Who do you think is performing well in government?

Yitzhak Rabin · 19-03-2013 08:35PM

bgrizzley wrote: »

is Mick wallace part of that? he's doing fairly well, whatever about the rest of them

He certainly is.

Owes the Irish State 2.1million in tax, but has wrangled his way into a situation where he gets paid by taxpayers to talk tarmac up in the backseats of the Dail. Cute hoor.

mccarthy37 · 19-03-2013 08:48PM

The barman in the Dail bar I hear hes very efficient at his job.

Bullseye1 · 19-03-2013 08:48PM

fits wrote: »

OP don't you know, you're not allowed actually *praise* anyone on the internet. The internet is only for bile and vitriol... silly!

Awaits your list of politicians doing well and why.

RealExpert · 19-03-2013 08:49PM

They are performing well for themselves not for the Irish people.
I stand to be corrected on the figures but 19 of those wa****s (wallies:-) effed off to different countries around the world to celebrate St Patricks day at the taxpayers expense while a lot of Irish people are living well below the breadline.Obviously the celebrations at home are not good enough for them.
This country is no different than Iraq, we have a numerous dictators that cannot create one single job they are all a waste of space.
Shame on them and all that represent them.
I think you just put this thread here to wind people like me up..............
O well back to butter and spuds for the week

Yitzhak Rabin · 19-03-2013 08:53PM

RealExpert wrote: »

They are performing well for themselves not for the Irish people.
I stand to be corrected on the figures but 19 of those wa****s (wallies:-) effed off to different countries around the world to celebrate St Patricks day at the taxpayers expense while a lot of Irish people are living well below the breadline.Obviously the celebrations at home are not good enough for them.
This country is no different than Iraq, we have a numerous dictators that cannot create one single job they are all a waste of space.
Shame on them and all that represent them.
I think you just put this thread here to wind people like me up..............
O well back to butter and spuds for the week

Ya, its wall-to-wall marketplace carbombs and female literacy rate of about 60%.

hawkelady · 19-03-2013 09:00PM

You think Kenny is articulate and a true leader.
I'll tell you what he is , remember when he told us that it's not our fault and then fecked off and told Europe that it was our fault . Then he got all scruffed up by the French pres like he was a prize poodle!!!

Kenny is two faced and has as much charisma as a wet plank !!!

hatrickpatrick · 19-03-2013 09:06PM

Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »

I was under the impression that the ULA spent their time talking utter bollocks up in their corner of the Dail.

They're fantastic at rhetoric and platitudes like opposing all cuts or taxes, yet never quite explaining how they propose to fund the country.

Designing a monetary system in which money is actually based on value rather than mathematical theory which looks good on paper but utterly fails when applied to reality would be a good start, and out of all the parties we have, they seem to be the closest to saying we should let the whole thing fall apart so we can rebuild something new and epic from the ruins.

BlatentCheek · 19-03-2013 09:09PM

Wholeheartedly disagree with the policies of this Govt. but I have to admit that Noonan, Burton and Coveney display a certain degree of capability rare in Irish politics.

Shatters borderline, a little too high-handed but he is pushing through genuine reform and will probably make considerable savings in the areas he's responsible for.

Enda's a show pony that will say whatever he thinks his audience wants to hear ('your not responsible for this' to Irish people vs. 'everyone in Ireland went crazy' to his masters abroad) and his statesmanship is limited to doing party tricks for the troika in exchange for a pat on the head.

No matter how bad this government is remember the state of the last one, every day felt like a crisis where the people at the top didn't have a clue or even cared that much: Cowen giving that interview still apparently jarred, the minister for transport refusing to come back from his holidays in the sun when the big freeze shut down transport across the country. The country felt like it was in freefall.

I think that the parts of the opposition that aren't tainted to a lot of people by previous association with corruption (FF) or murder (SF) have displayed an astonishing lack of political ability in their failure to make polling gains by opposing austerity.
Donnelly's the only one of the protest vote independents from 2011 that hasn't been a huge disappointment

Cee-Jay-Cee · 19-03-2013 09:15PM

efb wrote: »

Enda Kenny
Michael Noonan
Simon Covney

They would be the best for me.

