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revenue issues threat to every homeowner in the country.

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  • #902
    Bruthal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,370 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    MadsL wrote: »
    When was the last time you drove 1000 miles on a road trip? You run out of land after 200!

    79,000 miles on my car, and not once have I drove into the sea.


  • #903
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,787 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    A common misunderstanding is that in other countries their local and property taxes pay for all local services. Taking England as an example (and they have separate charges for water and sewerage) the Council Tax only pays for 25% of services. The rest comes from commercial rates and central government grants.

    http://www.which.co.uk/money/tax/guides/council-tax/understanding-council-tax/

    Our new set up will be roughly similar.

    Lots of people unhappy in England, listen from 1 min for about 6 mins.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01r91qr


  • #904
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    It's actually going to pay for Child Benefit. So the black hole filling material will have to be got from elsewhere.

    bet he's not paying a USC or a PRSI which gets you absolutely zilch.


  • #905
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    Good news for all the people that put Fianna Fail in power before. They're defintely on the way back. And Labour are down to 9%. Soon no more Property Tax wohooo.

    http://www.newstalk.ie/reader/47.301.344/7007/0/

    Fine Gael's Property Tax is the cause of that as right.
    Imagine being lower than that shower.


  • #906
    Big Bottom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 346 ✭✭Big Bottom


    Ha ha, fools who bought realy expensive houses to impress others are now feeling the squeeze and rightly so!


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  • #907
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Am I the only poster who thinks that MadsL is not abroad at all.
    I think he's right here in Ireland and follows a party in power.
    We have quite a few of them on here.


  • #908
    Bruthal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,370 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Am I the only poster who thinks that MadsL is not abroad at all.

    I thought he was a bloke alright


  • #909
    solas111
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 399 ✭✭solas111


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Am I the only poster who thinks that MadsL is not abroad at all.
    I think he's right here in Ireland and follows a party in power.
    We have quite a few of them on here.

    I don’t know how to break this to you and I promised not to tell but ….

    He’s is really here in Ireland and is Phil Hogan’s mammy.


  • #910
    Courtesy Flush
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,859 ✭✭✭Courtesy Flush


    SamHall wrote: »
    Revenue have began to bare their teeth,and issue a threat to every eligible homeowner on the island that 'they'll get you'.



    Let's hope there is anarchy on the streets!

    .

    I think the fact that they know there wont be anarchy in the streets is one of the reasons they keep screwing us with more taxes and charges


  • #911
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    solas111 wrote: »
    I don’t know how to break this to you and I promised not to tell but ….

    He’s is really here in Ireland and is Phil Hogan’s mammy.

    No I don't think he has as much "power" as Phil's mammy.


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  • #912
    darkhorse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭darkhorse


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    Do you think your man is going to win in East Meath?

    http://directdemocracyireland.ie/author/ben/[/QUOTE]

    I would dearly love to see him win, and I think it would a good start for the country to try and get back to some semblance of normality, however I am a long time around and quite honestly, we still have not got away from dynasty politics in this country, whether the vote may be either a vote to keep a seat in ones family, just for the sake of continuing the family business, or purely a sympathy vote, on which I would nearly bet the farm that that is what the government is banking on.


  • #913
    darkhorse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭darkhorse


    mango salsa wrote: »
    Hopefully not. He supports Sean Quinn and has links to UKIP.

    And this is a bad thing, why?


  • #914
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Am I the only poster who thinks that MadsL is not abroad at all.
    I think he's right here in Ireland and follows a party in power.
    We have quite a few of them on here.

    Well that slander is easily dealt with.

    Pow! Right in the yesterdays paper with your post in the background, and right hook of that paper with the rather cloudy view of the mountains. Looks like we may have rain at last. That look like Ireland to you?
    http://imgur.com/a/1XiQ0


  • #915
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    darkhorse wrote: »
    And this is a bad thing, why?

    *cough* please, I have to wipe my screen now.


  • #916
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Bullseye1 wrote: »
    Your past time appears to consist of writing and complaining along with whining.

    Yes. I try and get things done or at least brought to public light. They may not be big things, although I am quite proud of this one.

    You posted a massive list of things you are aggrieved about, but you can't really be bothered to find out who is responsible and write them a simple email.

    Apathy, the Irish disease. Worse, the unending tearing down of anyone who stands up and trys to change things, and I admit I am harsh on those who try to simply mislead others (like that spoofer Ben Gilroy or Ming) - You will never change Ireland unless you actually stand up and stop accepting everyting thrown at you.

    Now the reason I support this tax is because it generally affects those who played the property gamble and because it is not a poll tax, which I opposed and refused under Thatcher. It also leaves renters alone which sits with how the crash played out.

    It isn't perfect, but I'd like to hear alternatives from those opposed.

    Now just to clear up the doubts, I bought in the US, mortgage fixed for 30 years, property taxes $2500 a year. I bought because values were very depressed but starting to rise and renting here is way overpriced.


  • #917
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    MadsL wrote: »
    Well that slander is easily dealt with.

    Pow! Right in the yesterdays paper with your post in the background, and right hook of that paper with the rather cloudy view of the mountains. Looks like we may have rain at last. That look like Ireland to you?
    http://imgur.com/a/1XiQ0

    Its Mr White.


    How's Jessie?


  • #918
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    SamHall wrote: »
    Its Mr White.


    How's Jessie?

    Oh wow, is Breaking Bad filmed here, I never knew. :rolleyes:

    How's the leprechauns these days?


  • #919
    clairefontaine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,390 ✭✭✭clairefontaine


    MadsL wrote: »
    Yes. I try and get things done or at least brought to public light. They may not be big things, although I am quite proud of this one.

    You posted a massive list of things you are aggrieved about, but you can't really be bothered to find out who is responsible and write them a simple email.

