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Proud to be from where you come from

  • 20-03-2013 02:33PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭


    How far does your pride go?

    We've got some people here who are proud of their county, then after that, their country.
    Are you proud to be european or does it only go so far as national borders?
    If you are proud to be european, are you proud to be human? we've done a hell of a lot more in our time than cows.

    How many of you, who are proud to be irish, are aware of what it is like to be another nationality?

    There are many of you who will claim we are in a far better position than Africans. But wouldn't it be more specific to compare continent to continent in that respect?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭racso1975


    You lost me at hello


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,433 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    Another proud to be Irish thread. Haven't had one of those in a while. FWIW, patriotism is illogical. Nobody chose to be born in their country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 LaminatorSGL


    Why be proud of something that is out of your control? Being born somewhere, or having parents of the same nationality is happenstance.

    Defeating the giant monkey man and saving the 9th dimension? Now that's pride inducing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Leftist


    Confab wrote: »
    Another proud to be Irish thread. Haven't had one of those in a while. FWIW, patriotism is illogical. Nobody chose to be born in their country.

    fwiw, that's my kind of my point. I despise this 'proud to be from the only place I know' sh!t.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,096 ✭✭✭conorhal


    Confab wrote: »
    Another proud to be Irish thread. Haven't had one of those in a while. FWIW, patriotism is illogical. Nobody chose to be born in their country.

    That's a bit like saying loving your parents is illogical, after all nobody chose ot be born into their family.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    I'm not proud exactly, just lucky I was born where I was instead of any other place on earth


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,646 ✭✭✭✭Sauve


    This pesto is AMAZING.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 548 ✭✭✭Three Seasons


    conorhal wrote: »

    That's a bit like saying loving your parents is illogical, after all nobody chose ot be born into their family.

    It's not really. Pride is about feeling good for some sort of accomplishment. Being born somewhere isn't an accomplishment. It's the luck of the draw. You can't really say you are proud you won a raffle.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 252 ✭✭SNORBEAST




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,366 ✭✭✭✭Kylo Ren


    Sauve wrote: »
    This pesto is AMAZING.

    Would you say you were proud of it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭spankysue


    I'm an Earthling and proud of it :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    "Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind."

    -Albert Einstein


    But then again Albert obviously never attended an impassioned game of rugby, such as the time Ireland kicked the English around Croke Park.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Rasheed


    I'm proud of my parish, my county and my country and feel lucky that I was born where I was.

    I know I've no control over it but I'm proud none the less. Can't help it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Leftist


    conorhal wrote: »
    That's a bit like saying loving your parents is illogical, after all nobody chose ot be born into their family.
    Really? your country raises you and takes care of you like your parents? you have a similar relationship?

    either you have got very lucky with our government and it's welfare or your parents are really cold and distant.
    Links234 wrote: »
    I'm not proud exactly, just lucky I was born where I was instead of any other place on earth
    Joke?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,089 ✭✭✭✭LizT


    I won a Nobel peace prize last year because of where I'm from :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 567 ✭✭✭bonnieprince


    I am proud of myself for not getting caught up in Nationalistic fervour (except when it comes to Rugby).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,646 ✭✭✭✭Sauve


    Keno 92 wrote: »

    Would you say you were proud of it?

    Nah I don't live in it, I'm just ate'in it...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,362 ✭✭✭Sergeant


    I cry huge blubbery tears of joy and pride into my pint of Bulmers any time a Wolfe Tones song comes on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,571 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    im proud of being human (most of the time until i read some of the **** people get up to) as its an accomplishment in itself that we even exist,

    i also love ireland (the country not the fcuk wits that run it) as it is a beautiful country when we get a bit of sun


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    conorhal wrote: »
    That's a bit like saying loving your parents is illogical, after all nobody chose ot be born into their family.

    We're pretty much hardwired to give unconditional love to our parents, which is about the only reason throwing the baby out with the bathwater is a euphemism rather than a common occurrence. It's irrational, but useful. Unless you imagine there is a surplus of she-wolves looking to have a part in founding the new Rome.

    The arbitrary border inside which the latitude and longitude that you were unceremoniously shoved into this world is located are altogether more abstract concept.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Leftist


    im proud of being human (most of the time until i read some of the **** people get up to) as its an accomplishment in itself that we even exist,

    i also love ireland (the country not the fcuk wits that run it) as it is a beautiful country when we get a bit of sun

    wow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,096 ✭✭✭conorhal


    It's not really. Pride is about feeling good for some sort of accomplishment. Being born somewhere isn't an accomplishment. It's the luck of the draw. You can't really say you are proud you won a raffle.

    You'd do well in Irish politics.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,096 ✭✭✭conorhal


    We're pretty much hardwired to give unconditional love to our parents, which is about the only reason throwing the baby out with the bathwater is a euphemism rather than a common occurrence. It's irrational, but useful. Unless you imagine there is a surplus of she-wolves looking to have a part in founding the new Rome.

    The arbitrary border inside which the latitude and longitude that you were unceremoniously shoved into this world is located is altogether more abstract concept.

    I'd say the same about nation's. Human being's are hardwired social animals, genetic affiliation and tribal association are universally characteristic, the building blocks of any society which requires interdependence. There is of course the social cohesion aspect of the equation that is as important to a nation as a family, based on a shared history, an understanding of our past and how it shapes our futures, the odd little quirks we all have.
    That said, I'm, less and less proud to be Irish every day, our highly corporatist society has no cohesion any longer which makes if of little benefit to be considered part of it.


  • Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I was a very proud Londoner during the Olympics last year.

    Not so proud during the London riots.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭crockholm


    Would you buy bread called "Irish Nonchalance" ????????????????????????????????????????????????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,089 ✭✭✭✭LizT


    crockholm wrote: »
    Would you buy bread called "Irish Nonchalance" ????????????????????????????????????????????????

    No but I wouldn't buy Irish pride either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    Proud of inhabiting a non descript rock on the periphery of a landmass that itself didnt exist a few million years ago, and will cease to exist in its current form in another few million years? My god, what infantile flimflam.

    What am I but a random collection of atoms anyway? My "existence" is in itself massively meaningless, let alone the consideration of "where" these random hodge podge of particles happens to "exist" on this chunk of space debris we call Earth.

    These inane trivialities are beneath me franky.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    crockholm wrote: »
    Would you buy bread called "Irish Nonchalance" ????????????????????????????????????????????????

    Take it easy with the question marks there kid. Boards only has a certain amount of them each day.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,627 ✭✭✭Lawrence1895


    I'm proud of being German. Why not, there are other things than the Third Reich and Angela Merkel ;)


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