Whereas I would like to punch them square in the face busting all their teeth.

ToddyDoody · 19-03-2013 09:26PM

One man: Michael "wiggy" Noonan

Phoebas · 19-03-2013 09:29PM

Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »

Who do you think is doing a bang-up job in government?

Burton, Kenny, Noonan, Varadkar, Bruton, Coveney.

donvito99 wrote: »

Stephen Donnelly TD is the only person sitting in Dáil Éireann who I wouldn't consider kicking in the face.

Not in Government.

HondaSami wrote: »

Ming is doing ok, getting lots of publicity.

Not in Government.

Pherekydes wrote: »

Róisín Shortall.

Not in Government.

bgrizzley wrote: »

is Mick wallace part of that? he's doing fairly well, whatever about the rest of them

Not in Government.

BillyMitchel · 19-03-2013 09:30PM

RealExpert wrote: »

They are performing well for themselves not for the Irish people.
I stand to be corrected on the figures but 19 of those wa****s (wallies:-) effed off to different countries around the world to celebrate St Patricks day at the taxpayers expense while a lot of Irish people are living well below the breadline.Obviously the celebrations at home are not good enough for them.
This country is no different than Iraq, we have a numerous dictators that cannot create one single job they are all a waste of space.
Shame on them and all that represent them.
I think you just put this thread here to wind people like me up..............
O well back to butter and spuds for the week

While I'd be no fan of this government but that statement is just ridiculas. How many people do you know in Ireland that were killed today because of car and suicide bombs?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-21840718

sfwcork · 19-03-2013 09:41PM

I fail to see how you can class enda kenny as charismatic...in fact his a charismatic as a bag of poo

Comparing endav kenny to mchael collins is like comparing conor sammon or kevin kilbane to messi

Wompa1 · 19-03-2013 09:42PM

Phoebas wrote: »

Burton, Kenny, Noonan, Varadkar, Bruton, Coveney.

Not in Government.

Not in Government.

Not in Government.

Not in Government.

Kenny, Varadkar

Not in Government.

Red Pepper · 19-03-2013 09:42PM

Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »

Personally I think Joan Burton has been one of the stars.

Are you for real?!!!!??? Joan Burton has done a whole lot of nothing! All the decisions on welfare were made against her wishes.

Her main job was to means-test childrens benefit. She is nearly 2 years in now and is still faffing around with reports etc.

In my eyes only one minister is doing a worse job than Joan Burton and that is Howlin. Utterly useless. Asked to find 5% savings (€75m) in allowances, went to unions and then faced the public/Dail with only €3m in savings, 1 allowance if I remember correctly. His achievement was 4% of his target and the clueless git somehow kept his job. In the private sector he would have been chewed up. He was more afraid of the unions than he was of coming before the public with his pathetic improvement.

#1 Brendan Howlin
#2 Joan Burton
#3 Gilmore
#4 Enda Kenny

Watch the latter 3 retire on huge pensions in 3 years.

heartseeker · 19-03-2013 09:43PM

The PR and spin doctors which act on behalf of the politicians and were up until recently doing a great job of convincing the Irish people that raping them is all for the common good and to sit back and take it.Honourable mention for this thread starter.

Red Pepper · 19-03-2013 09:44PM

Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »

Personally I think Joan Burton has been one of the stars. She has been able to put aside some of her long held socialist ideals and tackle the behemoth challenge of the social welfare bill. An enormous task, and I think she has embraced her portfolio with gusto. As Bertie would say though, alot done, more to do!

I also think Toaiseach Enda Kenny deserves an honourable mention. I think he did a fantastic job over in the US this week and was quite inspirational.

Who do you think is doing a bang-up job in government?

Please ban this poster for trolling...

Joan Burton!!??!!

fits · 19-03-2013 09:47PM

Enda Kenny is the best Taoiseach we have had in an awfully long time. Unfortunately that's not saying much.

I think Michael Noonan is doing a good job with the hand that he was dealt. All bets are off if they sell off the forests though. (grrr)

Yitzhak Rabin · 19-03-2013 09:51PM

Red Pepper wrote: »

Please ban this poster for trolling...

