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  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    squats x 3
    140
    140
    150
    150
    160
    160

    bench x 3
    100 x 6 sets

    bender rows x3
    90 x 6 sets

    dips
    20,15,6


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    imnothim wrote: »
    squats


    confookinditioning - stolen from crossfit and completed with equally proposperus tekkers.
    40kg bar - power clean, front squat, push press, back squat, push press, touch and go again x 7
    i done four rounds with 60 sec rests

    Before Crossfit people just called them barbell complexes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    I know but if I called it a bar complex I'd have some one on sayin " you stole that from my box, it's called a big bear wod and we always go amrap to the max brah"
    On the Internet someone always knows better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    imnothim wrote: »
    it's called a big bear wod

    Sounds like Gordon Buchanan after the watershed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    planned 3 complexes for today, so 9 rounds balls to the wall and nowt else, i was going to do some squats as a warm up and then fooked it all out the window and done

    100kg back squat x 41 rep pb

    it wasnt easy but the form was good all the way through and kept the bum low too. my hands and lungs gave up in the late 30's but id be confident in sayin my legs would be well able to get close to 50 reps, i will get 50 reps soon though. picking a number is also a complete mindfook but thats life.

    db complex - 3 rounds, smoke coming out of my arse. stopped.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Edwardius


    imnothim wrote: »
    100kg back squat x 41 rep pb

    I think you should have a few shots of whiskey and a good long stare into the distance after that!


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    Edwardius wrote: »
    I think you should have a few shots of whiskey and a good long stare into the distance after that!

    im having serious problems trying to figure out why i stopped at 41, nothing good is going to come of adding whiskey and time to think into the equation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,265 ✭✭✭COH


    imnothim wrote: »
    100kg back squat x 41 rep pb

    Tidy 41RM


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    COH wrote: »
    Tidy 41RM

    ha, just stuck it into a 1rm calculator and got an error code.breaking technology pb


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,265 ✭✭✭COH


    imnothim wrote: »
    ha, just stuck it into a 1rm calculator and got an error code.breaking technology pb

    236.5kg :cool:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    COH wrote: »
    236.5kg :cool:

    your machine is about 50kg out...


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    squats 5x5 @ 150

    bench 5x5 @ 100

    dip+bent row s/set
    15 + 90kg x 5
    15 + 90kg x 5
    10 + 90kg x 5


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    i got to the gym today and 6 fooken squat racks out of 7 were closed, and probably will be for a week. the remaining rack was occupied by some one doing ... well it doesnt matter what they were doing.
    so my session was shat on from a height, i decided to test my deadlift after a warm up...

    squats
    3's up to 140kg and back down to 100kg

    oh press
    60kg 5x5

    deads - current 1rm 215kg from feb 2012
    140 x 3
    160 x 3
    170 x 2
    180 x 1
    190 x 1
    200 x 1
    210 x 1
    220 x 1 +5 pb
    i put on a belt here
    230 x 1 +15 pb
    240 x 1 +25 pb
    250 f x 2 - i got this over my knee on the first attempt, i feel the reason i missed it is because of the belt, i never wear one and found it really uncomfortable in my lower ribs where it was digging in, i know thats a fairly watery excuse.
    the second attempt i went straight back, no rest kept the belt on, so that was a stupid decision.
    i think i might invest in a belt and wear it training for a bit to get used to it and then go again.
    anyway 25kg in a year for a fat lad is ok by me.

    belt recommendations anybody?


  • Registered Users Posts: 40 immigant


    100x41 and then 250xdouble fail.

