Weed grown in Ireland is more potent than weed in Amsterdam!

ScumLord · 13-12-2011 04:30PM

mikom wrote: »

Awaits the usual bollox of "they will all be overrun with drug tourists"

I'm sure the countries that get cannabis drug tourists much prefer it to the alcohol drug tourists we get. Every city that has a reputation for drinking also has a problem with violence in my experience. Places famous for cannabis use just don't have that scene at all.

ScumLord · 13-12-2011 04:32PM

pretty-in-pink wrote: »

i have in on excellent autority that its feels far stronger here, as the thc has nothing to counter act it. So maybe its not technically stronger, but has a greater effect?

That doesn't make any sense. The seeds are coming from Amsterdam, they're the same plant.

El Weirdo · 13-12-2011 04:34PM

pretty-in-pink wrote: »

i have in on excellent autority that its feels far stronger here, as the thc has nothing to counter act it.

/thread

:pac:

ArseBook · 13-12-2011 04:40PM

So now we have Holland, Belgium, Denmark, Spain, Portugal and Switzerland. Did I leave any out?

If it keeps going at this rate, this fast, countries still practising prohibition will be outnumbered. France now has countries with relaxed cannabis laws on three of its borders. I hope they have a look at the situation soon too and review their own position. I've always thought that nothing will happen here unless something happens in the UK. We will probably be one of the last dominos to fall but it's starting to look more and more likely.

Wattle · 13-12-2011 04:52PM

I always buy some Amnesia Haze when I'm in Amsterdam. I've never encountered anything as strong here in Ireland. I have a pretty good and reliable weed contact over here but it took years of trying and some amount of luck too. I shudder to think of the bad old days and the crap hash that we had to put up with for years.

Mike 1972 · 13-12-2011 07:20PM

The premise of the story is patently bullshyte

Irish and Dutch weed is basically grown in the same manner (i.e. indoors under artificial light)

However wheras most Dutch growers are competing on quality Irish growers are almost invariably out to make a quick buck and will be looking to minimise the time they allow for plants to grow/mature/dry out to minimise turnaround time, maximise profit and reduce the risk of detection.

Nobody should believe a single word from any media source which ever uses the phrase "street value" when reporting on anything drug related.

Jagle · 13-12-2011 07:26PM

pretty-in-pink wrote: »

i have in on excellent autority that its feels far stronger here, as the thc has nothing to counter act it. So maybe its not technically stronger, but has a greater effect?

I knwo you have

a. not smoked a joint of weed in ireland
and
b. not smoked a joint of weed in amsterdam, until you do, dont go around talking arse please

atkin · 26-03-2013 02:58PM

What amazes me is the money spent on indoor cultivation.Weed can grow outdoors easily sometimes up to 3 meters. You just take the buds from the female plant or flowers form the male. The leaves are useless.
When the Guards arrest they take the whole plant even soil and use it bump up the weight and price to ridiculous levels. I wonder why such practice is not challenged in the courts when the individual is just growing a small amount for home use .

Logical_Bear · 26-03-2013 03:06PM

atkin wrote: »

Weed can grow outdoors easily sometimes up to 3 meters.

but its sh1te(in Ireland)as it needs loads of sun to develop properly hence why its grown indoors under grow lights.

Afaik the guards have a set weight per joint and a value of that and they work backwards from there,hence if you get nicked with an ounce worth 200€ euro they can say it has a street value of 350€.the larger the amount the larger the difference

atkin · 26-03-2013 03:25PM

Logical_Bear wrote: »

but its sh1te(in Ireland)as it needs loads of sun to develop properly hence why its grown indoors under grow lights.

I disagree buy outdoor seeds and just smoke a little more same result.

mikom · 26-03-2013 03:39PM

atkin wrote: »

What amazes me is the money spent on indoor cultivation.Weed can grow outdoors easily sometimes up to 3 meters. You just take the buds from the female plant or flowers form the male. The leaves are useless.

Rightttt.....

ScumLord · 26-03-2013 03:48PM

atkin wrote: »

I disagree buy outdoor seeds and just smoke a little more same result.

Your not going to get anywhere near the strength off an outdoor variety in Ireland. We don't have the resources the plant needs to make the drug. Sun light.

We can grow 20ft high hemp plants here though. No good for smoking but would be a great industry.

Hoop66 · 26-03-2013 03:52PM

There's plenty of strains that will grow outdoors in Ireland. In fact, there are some that are specifically designed to grow in a northern hemisphere climate with only short periods of strong sunlight.

Do a bit of research.

ScumLord · 26-03-2013 03:55PM

Hoop66 wrote: »

There's plenty of strains that will grow outdoors in Ireland. In fact, there are some that are specifically designed to grow in a northern hemisphere climate with only short periods of strong sunlight.

Do a bit of research.

Our own native plants can barely handle the weather in Ireland at the moment. I still don't think your going to get anywhere near the strength off an outdoor plant. Plus you have to wait for it to complete it's cycle naturally, which take time.

gallag · 26-03-2013 04:01PM

I would crack seeds/mature plants outside in the summer months, while they are easy moved back in on cold nights.

Hoop66 · 26-03-2013 04:14PM

ScumLord wrote: »

Our own native plants can barely handle the weather in Ireland at the moment. I still don't think your going to get anywhere near the strength off an outdoor plant. Plus you have to wait for it to complete it's cycle naturally, which take time.

