Real Ale on Tap in Ireland on a Sunny Summer Sunday.

BaZmO* · 28-03-2013 4:44pm

Beernut, you're confusing the hell out of me!

BeerNut · 28-03-2013 4:49pm

BaZmO* wrote: »

Beernut, you're confusing the hell out of me!

Is there some reason you think it's impossible for The Palace to be serving Dungarvan beer from the cask?

Speak Now · 28-03-2013 4:55pm

Looking forward to trying it

BaZmO* · 28-03-2013 4:55pm

BeerNut wrote: »

Is there some reason you think it's impossible for The Palace to be serving Dungarvan beer from the cask?

No. Read back the conversation

BeerNut · 28-03-2013 4:58pm

I said: "There's usually a Dungarvan beer on draught in The Palace on Fleet Street, but they're all rotated so there's about a one in three chance of it being Helvick at any given time."

And your reply was:"Really? I thought they didn't do draught other than Cask?"

Which is a non-sequitur. What did I say that prompted your question?

Ravelleman · 28-03-2013 7:01pm

BeerNut wrote: »

I said: "There's usually a Dungarvan beer on draught in The Palace on Fleet Street, but they're all rotated so there's about a one in three chance of it being Helvick at any given time."

And your reply was:"Really? I thought they didn't do draught other than Cask?"

Which is a non-sequitur. What did I say that prompted your question?

I believe the distinction is meant to be between a draught beer - presumably using gas propellant - and a cask beer - using a hand pump.

If you accept this distinction, then you are speaking of a non-cask version of the beer, which doesn´t seem to exist.

BaZmO* · 28-03-2013 7:24pm

Ravelleman wrote: »

I believe the distinction is meant to be between a draught beer - presumably using gas propellant - and a cask beer - using a hand pump.

If you accept this distinction, then you are speaking of a non-cask version of the beer, which doesn´t seem to exist.

This!

And Beernut's comment about the new beer not being on sale, when my Twitter post showed it was.

It's been a long day!

Saruman · 29-03-2013 11:01am

Draft or draught is not the same as keg/cask.

Draught beer is anything that is stored in bulk and comes from a tap. Keg or cask makes no difference. I think it's one reason CAMRA coined the term "real ale", to differentiated cask ale to filtered/pasteurised kegged beer.

BeerNut · 29-03-2013 11:02am

Ravelleman wrote: »

I believe the distinction is meant to be between a draught beer - presumably using gas propellant - and a cask beer - using a hand pump.

If you accept this distinction, then you are speaking of a non-cask version of the beer, which doesn´t seem to exist.

Ahh. OK. No, I don't accept the distinction: cask is draught. In fact, since keg beer is propelled rather than drawn, it has less of a claim on the term "draught" than cask beer.

Sorry for the confusion. But once again: keg and cask* are both methods of dispense for draught beer.
*and polypin and tankova and keykeg and straight from the bright tanks...

BaZmO* · 29-03-2013 11:29am

Technically there may not be a difference, but the fact that everybody generally makes the distinction would suggest that there is. Not a big deal really, probably similar to the age old Stout/Porter debate in that all stouts are porters but not all porters are stout. So all tap beers are draught, but not all draught beers are cask.

You still confused me about the Dungarvan Beer though!

BeerNut · 29-03-2013 11:50am

BaZmO* wrote: »

the fact that everybody generally makes the distinction

Everybody doesn't make the distinction. I've only ever heard it from Irish people, mostly on this forum, and only in the last couple of years as cask beers have become a bit more commonplace.

According to the Dungarvan Brewing website:
"Our draught offering is cask ale"

According to the 2012 Cask Report [PDF, p.2]:
"cask has overtaken keg as the most popular draught format"

BaZmO* · 29-03-2013 12:41pm

I was talking about the Dungarvan beer being on sale.

Real Ale on Tap in Ireland on a Sunny Summer Sunday.

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