wrote: »

"Say what??" would be the response from a Betelgeusian.

In classical Betelgeusian, or vulgar? Sorry, I can be a bit pedantic as regards language!

PopePalpatine · 09-04-2013 06:10PM

I'd say so too if I managed to hear that from intelligent life that evolved around a red supergiant. :eek:

Brian Shanahan · 09-04-2013 10:07PM

endacl wrote: »

In classical Betelgeusian, or vulgar? Sorry, I can be a bit pedantic as regards language!

Methinks demotic.

Nodin · 10-04-2013 12:11AM

From Christians with Beards.....

Feminism is a "very dangerous" phenomenon that could lead to the destruction of Russia, the head of the Russian Orthodox Church has said.
"I consider this phenomenon called feminism very dangerous, because feminist organisations proclaim the pseudo-freedom of women, which, in the first place, must appear outside of marriage and outside of the family," said Patriarch Kirill, according to the Interfax news agency.

"Man has his gaze turned outward – he must work, make money – and woman must be focused inwards, where her children are, where her home is," Kirill said. "If this incredibly important function of women is destroyed then everything will be destroyed – the family and, if you wish, the motherland."
"It's not for nothing that we call Russia the motherland," he said

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/09/feminism-destroy-russia-patriarch-kirill

Nodin · 10-04-2013 01:00AM

A Catholic nun has pleaded guilty to stealing nearly $130,000 (£85,000) from rural churches in the US state of New York to fuel a casino gambling addiction, police have said.
Sister Mary Anne Rapp, 68, was arrested in November when the theft was uncovered during a routine audit.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22087338

They say the Bingo is an entry into the hard gamblin.

PopePalpatine · 10-04-2013 09:21AM

The money was just resting in her account. :pac:

Pherekydes · 10-04-2013 11:31AM

Nodin wrote: »

From Christians with Beards.....

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/09/feminism-destroy-russia-patriarch-kirill

Such an insult to every Russian woman who fought, died and worked to defeat the Nazis in the Great Patriotic war.

robindch · 10-04-2013 10:00PM

Nodin wrote: »

Patriarch Kirill [...]

Funny, I can't ever hear that guy's name without thinking of really, really expensive watches.

Here's a unique "Spot the Difference" for kremlinologists:

http://rt.com/news/patriarch-watch-photo-scandal-326/

The Hazards of Belief

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