    Apathy, the Irish disease. Worse, the unending tearing down of anyone who stands up and trys to change things, and I admit I am harsh on those who try to simply mislead others (like that spoofer Ben Gilroy or Ming) - You will never change Ireland unless you actually stand up and stop accepting everyting thrown at you.

    Now the reason I support this tax is because it generally affects those who played the property gamble and because it is not a poll tax, which I opposed and refused under Thatcher. It also leaves renters alone which sits with how the crash played out.

    It isn't perfect, but I'd like to hear alternatives from those opposed.

    Now just to clear up the doubts, I bought in the US, mortgage fixed for 30 years, property taxes $2500 a year. I bought because values were very depressed but starting to rise and renting here is way overpriced.

    Ireland has too many double taxes and no accountability for them. The tax money is going into a blackhole, plus people are paying all sorts of other taxes, usc and prsi, crazy taxes at the pump, motor tax, school, water tax, poop tax, school uniforms and voluntary contributions. Next there will be savings tax, child maintenance tax, spousal maintenance tax, elevated court fees, you name it.

    Take the plastic bag tax. Do any of us know where that revenue goes to?

    I agree with everything else you said though. But it's hard to change anything here. It's climbing an ice mountain.

    And by the way, I'm not a homeowner. I never believed in the crap they were selling for half a million and knew it was a scam. That doesn't mean I also don't smell another scam brewing.


  • #920
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    clairefontaine wrote: »
    Take the plastic bag tax. Do any of us know where that revenue goes to?.

    Yes, we do.
    they are ring fenced into an environment fund operated by the
    Department of the Environment, Heritage and Local Government, to be used for
    defraying the costs of administration of the levy and the support and promotion of a variety of environmental programs.

    The plastic bag tax is one of the most popularly supported taxes in Europe.

    The most popular tax in Europe? Lessons from the Irish plastic bags levy

    And if you think Irish taxes are bad, US taxes are so complex it is next to impossible to complete your own tax return, you have to have a tax accountant do it, even if you work a PAYE job.


  • #921
    Bullseye1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,730 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    You honestly believe that taxes are ring fenced? LOL.

    Again with assumptions posters have done nothing to challenge the establishment.

    Since you are now a home owner best of luck. You will see that it wasn't an evil decision than many on here believe it to be.


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  • #922
    darkhorse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭darkhorse


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Very poor candidate. Poor speaker too.

    Yeah, your right. She's perfect for FG.


  • #923
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Bullseye1 wrote: »
    Again with assumptions posters have done nothing to challenge the establishment.

    I've offered you an opportunity to explain what you have done, but that appears to not spur you to share.

    You posted a long list of things that piss you off, do yourself a favour, and the nation, and write at least one email of complaint. Let us know how you get on.


  • #924
    clairefontaine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,390 ✭✭✭clairefontaine


    The problem Madsl is the people who have the get up and go to write emails and be persistent with the inevitable blockades you are met with etc, literaly do - get up and go - to the US, the UK, Australia and Canada.

    That is why nothing will ever change here.


  • #925
    Bullseye1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,730 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    MadsL wrote: »
    I've offered you an opportunity to explain what you have done, but that appears to not spur you to share.

    You posted a long list of things that piss you off, do yourself a favour, and the nation, and write at least one email of complaint. Let us know how you get on.

    Again with assumptions that emails or letters have not been written. Why in gods name would anyone reproduce their emails on here? You have heard of private and confidential and the concept of diplomacy? Look how that worked out for auld Ming.


  • #926
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Bullseye1 wrote: »
    You honestly believe that taxes are ring fenced? LOL.

    I am not naive, but I'm clearly not as cynical as you. Why not actually have a read of the Auditor General's audit report and then decide.

    http://www.environ.ie/en/Environment/Waste/EnvironmentFund/PublicationsDocuments/FileDownLoad,32198,en.pdf


  • #927
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Bullseye1 wrote: »
    Again with assumptions that emails or letters have not been written. Why in gods name would anyone reproduce their emails on here? You have heard of private and confidential and the concept of diplomacy? Look how that worked out for auld Ming.

    So you have written emails. To RTE? To Ministers? Why so coy about them?


  • #928
    Bullseye1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,730 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    Again with assumptions that I haven't read that document.

    I did find your statement about purchasing in the us and that prices were starting to rise and rents were overpriced. The exact conditions that lead to the property bubble here. People got frightened by rising property prices and their mind was made up they had to get onto the property ladder just as you have.
    Unfortunately that lifetime fixed mortgage does not exist here.


  • #929
    Bullseye1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,730 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    MadsL wrote: »
    So you have written emails. To RTE? To Ministers? Why so coy about them?

    Why would anyone write to RTE unless you were revealing corruption? And then there are probably more legitimate journalists one could have written too. Of course I've written to politicians on different matters of concern. I've provided professional services for people living in substandard accommodation and have on many occasions taken on local authorities who have been negligent in their duty of care, and no I'm not a lawyer or solicitor. These matters are of a private nature and have no place for boards.


  • #930
    darkhorse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭darkhorse


    MadsL wrote: »



    Sell up and rent if it is that onerous.

    Sell up for less than half it value. Clever. WTF, are you attending the Bernie Madoff school of economics over there.


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  • #931
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,787 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Bullseye1 wrote: »
    Again with assumptions that I haven't read that document.

    I did find your statement about purchasing in the us and that prices were starting to rise and rents were overpriced. The exact conditions that lead to the property bubble here. People got frightened by rising property prices and their mind was made up they had to get onto the property ladder just as you have.
    Unfortunately that lifetime fixed mortgage does not exist here.

    Hundreds of thousands of them were that frightened that they decided that they better get two or three houses. And one in Bulgaria as well just for good measure.


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