Maggie Thatcher death discussion thread - Mod rules in first post

It would be nice if people put forward solid arguments pro/contra her policies, and not expressing delight over the death of a feeble old woman whose mind apparently had gone due to dementia.

Lapin wrote: »

We need someone with the balls Thatcher had to take on the unions in this country.

I'm not on about picking fights with Argentina or letting hunger strikers starve to death.

We need someone to stand up and crush the power of the unions like she did in the 80s.

Our spineless government are bringing this country to its knees by bending over backwards for the public service trade unions.

We need someone with Thatcher's clout to rip up the Croke Park Agreement and run the public services like a private industry.

The road to economic hell is paved with consensus. After 25 years of national agreements the political class does not know how to govern without help. It needs to get everyone on board to thrash out a plan that doesn't work but which everyone can say they adhere to and are seeking to fulfil. In Britain of the 70s it was Beer and Sandwiches, that was a stitch up. Things under Croke Park are no better.

what i cant understand is if she was so hated by the british people, how did she get three terms in office and basically ran britain for 21 years.

She wasn't hated by the British she was hated by some in Britain. As I mentioned in a previous post. If you were a working class person with ambition and drive (a barrow boy) or wanted to own your own home you voted Tory in 1979 and at least once, probably twice thereafter. If you were a coal/steel worker you might have voted the first time so angry were people with Labour in 79 but not thereafter.

The one thing I'll say is that people my age are commenting on this saying "thank fuk the old bitch is dead", yet never lived through her reign, and many dont know anything about her but are just piggy backing off of what other people are saying. It's so stupid.

I'll admit I know feck all about her, bar some things, but you won't see me saying anything for or against about her either.

trickymicky wrote: »

what i cant understand is if she was so hated by the british people, how did she get three terms in office and basically ran britain for 21 years.

now im no fan of thatcher and wont lose any sleep with her being dead, but can anyone answer this for me because i wouldnt be too educated in her policies but there must of been something that kept her in power for that long.

Thats because she was PM for 13 years, not 21! From 79 to 92 and in the last 2 to 3 years her own party tried to get her out but she 'wasn't for moving'.

Bertie Ahern was voted in three times, that doesn't mean that he was that popular either

Morag wrote: »

Let me see, she wanted homosexuality outlawed, the mentioning of homosexuality in any forum outlawed, she wanted to put all the AIDS/HIV patients in a concentration camp.

Poll Tax, ie household tax and if you didn't play it you lost your right to vote.
Privatisation of everything, rail roads, untility companies ect.

You're aware you can't just make up stuff and claim it to be fact?

For a start, she appointed an openly gay MP to her cabinet (Earl of Avon).

She was a conservative politician and like many conservatives felt the idea of homosexuality did not square up to the traditional view of marriage of that between man and woman.

Of course that's something most of us will disagree with but that's far from wanting it "outlawed" and the HIV concentration camp thing is pure nonsense.