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The arrogance of old age

  • 17-03-2013 10:41PM
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 30 the emperors innuendo


    I was watching Vincent brown the other night and among the panel he had on was a young female candidate for some by election. I think she said she was 27 or so. Although I am a fan of Brown and the controversy he generates, being the presenter that he is he had to ask that stupid question posed to all young aspiring politicians which is; 'do you not think your a bit young?'. I cringed when asked this question. what has age to do with political competence?
    The track record of the past government would suggest that old age corresponds with political incompetence. Off the top of my head I would think that the medium age of those in that government was 50. Going by Browne's logic and probably the logic of many of the elders in this country, would suggest the older a party is the more politically competent it is.

    But this is obvious bullcr.ap as history has thought us that with age in this country comes political incompetence since it is now the generation of youth, my generation, who has to clean up after the shower of crooks and gangsters who took a world class economy and drove it into the ground.
    Perhaps its my generation who are better off running this country since it is us who have paid the ultimate price by the incompetence of our elders since we are the ones who are first hit by social welfare cuts and forced to immigrate because of the lack of opportunities our 'elders' deprived us of.

    I was once a great believer that one should respect his elders but I no longer believe in this considering how my parents behaved during the economic boom, remortgaging our family home and now we are faced with the prospect of losing it. I think its time for a social revolution in this country where the youth should mobilize and the old should step aside so that we can restore it to its former glory. Because it has been at times of great crisis where the youth have shown true leadership!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,554 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    Because it has been at times of great crisis where the youth have shown true leadership!

    by pissing off to england/america?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭Pushtrak


    Although I am a fan of Brown and the controversy he generates, being the presenter that he is he had to ask that stupid question posed to all young aspiring politicians which is; 'do you not think your a bit young?'. I cringed when asked this question. what has age to do with political competence?
    I don't care about what age someone is, like you, I would care about competence. You should know, though, most people don't think like that, and the purpose of these talks is to ask people the questions that the public would like to ask. For the benefit of the (I would presume) majority, that question would need to be asked and answered. Honestly, a hard hitting and being able for it is to the interviewees credit, as it would stand by them a lot more than a "Shur, aren't you great?" interview.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 453 ✭✭CollardGreens


    since we are the ones who are first hit by social welfare cuts


    ah yes, the "entitlement" generation :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    How old are your parents since you are still describing yourself as a youth?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 30 the emperors innuendo


    How old are your parents since you are still describing yourself as a youth?

    I'm 26, my parents are 59 and 55.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken



    But this is obvious bullcr.ap as history has thought us that with age in this country comes political incompetence since it is now the generation of youth, my generation, who has to clean up after the shower of crooks and gangsters who took a world class economy and drove it into the ground.

    You dont realise that the youth of the 80s faced the same thing. The difference was that we didnt whinge about it, we got on with it. Granted, people left the country in droves, but those of who stayed (a lot of people) made the best of it.

    I'd nearly bet that its the ones that returned when things got better, are the ones who ran amok with loans they couldnt pay back.
    The rest of us have long memories.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    I wish this country had more Vincent Brownes


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 30 the emperors innuendo


    I dont understand what age has to do it with it. Some past political figures were very young at the time of their deaths or coming to power. take for instance Gaddafi, 27 when he seized power. Michael Collins was 31 when he died and he left behind him a distinguished career in politics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    I'm 26, my parents are 59 and 55.

    I will take it that you are living at home, hence the resentment to their mistakes.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 30 the emperors innuendo


    I will take it that you are living at home, hence the resentment to their mistakes.

    im not actually, i've been living independently since I was 17.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    im not actually, i've been living independently since I was 17.

    Well you said "we" are now facing the prospect of losing our family home, so forgive the confusion on my part.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 30 the emperors innuendo


    Well you said "we" are now facing the prospect of losing our family home, so forgive the confusion on my part.

    i would still consider it home since i was born and raised there


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    Thread: Only the youth can restore the nation to it's former glory!

    Location: West Britain.

    C'mon, it's Paddy's day for crying out loud, half the country is drunk out of their minds on booze and misplaced national pride, and this is the best you can do?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Well you said "we" are now facing the prospect of losing our family home, so forgive the confusion on my part.

    Where there's a will, there's a way.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,162 ✭✭✭Augmerson


    Is that you Dylan Haskins?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 836 ✭✭✭uberalles


    Vincent Browne put it up to Bertie Ahern when no one else had the balls.

