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Maggie Thatcher death discussion thread - Mod rules in first post

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  • #212
    HondaSami
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭HondaSami


    0ph0rce0 wrote: »
    RTE now trying to make out she was a great woman.

    I honestly wish this country would stop licking everyone's hole.

    Its ****ing embarrassing.

    The woman was a scummy ****

    That is your opinion but it's not everyone's opinion of her.


  • #213
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,305 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Grandpa Hassan wrote: »
    Where does it say in there that she hated the Irish? By 'the Irish', I assumed you meant the Irish people.

    I don't think she hated the Irish, but as with the vast majority of British politicians, never understood Irish politics.

    In fairness, It is a conundrum. One thing you don't do is question hunger strikers.

    Republicans, Nationalists and the Irish Government just immediately take the other side, it even resonated world wide.

    Really whether it is wrong or right is irrelevant, it won the propoganda war, and Thatcher loved propaganda. A war fought on her own terms and she was annihilated.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #214
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    donfers wrote: »
    ...ah so what, she was a woman and she had a lot of balls, surely that's the most important thing


    That comes up a lot. Like 'something had to be done'.

    'The Baby is crying'
    'I'll look after it'
    'YOU SET THE BABY ON FIRE'
    'Don't hastle him - something had to be done and he had the balls to do it'.


  • #215
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    smurgen wrote: »
    just passed through Brixton on the bus there(i'm currently living in Streatham) and there was thousands outside the cinema in the main square banging drums,partying and waving giant banners with "the witch is dead" written on them.

    There will be thousands more in Brixton and the surrounding areas who are sitting in their homes and thinking the complete opposite of her.


  • #216
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,305 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Thrill wrote: »
    Some Front pages

    Sun
    https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/321375746427846657/photo/1

    Times
    https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/321376059696226305/photo/1

    Daily Mail
    https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/321372671420026883/photo/1

    Guardian
    https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/321371632516087808/photo/1

    Independent
    https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/321369855712432128/photo/1

    The Times
    https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/321364667970748417/photo/1

    Daily Mirror
    https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/321359371013591041/photo/1

    Daily Express
    https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/321353118287806466/photo/1

    Morning Star
    https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/321320540470140929/photo/1

    London Evening Standard
    https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/321280469364785152/photo/1

    Murdoch press bias?

    She actively courted Murdoch media.
    Shivers!

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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  • #217
    Stinicker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,098 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    donfers wrote: »
    ...ah so what, she was a woman and she had a lot of balls, surely that's the most important thing

    Adolf Hitler, Pol Pot and Augusto Pinochet achieved alot too, I guess that makes it alright then.


  • #218
    .jacksparrow.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭.jacksparrow.


    Maggie had to make tough decisions.

    So did Hitler.


  • #219
    Hilly Bill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,055 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    Stinicker wrote: »
    Adolf Hitler, Pol Pot and Augusto Pinochet achieved alot too, I guess that makes it alright then.

    Ye.


  • #220
    Hilly Bill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,055 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    .jacksparrow. wrote: »
    Maggie had to make tough decisions.

    So did Hitler.

    Hardly the same now is it.


  • #221
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Nodin wrote: »
    That comes up a lot. Like 'something had to be done'.

    'The Baby is crying'
    'I'll look after it'
    'YOU SET THE BABY ON FIRE'
    'Don't hastle him - something had to be done and he had the balls to do it'.

    I love this..


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  • #222
    extra gravy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,464 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    hare wrote: »
    87.......she lived 60 yrs more than she let bobby sands live.

    Most ridiculous comment I've seen all day and that's saying something.


  • #223
    true
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭true


    She offered Sands free food and he refused it. What an insult to all the starving people in the world at the time. Do not forget Sands and his comrades did not offer the choice of life or death to their victims. Say what you want about Mrs T, but she was greatly respected from Gorbachev to Reagon - now that was something.


  • #224
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    true wrote: »
    She offered Sands free food and he refused it. What an insult to all the starving people in the world at the time. Do not forget Sands and his comrades did not offer the choice of life or death to their victims. Say what you want about Mrs T, but she was greatly respected from Gorbachev to Reagon - now that was something.

    That wasn't very funny the first time you cranked it out.


  • #225
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,007 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    LincolnsBeard wrote: »
    Fascist tried to illegally occupy the Falkland Islands. Thatcher destroyed and demoralised the nation of Argentina.
    and thats good because? how much do the social wellfare dependants of the falklands contribute to britain? oh wait, nothing, well i suppose their is the possibility of oil deposits which is the only excuse to hold on to them, if she was any way right she would have up-rooted the people of the falklands to one of the channel islands, would be cheeper defense wise and the people could still be british, and still get payed for.
    LincolnsBeard wrote: »
    Northern Ireland and the Falkland Islands remain British thanks to her attitude of never surrendering.
    no, in the case of the falklands it was look, in the case of northern ireland it was a vote which was had on both sides after she left power.
    LincolnsBeard wrote: »
    Great leader.
    she was no great leader, she was an evil heartless woman who hated the working class and the poor, she wanted to clenze them from british society altogether, she is no loss.
    LincolnsBeard wrote: »
    She solidified the Falklands under British control.
    she shouldn't have bothered, its not as if the people there give anything back, they just take take take, yet the tories will give out about the phylpotts (which their right to)

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #226
    donfers
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭donfers


    I wonder how her supporters feel about the fact that of all those papers, the one that most closely resembles their views is the daily mail with their headline that she saved britain...surely that alone should hint at the fact that they might consider reviewing their analyses


  • #227
    annascott
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭annascott


    I lived in the south of England in the 80's, things were fantastic and we all had "loadsamoney..." she didn't do me any harm. Can't say that I agreed with all of her policies, but she made it clear that she would not be held to ransom by bullies. I admired her and (I know, it is against popular opinion) I am sorry that she has died. The world will be a less interesting place without her. RIP Mrs Thatcher.





