'Dog attack' girl found dead in Atherton house

26-03-2013 09:11PM #1

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-21321953

A 14-year-old girl has been found dead at a house where a number of dogs were "out of control".
Jade Anderson's body was discovered by police at a property in Atherton, near Wigan, at about 14:00 GMT after someone saw the girl unconscious in the house.
Police have not established the cause of death but said her injuries were "consistent with having been attacked by dogs". Four of the dogs were killed.
Jade did not live at the Chaucer Grove home and was thought to be visiting.

Poor girl, just visiting and got killed by the dogs, where was the owner?

Pumpkinseeds · 26-03-2013 09:16PM

Sweet jesus, what an awful way to die. Poor kid.

Fr_Dougal · 26-03-2013 09:52PM

Staffies and bull mastiffs...something strange with this one, those breeds are family dogs with great temperaments.

RIP

FoxyVixen · 26-03-2013 09:55PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Staffies and bull mastiffs...something strange with this one, those breeds are family dogs with great temperaments.

RIP

Not when in the wrong hands unfortunately. Most likely unsocialised animals with no training at all.

steddyeddy · 26-03-2013 09:56PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Staffies and bull mastiffs...something strange with this one, those breeds are family dogs with great temperaments.

RIP

Nothing strange at all about it.

Fox_In_Socks · 26-03-2013 09:59PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

Nothing strange at all about it.

There we go.

The dog fanciers will be on here now, giving out. Can you handle it, eddy? CAN YOU?:pac:

MagicMarker · 26-03-2013 10:00PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

Nothing strange at all about it.

Being killed by dogs a common occurrence is it?

arybvtcw0eolkf · 26-03-2013 10:03PM

Well regardless of the breed, dogs are pack animals and will attack as a pack.

Poor sweet heart, may she rest in peace.

1ZRed · 26-03-2013 10:06PM

Fukin hell!

Like a scene out of Django ffs! :eek:

Lapin · 26-03-2013 10:30PM

That poor girl joins a long list of many others who have met with a similar fate.

Early indications were two of the dogs put down were bull mastiffs and two may be Staffordshire bull terriers, officers said.

These breeds of dogs have absolutely use whatsoever apart from stroking the egos of their muppet owners.

I'm sick of hearing stories like this where innocent people are attacked and killed.

They should all be put down alongside a good proportion of their owners who treat them like toys.

No need for dogs like this at all to be kept as pets.

There are tamer animals kept in cages in the zoo.

Ella · 26-03-2013 10:32PM

Are those dogs not banned in the UK?

Poor girl

DrumSteve · 26-03-2013 11:06PM

Lapin wrote: »

That poor girl joins a long list of many others who have met with a similar fate.

Early indications were two of the dogs put down were bull mastiffs and two may be Staffordshire bull terriers, officers said.

These breeds of dogs have absolutely use whatsoever apart from stroking the egos of their muppet owners.

I'm sick of hearing stories like this where innocent people are attacked and killed.

They should all be put down alongside a good proportion of their owners who treat them like toys.

No need for dogs like this at all to be kept as pets.

There are tamer animals kept in cages in the zoo.

Slight overreaction there chief.

A dog is generally only as bad as its owner (any type of dog).

FoxyVixen · 26-03-2013 11:06PM

Pitbulls are illegal in he UK, not mastiffs or Staffies.

Hope the owners get held responsible for this.

ziggy23 · 26-03-2013 11:10PM

Poor girl. The owners need to be held responsible.

Logical_Bear · 26-03-2013 11:12PM

Lapin wrote: »

That poor girl joins a long list of many others who have met with a similar fate.

Early indications were two of the dogs put down were bull mastiffs and two may be Staffordshire bull terriers, officers said.

These breeds of dogs have absolutely use whatsoever apart from stroking the egos of their muppet owners.

I'm sick of hearing stories like this where innocent people are attacked and killed.

They should all be put down alongside a good proportion of their owners who treat them like toys.

No need for dogs like this at all to be kept as pets.