    He asked a simple question to that <30 year old. All they had to do was answer it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    i would still consider it home since i was born and raised there

    Well then why not support your parents in this difficult time, rather than pass judgement on them, unless you are secretly seething about your inheritance.

    My parents, older than your own, did their best for me throughout their lives, feck it they made mistakes, but I can see the bigger picture and it scares the crap out of me knowing that they will not be around for much longer, maybe think of that OP, might help to subdue the bitterness.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 797 ✭✭✭Dwork


    I wish this country had more Vincent Brownes
    Old lads up to their necks in debt who spend all day talking and never get anything done/changed? Sure we've loads of those. Name one thing old gobby chops has succeeded in changing, apart from his bank balance?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 800 ✭✭✭a fat guy


    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0266308/

    Can you imagine how half-arsed our version would be when they tried to keep us in line like this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 659 ✭✭✭FaganJr


    Chucken wrote: »
    You dont realise that the youth of the 80s faced the same thing. The difference was that we didnt whinge about it, we got on with it. Granted, people left the country in droves, but those of who stayed (a lot of people) made the best of it.

    Yes we did and we still do, we got on with it, yes because like now we have no other choice!
    Jesus Christ we complained ALOT, only difference we had no outlet like the internet. It was all local, the Disco, the Pub and the Church and Bingo if you were into the kind of crack!
    Dont make our generation to be any better than this one, our biggest mistake was voting in FF for 12 years and it was the older generations that done that! And will do it again by the looks of things! WE ****ed up just as much!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 30 the emperors innuendo


    Well then why not support your parents in this difficult time, rather than pass judgement on them, unless you are secretly seething about your inheritance.

    My parents, older than your own, did their best for me throughout their lives, feck it they made mistakes, but I can see the bigger picture and it scares the crap out of me knowing that they will not be around for much longer, maybe think of that OP, might help to subdue the bitterness.

    i would rather watch them suffer the effects of their own greed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    FaganJr wrote: »
    Yes we did and we still do, we got on with it, yes because like now we have no other choice!
    Jesus Christ we complained ALOT, only difference we had no outlet like the internet. It was all local, the Disco, the Pub and the Church and Bingo if you were into the kind of crack!
    Dont make our generation to be any better than this one, our biggest mistake was voting in FF for 12 years and it was the older generations that done that! And will do it again by the looks of things! WE ****ed up just as much!

    Oh I'm not making out we're better than this generation. I was trying point out thats its all happened before...no doubt it'll happen again.
    One thing though, I certainly never held out for a "certain" type of job, I took what was there. I had 2 children to raise and if I got a few hours here and there, it didnt matter what it was.
    All the hours added up and I made it through without signing on.
    My oddest job was chimney cleaning, I bought some brushes and knocked on doors!
    Big deal you might say? No big deal only I'm a woman :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,847 ✭✭✭bleg


    We are an ageist society but against people under 25 rather than those over 65.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    i would rather watch them suffer the effects of their own greed.

    Than?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 30 the emperors innuendo


    Than?

    support them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    i would rather watch them suffer the effects of their own greed.


    You should try this. :p




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 836 ✭✭✭uberalles


    Chucken wrote: »
    Oh I'm not making out we're better than this generation. I was trying point out thats its all happened before...no doubt it'll happen again.
    One thing though, I certainly never held out for a "certain" type of job, I took what was there. I had 2 children to raise and if I got a few hours here and there, it didnt matter what it was.
    All the hours added up and I made it through without signing on.
    My oddest job was chimney cleaning, I bought some brushes and knocked on doors!
    Big deal you might say? No big deal only I'm a woman :D

    Well done you and without signing on ! Respect


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    support them.

    So their poor financial decisions are the tip of the iceberg?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭toastedpickles


    Had an experience with that in college there a year ago, there was a french guy in my class, about 55 years old and he wasn't the best on a computer, we had a project where we had to survey a 2 story building, draw it up, and print each drawing on an a1 page, He was originally an artist so him and technical drawings didn't really work

    So cue printing day and he decides to plot his drawings out in all black and white ink for the actual drawings when its meant to be black lines for the drawing, which is common sense, I warned him about this and his reply "ah it'l be fine, you're only young you don't know what you're on about, I've been doing this way longer then you"

    Day of the hand up we had an architect in with us and she ripped him apart, cue smug as feck pickles :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    i would rather watch them suffer the effects of their own greed.

    Nice! You must love them deeply.


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