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  • #228
    karma_
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,797 ✭✭✭karma_


    Nodin wrote: »
    That wasn't very funny the first time you cranked it out.

    Perhaps if he tries a third time it might work?

    Take it away true...


  • #229
    Claregirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Claregirl


    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    what exactly did this woman do? im not up on the whole english hating thing tbh

    It's not an English hating thing it's a Thatcher hating thing and in fairness she was hated by an awful lot of her own!

    http://local.stv.tv/glasgow/magazine/220646-margaret-thatchers-death-marked-with-party-in-george-square/

    I wouldn't celebrate her death but I certainly won't be mourning her passing like a lot of people who can still remember the 80's.


  • #230
    true
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭true


    Nodin wrote: »
    That wasn't very funny the first time you cranked it out.

    That is the first time I said that, and its a serious point, its not meant to be funny. Its not funny how you constantly go for the player.


  • #231
    narddog
    Site Banned Posts: 165 ✭✭narddog


    Whatever your opinion of MT, at least you knew where you stood with regard to her and her policies. She wasn't wishy washy, sitting on the fence. She took a position and never waivered. Similar to Reagan in the US, she has achieved a degree of iconic status and supposed achievement quite at odds with reality. I never hated her, nor do I celebrate her passing. I simply disagreed with a lot of what she stood for. All this celebratory behaviour at her passing reflects more on the people celebrating than the woman herself. I would personally have more loathing towards the likes of Haughey who were sneaky and unprincipled and quite content to enrich themselves as they drove the country into the abyss.


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  • #232
    Seachmall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Nodin wrote: »
    That comes up a lot. Like 'something had to be done'.

    'The Baby is crying'
    'I'll look after it'
    'YOU SET THE BABY ON FIRE'
    'Don't hastle him - something had to be done and he had the balls to do it'.

    I can't convey how much I love this post.


  • #233
    K-9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,305 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    true wrote: »
    She offered Sands free food and he refused it. What an insult to all the starving people in the world at the time. Do not forget Sands and his comrades did not offer the choice of life or death to their victims. Say what you want about Mrs T, but she was greatly respected from Gorbachev to Reagon - now that was something.

    She was a side figure to the Reagan Gorby talks.

    Overall she was an irrelevance, nice to have but totally meaningless, and irrelevant.

    The USA and USSR giving a nod to Churchill.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • #234
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    true wrote: »
    That is the first time I said that, ..........

    Don't. Seriously.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=84043725&postcount=497


  • #235
    true
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭true


    K-9 wrote: »
    She was a side figure to the Reagan Gorby talks.

    Overall she was an irrelevance, nice to have but totally meaningless, and irrelevant.

    The USA and USSR giving a nod to Churchill.

    I never mentioned the "Reagan Gorby talks". I said she was greatly respected from Gorbachev to Reagon. Gorby was on the TV tonight talking about his visits to London before he even was leader in Russia, and her influence on him. .... and Regan was taped talking about his best friend, Mrs T, and the extra-special close relationship between the UK and USA.


  • #236
    true
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭true


    Nodin wrote: »
    Don't. Seriously.
    I said "What an insult to all the starving people in the world at the time".


  • #237
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    end of the road wrote: »
    and thats good because? how much do the social wellfare dependants of the falklands contribute to britain? oh wait, nothing, well i suppose their is the possibility of oil deposits which is the only excuse to hold on to them, if she was any way right she would have up-rooted the people of the falklands to one of the channel islands, would be cheeper defense wise and the people could still be british, and still get payed for.

    no, in the case of the falklands it was look, in the case of northern ireland it was a vote which was had on both sides after she left power.

    she was no great leader, she was an evil heartless woman who hated the working class and the poor, she wanted to clenze them from british society altogether, she is no loss.

    she shouldn't have bothered, its not as if the people there give anything back, they just take take take, yet the tories will give out about the phylpotts (which their right to)

    There is a labour shortage in the Falklands.


  • #238
    .jacksparrow.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭.jacksparrow.


    Hilly Bill wrote: »
    Hardly the same now is it.


    I'm well aware of that,the point is just because someone makes a tough decision doesn't make it right or the person a hero for doing so.


  • #239
    true
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭true


    Grandpa Hassan wrote: »
    Just catching up on this thread and I have a question that someone could kindly answer.

    How is boards.ie full of threads abusing the Irish government for using public funds to bail out a failed banking industry, and yet this thread is full of people slagging Maggie for doing exactly the opposite and refusing to use public funds to prop up a failed mining industry.

    Make your mind up, like!!

    Excellent point.

    Even when Blair and labour took power in the UK they failed to do anything for the mining industry which the conservatives did not do when they were in power.


  • #240
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    .jacksparrow. wrote: »
    I'm well aware of that,the point is just because someone makes a tough decision doesn't make it right or the person a hero for doing so.

    If it is the right decision, which was taken despite the wrong decision being easier to take, then that is admirable, surely.


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  • #241
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    .jacksparrow. wrote: »
    I'm well aware of that,the point is just because someone makes a tough decision doesn't make it right or the person a hero for doing so.

    If it is the right decision, which was taken despite the wrong decision being easier to take, then that is admirable, surely.


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