There are tamer animals kept in cages in the zoo.

lol

thats a very long post for a trolling effort I have to say

Dozen Wicked Words · 26-03-2013 11:15PM

DrumSteve wrote: »

Slight overreaction there chief.

A dog is generally only as bad as its owner (any type of dog).

The only problem being the dogs in question have the tools to do more harm than the average dog, and are more likely to be owned by morons.

26-03-2013 11:16PM

Ella wrote: »

Are those dogs not banned in the UK?

Poor girl

Pit bull terriers are banned but these breeds although similar are not.

Paddy Cow · 26-03-2013 11:19PM

What a horrendous way to die :eek: The poor girl must have been terrified

It's a strange story. She didn't live there and was visiting so where were the owners? If an adult left her there with five aggressive dogs then they have to take some responsibility. Normal dogs don't turn that aggressive in a short space of time.

DrumSteve · 26-03-2013 11:19PM

Dozen Wicked Words wrote: »

The only problem being the dogs in question have the tools to do more harm than the average dog, and are more likely to be owned by morons.

So we should wipe them out? I know a couple of people with both Staffies and Pitbulls and they are real nice dogs when raised correctly.

Dozen Wicked Words · 26-03-2013 11:24PM

DrumSteve wrote: »

So we should wipe them out? I know a couple of people with both Staffies and Pitbulls and they are real nice dogs when raised correctly.

I didn't say we should wipe them out did I, so no, we shouldn't wipe them out. I am saying the breeds have the musculature, strength and power to make them more dangerous than the average dog. So attacks by these dogs are more likely to result in more serious injury. Tighter controls are needed on more breeds. A poorly raised small dog is not going to be able to inflict the injuries on people and other animals that certain breeds can.

Cavehill Red · 26-03-2013 11:28PM

I've always wondered why, since dog owners insist that all manner of potentially dangerous breeds are only dangerous in the wrong ownership, isn't the law changed to consider dogs as offensive weapons?
In that case, the 'owner' of these dogs would be facing a murder charge.
If people were held responsible for the actions of the animals THEY choose to feed and keep, perhaps there'd be fewer 'irresponsible' owners of dangerous breeds.

Lapin · 26-03-2013 11:29PM

DrumSteve wrote: »

Slight overreaction there chief.

A dog is generally only as bad as its owner (any type of dog).

That simply isn't true. Some breeds of dog are inherently more hostile than others.

Its illegal to keep a pet cheetah unrestrained but not to keep a far more dangerous bullmastiff.
I've never heard a cat lover complaining about not being allowed to keep a cheetah.

Logical_Bear wrote: »

lol

thats a very long post for a trolling effort I have to say

No no, don't come here that cheap shít. I meant every word I said and I'd never make light of a situation where a young girl has just lost her life.

Sulla Felix · 26-03-2013 11:33PM

Dozen Wicked Words wrote: »

The only problem being the dogs in question have the tools to do more harm than the average dog, and are more likely to be owned by morons.

Not really. Give the stupid prick owner 5 labradors instead of 5 staffies and theirs every chance the same thing would have happened.

wolfpawnat · 26-03-2013 11:33PM

And the sensationalism strikes again, before it was Rotties, then German Shepards, for a while it was Boxers and now it is the turn of the Staffs and Mastiffs. ANY dog is vicious if not trained and controlled correctly, from the Chihuahua to the Great Dane.

On topic, poor girl. The people "in charge" of those dogs need to be taken out and savaged. What a terrifying last few minutes of life!

Dozen Wicked Words · 26-03-2013 11:38PM

wolfpawnat wrote: »

And the sensationalism strikes again, before it was Rotties, then German Shepards, for a while it was Boxers and now it is the turn of the Staffs and Mastiffs. ANY dog is vicious if not trained and controlled correctly, from the Chihuahua to the Great Dane.

On topic, poor girl. The people "in charge" of those dogs need to be taken out and savaged. What a terrifying last few minutes of life!

