The Angelus on RTE

mikemac1 · 24-03-2013 02:38PM

I remember when Network Two would play the National Anthem and then they'd shut down for the night

1ZRed · 24-03-2013 02:55PM

I read the title and thought this was going to be about Aengus' fuk up.

I am hungover and disappoint

Chuck Stone · 24-03-2013 02:56PM

mikemac1 wrote: »

I remember when Network Two would play the National Anthem and then they'd shut down for the night

Worse than that, they played 'A Prayer at Bedtime' I remember thinking 'don't tell me when it's bedtime ya bunch of pricks' as a youth.

Grand Moff Tarkin · 24-03-2013 03:15PM

mikemac1 wrote: »

I remember when Network Two would play the National Anthem and then they'd shut down for the night

RTE1 i think you are on about.

Grayson · 24-03-2013 03:28PM

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Worse than that, they played 'A Prayer at Bedtime' I remember thinking 'don't tell me when it's bedtime ya bunch of pricks' as a youth.

It pissed me off. First Shaka zulu was over, then they had to remind me that nothing else was on.

bb1234567 · 24-03-2013 03:30PM

Arpa wrote: »

Just saw someone mention the Angelus in the embarrassing TV moments thread. I was thinking about this yesterday as I heard it come on before the news and was wondering why do RTE have it on at all?

Surely a state broadcaster should not be promoting one religion over another, rather they should be unbiased and not have any religious prayer schedule. If they are going to have the Angelus why not the Muslim call to prayer or any other prayer schedule for that matter?

I think it's fine if they have religious affairs programming as long as they remain informative and are not preaching.

Whether one is religious or not surely the state broadcaster should not be aligning itself with any one particular faith especially since we currently don't have any ambassador in the Vatican State. I know people will think it's just tradition, but it's so dated now...a part of bygone times and I see no need for it to be forced on TV viewers or Radio listeners.

"What harm is it?", people might say. Well none in particular as in fact I find some source of comedy in all those people pausing and looking to the sky, which by the way nobody ever does. However it does represent an Ireland of the past and if we want to present ourselves as a modern, multi-cultural, multi-ethnic and multi-faith society then this should be removed from our broadcasting schedule.

What think ye AH?

Because this is a catholic majority country. Majority muslim countries dont broadcast angelus's so why should we broadcast muslim prayer calls?

convoy · 24-03-2013 03:39PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

Because this is a catholic majority country. Majority muslim countries dont broadcast angelus's so why should we broadcast muslim prayer calls?

Just to add my bit, for all its worth, its still a majority catholic country, although some of them are less that idealistic, I use the angelus as a minute for myself to just take a minute out and " reflect". Religion is a personal thing"

mikom · 24-03-2013 03:46PM

Jungle drums.

tolosenc · 24-03-2013 03:49PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

Because this is a catholic majority country. Majority muslim countries dont broadcast angelus's so why should we broadcast muslim prayer calls?

Because two wrongs don't make a right?

Arpa · 24-03-2013 03:57PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

Because this is a catholic majority country. Majority muslim countries dont broadcast angelus's so why should we broadcast muslim prayer calls?

I guess more to the point is why do we have to Broadcast any prayer times? The state broadcaster should not be promoting a religion because it is the majority in the country. The state broadcaster should not be promoting religion full stop.

I don't know what they broadcast on stations in Muslim countries and to be honest I couldn't care. Obviously I don't want Muslim prayer calls broadcast on Irish TV, similarly I don't want Catholic prayer times. (I think they're called Canonical hours, or I stand to be corrected). Anyway, the majority religion of a state should have no impact on TV programming, governance of that state, law of the state etc. I know we have a lot of baggage with the Catholic church in Ireland and it would be hard to shake that off over night, but surely a first step would be to get rid of the shackles of traditionalism inherent in RTE by removing the Angelus.

RTE still seems to have a mandate that it is catering for Mary who lives in a small hamlet outside of Skiberydoo as she sits, knitting, waiting for that lovely Aengus fella to come on while the kettle heats on the stove.

We are a modern society now and moving forward does not mean neglecting our heritage but having a religious prayer time on everyday is ridiculous for any modern broadcaster. RTE do nostalgia very well in programs like 'Reeling In The Years', so if we want nostalgia we'll watch that. They also have a religious program department and anything religious should be kept within that remit. We should not be subjected to religion everyday at 6 because it's always been that way.

LordSutch · 24-03-2013 04:02PM

Outdated, outmoded, a relic from the past . . . .

Plus the fact that we are not all Roman Catholics.

kowloon · 24-03-2013 04:41PM

It's pretty outdated at this stage, needs to be brought up to date.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l71gaZnYgOU

A Neurotic · 24-03-2013 04:52PM

murpho999 wrote: »

...also interviewing priests when something bad happens in a vilage (which they often refer to as a parish).

It's a reflectoin of the old Ireland that we should leave behind.

In fairness, parish is probably much better unit to describe rural communities by, it being the dividing factor between GAA teams etc.

electrobanana · 24-03-2013 04:58PM

To be honest i think its one of the best shows on RTE these days pity its not on for longer. Maybe they should do a few hour long specials during the year..come on RTE make it happen.

OCorcrainn · 24-03-2013 05:15PM

Oh look at me I'm an atheist and I think religion is for stupid and narrowminded people.

Seriously who gives a flying f**k? If you don't like it and think it is embarassing to watch then don't f**King watch it. It is that simple.

My name is URL · 24-03-2013 05:17PM

The old one was better.. where people used to look up at the sky as if they were waiting for Jesus to cum all over their faces.

Meh.. it doesn't really bother me tbh. If you've no interest in it then don't tune in for it... simple enough I would have thought.