Joan Burton!!??!!

http://www.thejournal.ie/social-welfare-fraud-824965-Mar2013/

THE MINISTER FOR Social Protection Joan Burton has said that some €669 million has been saved in her department through a broad range of control measures to address fraudulent claims and errors.

In total, more than one million reviews of individual social welfare claims were carried out, again exceeding target, which had been set at 985,000.

I don't see what you find so ridiculous. Ms. Burton has shown herself to be an exceptional politician. Given how she was snubbed for the finance job, yet she in true patriot fashion just pulled up her socks and got on with the nasty business of sorting out the quagmire this country is in.

Its easy to bleat nonsense on the sidelines like our comrades in the ULA and Sinn Fein. What is much harder to do is get stuck in and take the difficult decisions that you know won't make it easy for you when the fickle short-term thinkers go to the ballots every five years.

Red Pepper · 19-03-2013 09:56PM

Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »

http://www.thejournal.ie/social-welfare-fraud-824965-Mar2013/

I don't see what you find so ridiculous. Ms. Burton has shown herself to be an exceptional politician. Given how she was snubbed for the finance job, yet she in true patriot fashion just pulled up her socks and got on with the nasty business of sorting out the quagmire this country is in.

Its easy to bleat nonsense on the sidelines like our comrades in the ULA and Sinn Fein. What is much harder to do is get stuck in and take the difficult decisions that you know won't make it easy for you when the fickle short-term thinkers go to the ballots every five years.

Finding fraud in social welfare is the work of the good folks of the Social Welfare Department. They are basically doing their job! And I would question whether they were so pro-active during the boom. Now they need the money for their own salaries/allowances so they are all over the fraud like a rash.

Did Bruton catch the fraudsters herself? What changes/policies/bills has Burton brought forward?

BillyMitchel · 19-03-2013 09:59PM

It's like the Fianna Gael ard fheis in here.

Madam_X · 19-03-2013 10:04PM

Not blindly jumping onto the bandwagon of finding nothing but fault with the government doesn't automatically mean FG voter.

ToddyDoody · 19-03-2013 10:22PM

BillyMitchel wrote: »

It's like the Fianna Gael ard fheis in here.

Only less prostitutes.

BillyMitchel · 19-03-2013 10:31PM

Madam_X wrote: »

Not blindly jumping onto the bandwagon of finding nothing but fault with the government doesn't automatically mean FG voter.

I know, I know just a bit of banter

Yitzhak Rabin · 19-03-2013 10:34PM

Red Pepper wrote: »

Finding fraud in social welfare is the work of the good folks of the Social Welfare Department. They are basically doing their job! And I would question whether they were so pro-active during the boom. Now they need the money for their own salaries/allowances so they are all over the fraud like a rash.

Did Bruton catch the fraudsters herself? What changes/policies/bills has Burton brought forward?

She leads the department. It was under her guidance that they reformed and started to become an effective at rooting out welfare fraud.

sfwcork · 19-03-2013 10:37PM

Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »

She leads the department. It was under her guidance that they reformed and started to become an effective at rooting out welfare fraud.

So because she leads she gets all the credit?

Yitzhak Rabin · 19-03-2013 10:38PM

sfwcork wrote: »

So because she leads she gets all the credit?

She'd certainly be getting the blame if things were going badly.

James Reilly gets a load of bile posted about him, despite being an excellent public servant, because he is the head of a dysfunctional department.

Systemic Risk · 19-03-2013 10:39PM

This thread is a breath of fresh air

. I actually think Kenny and Noonan aren't doing a bad job in Europe.

sfwcork · 19-03-2013 10:41PM

So you think james reilly is doing a good job?

This has to be trolling

Yitzhak Rabin · 19-03-2013 10:43PM

sfwcork wrote: »

So you think james reilly is doing a good job?

This has to be trolling

I think he has one of the most difficult jobs in the entire country.

I think he is an excellent example of someone who believes in public service. He is a multi-millionaire. He's not in the job for the money, he is doing it, because he wants to see right by the country. I admire that and wish him well.

Who do you think is performing well in government?

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