Its "their turn" because they have killed someone, if and when chihuahua or great dane kill I presume it will be "their turn". My point is that of course a dog if trained badly or mistreated can be vicious, but not all dogs have the same inherent power that the dogs in this attack have.

blacklilly · 26-03-2013 11:41PM

Such a sad story, rip to the young girl, truely horrendous.
As someone who has owned dogs all my life (typically non aggressive breeds) and lucky enough never to have had a bad experience with them, I am still very cautious when children in particular are around them. I've a Springer the last 10 year's, she's never showed any aggression towards a human but I never ever take a chance with her while my nephew or any child is around her. Even the most trust worthy dogs can become jealous in a spilt second. I'm not saying this is what has happened in this case but dog owners need to be more responsible and acknowledge the danger that can occur. All too often dog owners become too realiant on their perceived temperament of their dogs.

nocoverart · 26-03-2013 11:41PM

Staffs really aren't a bad dog once in the correct hands. I think the issue here is obviously a bad owner and the amount of dogs under one roof. Them dogs probably never seen the light of day. Tragic that a young girl is the victim of a mindless, negligent owner. Poor girl!

wolfpawnat · 26-03-2013 11:46PM

Dozen Wicked Words wrote: »

Its "their turn" because they have killed someone, if and when chihuahua or great dane kill I presume it will be "their turn". My point is that of course a dog if trained badly or mistreated can be vicious, but not all dogs have the same inherent power that the dogs in this attack have.

A staff is far smaller than a labrador and a retriever, they are the breed that had the nickname the Nanny Dog because of their fantastic temperament with children. Mastiffs are slower lumbering breeds, the biggest issue with them is them running into you. Blame those holding the lead, not those on the end of it!

And for those saying a lab/golden retriever will not kill http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/dog-killed-2-month-old-baby-ripped-child-legs-father-slept-room-police-article-1.1065711

and another
http://www.examiner.com/article/labrador-shot-and-killed-after-attacking-toddler-maine

and another
http://www.ibtimes.com/family-dog-kills-2-week-old-baby-309168#

sure lets add another
http://kgarcia1113.hubpages.com/hub/Labrador-Retriever-Mix-Dog-Kills-Baby

and one more for good measure
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/574589-black-labrador-bites-newborn-baby-to-death-in-bangkok/

yet these breeds are seen as an ideal family pet. Now I am not raging a war on the Labrador, but they seem just as likely to turn, but do not get the bad press to the same extent, or get the "Sure that's only one bad apple" when they do. Why not these breeds too.

Logical_Bear · 26-03-2013 11:51PM

Lapin wrote: »

That simply isn't true. Some breeds of dog are inherently more hostile than others.

Its illegal to keep a pet cheetah unrestrained but not to keep a far more dangerous bullmastiff.
I've never heard a cat lover complaining about not being allowed to keep a cheetah.

No no, don't come here that cheap shít. I meant every word I said and I'd never make light of a situation where a young girl has just lost her life.

its not cheap sh1t.You post clueless,knee jerk bolloxology that might get POTD on the daily mail forums and nowhere else.

What,if anything,do you know about staffordshire bull terriers?
My parents have had them as pets/bred them for over 40 years.There's been 3 generations of kids in the house and guess what?No maulings.none.nada.zip(running out of words here..) which is strange for an apparrently vicious breed of dog you and the other kneejerkers that pollute AH threads seem to think they are.

Cant comment on bull mastiffs,but the way dogs are raised and treated play a BIG part in the way they behave around people and other pets.

Even 'fighting dogs' like pitbulls and so-called ban dogs go through horrific training to fight..their bad traits are brought to the fore on purpose.Google it if ye can be bothered

Having said that some dogs are better 'family' pets than others.

Cupcake_Crisis · 26-03-2013 11:51PM

My heart goes out to that poor girl and her family, no doubt it was a horrific way to go. I wonder at what stage people will start questioning the owners and treatment of animals, and not the animals themselves.

garv123 · 26-03-2013 11:53PM

5 of most mid sized dogs would have done the same damage in this situation..

5 sheep dogs or springers could have easily knocked over the girl and attacked and killed her..

Blaming it on the dogs because they're a large breed is stupid.

Blame the owner..

RIP.

'Dog attack' girl found dead in Atherton house

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