LordSutch wrote: »

Outdated, outmoded, a relic from the past . . . .

Plus the fact that we are not all Roman Catholics.

Are you speaking exclusively about the angelus, or religious broadcasting on state funded TV in general? As Yamanoto pointed out a few posts back, the BBC broadcast more religious programs than RTE.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/genres/religionandethics/schedules

Sergeant · 24-03-2013 05:28PM

Nothing outrages me more than a bell ringing for 60 seconds on a channel I don't watch that often. It impinges on me as a human. I haven't given much thought to how it does this, but I've been told that it does.

I'm apocalyptic with anger. I propose we burn down RTE.

Snake Plisken · 24-03-2013 05:34PM

If you don't like it switch to another channel that's what your remote control is for!

LordSutch · 24-03-2013 05:43PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Are you speaking exclusively about the angelus . . .

Yes, I am talking about the outdated, outmoded, relic from the past (from a bygone era) that is the RTE Angelus.

Time to drop it and move on.

Miss Lockhart · 24-03-2013 05:45PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Are you speaking exclusively about the angelus, or religious broadcasting on state funded TV in general? As Yamanoto pointed out a few posts back, the BBC broadcast more religious programs than RTE.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/genres/religionandethics/schedules

I hardly think a country where a church is directly represented in parliament and whose head of state must be part of that church is a place to look for comparison.

The angelus bothers me because it is representative of church interference in what should be secular matters and it acts as a reminder of just how far we still have to go towards achieving separation of church and state.

Of course I am free to switch it off. And I do. But that doesn't solve the problem that exists in the first place.

Seachmall · 24-03-2013 05:51PM

OCorcrainn wrote: »

Oh look at me I'm an atheist and I think religion is for stupid and narrowminded people.

I don't think anyone has expressed that opinion.

Yet.

Seriously who gives a flying f**k?

59.38% of voters thus far.

jimmynokia · 24-03-2013 05:55PM

Ever listened to it with a hangover BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG BOOOOOOOOOOOONG.:eek:

ManMade · 24-03-2013 05:57PM

Just searched the angelus on boards.ie
All I can say is jeesh. There's got to be at least 20 in after hours and television.

Me I don't really care at all tbh, keep it get rid of it. What difference does it make? 60 more seconds of quality advertisements instead?

Sergeant · 24-03-2013 06:00PM

ManMade wrote: »

Just searched the angelus on boards.ie
All I can say is jeesh. There's got to be at least 20 in after hours and television.

Me I don't really care at all tbh, keep it get rid of it. What difference does it make? 60 more seconds of quality advertisements instead?

A reading from The Book of Dawkins.

Sunnyisland · 24-03-2013 06:00PM

Don't mind it in the least, Its like a warning alarm before the news comes on and when people here they comment, Is it six o clock already...

dissed doc · 24-03-2013 06:00PM

Arpa wrote: »

.... However it does represent an Ireland of the past and if we want to present ourselves as a modern, multi-cultural, multi-ethnic and multi-faith society then this should be removed from our broadcasting schedule.

What think ye AH?

I always wonder why people regularly regard multiculturalism and multiethnicism, etc., modern or progressive. To be it seems backwards, as people naturally align themselves into groups of common interest; without it, the only to bind people together is the state, leading to totalitarianism.

SilverScreen · 24-03-2013 06:00PM

OCorcrainn wrote: »

Oh look at me I'm an atheist and I think religion is for stupid and narrowminded people.

Actually I find some atheists just as narrow-minded as religious people.

kowloon · 24-03-2013 06:06PM

OCorcrainn wrote: »

Oh look at me I'm an atheist and I think religion is for stupid and narrowminded people.

Seriously who gives a flying f**k? If you don't like it and think it is embarassing to watch then don't f**King watch it. It is that simple.

Oh look at me, Atheism is too mainstream for me and I think it's for sheeple who jump on the bandwagon.

Seriously, who gives a flying f**k? If you don't like it tough, you have to pay for it anyway because our national broadcaster reflects the national preference for Catholicism and the broadcasting charge is mandatory.

Two can play this game amigo, let the dance begin! :pac:

smokedeels · 24-03-2013 06:22PM

I like the idea, maybe the introduction of a secular version would be good.

The notion of encouraging people to take a minute to put down their phones, shut-up talking and just have a think of life, the universe and whatever else matters to them, appeals to me.

My name is URL · 24-03-2013 06:23PM

LordSutch wrote: »

Yes, I am talking about the outdated, outmoded, relic from the past (from a bygone era) that is the RTE Angelus.

Time to drop it and move on.

So what's your opinion on the hours upon hours of religious material broadcast on BBC? Just curious as to why you've such an issue with the angelus being played for 60 seconds a day yet seem to have no issue with the like of 'Songs of Praise' etc...

Miss Lockhart wrote: »

I hardly think a country where a church is directly represented in parliament and whose head of state must be part of that church is a place to look for comparison.

The angelus bothers me because it is representative of church interference in what should be secular matters and it acts as a reminder of just how far we still have to go towards achieving separation of church and state.

Of course I am free to switch it off. And I do. But that doesn't solve the problem that exists in the first place.

Fair enough.. I still don't think it's an overly important issue. A far more pressing concern for me would be the fact that the opening paragraph of our national constitution is basically a prayer.. but hardly anybody seems to be too bothered by that. Maybe they're not even aware of it though!

In the Name of the Most Holy Trinity, from Whom is all authority and to Whom, as our final end, all actions both of men and States must be referred,
We, the people of Éire,
Humbly acknowledging all our obligations to our Divine Lord, Jesus Christ, Who sustained our fathers through centuries of trial.

The Angelus on RTE

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