Well obviously you can't grow outdoors with weather like this/during the winter.
If you want a regular supply you need to grow indoors, or find a good way to store your autumn crop.

thebigbiffo · 26-03-2013 04:59PM

Jagle wrote: »

sorry but they havent a clue, growing weed indoors doesnt make it more potent, its the genetics of the plants that do.

and ive smoked dam weed, im sorry but the stuff here is not stronger.

Not entirely true...

Genetics play a big part - but light quality/strength, how you dry and how/how long you cure the weed makes a very big impact on potency.

i smoked some weed in Amsterdam recently which was nowhere near as good as some i've smoked at home. like anything it's about care and attention to detail. as people in this country become more knowledgeable about weed, the more they notice the differences between good and bad and the more money crims can make ensuring a good product.

supply/demand.

gallag · 26-03-2013 05:08PM

So, what you peeps hitting at present? Have a bit of nycd and haze for beer, weed and football night :-) smoked a lot of bud called "acid" over the last few weeks but it is almost to strong, even get a hangover from it, a lot of that ****ty orange bud going about for the commoners to smoke lol.

Hoop66 · 26-03-2013 05:13PM

NYCD is the best "daytime" weed I've ever had. Lovely up buzz without being too trippy. Walked for miles around the canals in the 'Dam on it.

Don't know what it is I have at the moment - definitely homegrown, and a bit high THC>CBD for my taste. Maybe it's the same "acid".

Beggars can't be choosers!

Logical_Bear · 26-03-2013 05:16PM

atkin wrote: »

Logical_Bear wrote: »

but its sh1te(in Ireland)as it needs loads of sun to develop properly hence why its grown indoors under grow lights.

I disagree buy outdoor seeds and just smoke a little more same result.

agree to disagree so

DepecheHead101 · 26-03-2013 05:37PM

If you can't afford a cheap and easy CFL set up then just bang a few hardy autoflowers into the ground when spring takes hold. You'll risk getting <1 ounce per plant but you would still more than break even from having to fork out a 50 note for 2-3 grams of annoyingly potent, CBD starved haze. Don't let some mad elite growers put you off. A 3/4 ounce of shrivelly, natural bud you grew yourself is more than worth the 7 to 10 quid that individual seed cost.

Smoking caramella auto and royal dwarf at the moment. Lovely stuff.

sbsquarepants · 26-03-2013 05:42PM

It's stronger cos it's watered with the sunday dinners cabbage water and fertilised with leprechaun shít. It's a powerfull combination!

Antar Bolaeisk · 26-03-2013 05:43PM

If ever there was a case for buying locally

billy2012 · 26-03-2013 08:06PM

DepecheHead101 wrote: »

If you can't afford a cheap and easy CFL set up then just bang a few hardy autoflowers into the ground when spring takes hold. You'll risk getting <1 ounce per plant but you would still more than break even from having to fork out a 50 note for 2-3 grams of annoyingly potent, CBD starved haze. Don't let some mad elite growers put you off. A 3/4 ounce of shrivelly, natural bud you grew yourself is more than worth the 7 to 10 quid that individual seed cost.

Smoking caramella auto and royal dwarf at the moment. Lovely stuff.

Home grown if i ever seen it

:):)

G Power · 26-03-2013 09:21PM

gallag wrote: »

So, what you peeps hitting at present? Have a bit of nycd and haze for beer, weed and football night :-) smoked a lot of bud called "acid" over the last few weeks but it is almost to strong, even get a hangover from it, a lot of that ****ty orange bud going about for the commoners to smoke lol.

euphoria, orange bud, skunk #1, super skunk, jack herer and some amnesia or cheese last night, couldn't be too sure :pac::pac::pac:

atkin · 27-03-2013 01:26PM

ScumLord wrote: »

Our own native plants can barely handle the weather in Ireland at the moment. I still don't think your going to get anywhere near the strength off an outdoor plant. Plus you have to wait for it to complete it's cycle naturally, which take time.

The period to grow outdoors is May to first frost early November .Outside this period even to start in late June is too late.
You used to be able to buy hemp bird seed in the 70's and get good results. They boiled the seeds or did something to them to stop this.

leddpipe · 27-03-2013 01:29PM

is there a dedicated 420 thread?Ive looked and cant find one!

EazyD · 27-03-2013 08:23PM

LOL @ "flowers from male plant"

Jimmy Garlic · 27-03-2013 08:29PM

The most psychotic episode I ever had while smoking weed was listening to Pink Floyd while eating a fried egg and peanut butter sandwich (a taste sensation!) at 4 in the morning.

blatantrereg · 27-03-2013 08:36PM

I believe the argument in the OP. I also agree it is an argument in favour of legalising it. Regulate and test THC v CBD levels and enforce a limit on the ratio. Tax it and label it with warnings regarding mental health, as well as THC, CBD content, along with any other chemicals of interest. Treat it like tobacco basically.

I'm not pro-cannabis. I don't smoke it, and I think most people have unrealistic ideas about its risks, which are quite significant. However I think its criminalisation is ineffective at best and probably counter-productive. I also think it's ethically questionable to criminalise people for something that doesn't per se effect anyone else.

Weed grown in Ireland is more potent than weed in Amsterdam!

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