    This is my new favourite log because you're not right in the head. Hardy fat lads for the win


  • Registered Users Posts: 40 immigant


    I think you'd probably do alright on the bare-knuckle boxing circuit


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    keep getting hit untill the other lads so tired that i can push him over, it might be a runner.

    hardy fat lads for the win - thats going on a teeshirt


  • Registered Users Posts: 435 ✭✭Turbo_diesel


    imnothim wrote: »
    i got to the gym today and 6 fooken squat racks out of 7 were closed, and probably will be for a week. the remaining rack was occupied by some one doing ... well it doesnt matter what they were doing.
    so my session was shat on from a height, i decided to test my deadlift after a warm up...

    squats
    3's up to 140kg and back down to 100kg

    oh press
    60kg 5x5

    deads - current 1rm 215kg from feb 2012
    140 x 3
    160 x 3
    170 x 2
    180 x 1
    190 x 1
    200 x 1
    210 x 1
    220 x 1 +5 pb
    i put on a belt here
    230 x 1 +15 pb
    240 x 1 +25 pb
    250 f x 2 - i got this over my knee on the first attempt, i feel the reason i missed it is because of the belt, i never wear one and found it really uncomfortable in my lower ribs where it was digging in, i know thats a fairly watery excuse.
    the second attempt i went straight back, no rest kept the belt on, so that was a stupid decision.
    i think i might invest in a belt and wear it training for a bit to get used to it and then go again.
    anyway 25kg in a year for a fat lad is ok by me.

    belt recommendations anybody?

    Jesus 240 Deadlift not bad! :D What's your b/w at the minute?

    If your lookin for a belt https://liftinglarge.3dcartstores.com/mobile/product.asp?itemid=245

    Got this myself before Christmas. Does the job for the minute.
    https://www.strengthshop.co.uk/powerlifting-belts/strengthshop-10mm-double-prong-buckle-belt.html

    I reckon you should enter a meet!


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    104 with a big dinner waiting to come out


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    i had planned starting this on mon for 6 weeks but i wont make it, and work kept me away from testing squat last night so i made today the day.

    the only variation iv made is a second set of squats.

    BEHIND NECK PRESS
    3 x 12 @ 40kg

    SQUATS
    2 x 20 @ 110kg

    PULLOVER
    1 x 20 with 15kg plate

    BENCH
    3 x 12 @ 80kg

    BENTOVER ROW
    3 x 12 @ 60kg

    DEADLIFT
    1 x 15 @ 120kg

    PULLOVER
    1 x 20 with 15kg plate

    alll the weight today was picked fairly conservatively cos i havent done a lot of volume stuff recentley, this first week might be a test run to gauge weights.
    the only thing that was comfortable was the rows, and maybe the deadlift can go to 130kg . the 2 presses were hard going especially the behind neck pressing cos i always lift in front. i find with volume stuff after the initial shock of long sets you progress weight wise fairly sharpish.

    those pullovers are magical btw.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    work is upsetting training in a big way the last few days. i might give it up.
    im keeping rest to a min during sets and between movements - 90-120 secs tops.

    BEHIND NECK PRESS
    3 x 12 @ 45kg

    SQUATS
    2 x 20 @ 110kg

    PULLOVER x 20

    BENCH
    3 x 12 @ 80kg

    BENTOVER ROW
    3 x 12 @ 70kg

    DEADLIFT
    1 x 15 @ 130kg

    PULLOVER x 20

    one more session at more or less whats above and then il start pushing.
    deads are handy so i might fire on a second set, squats can take a bump up im thinking 120kg, and bench to 85kg.


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    power cleans - doubles between 80+90 kg, about 15 sets

    front squats -

    3's from 70 -130kg

    130 x 3
    140 x 2
    155 x 2 +5 pb
    160 x 1 pb fail 2nd
    165 x 1 i got it to the ground handy enough...


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    i added a 2nd deadlift set today
    BEHIND NECK PRESS
    3 x 12 @ 45kg

    SQUATS
    2 x 20 @ 110kg

    PULLOVER x 20

    BENCH
    3 x 12 @ 80kg

    BENTOVER ROW
    3 x 12 @ 70kg

    DEADLIFT
    2 x 15 @ 130kg

    PULLOVER x 20

    everything felt good, squats to 115 on monday. hopefully work will let me hit it mon-wed-fri.


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    sa vage doms in my lower back today. i told people in the gym and they didnt care.

    b.n.press 50kg x 12,9,10

    squats 115kg x 20,20

    pullovers x 20

    bench 80kg x 12,12,12

    row 70kg x 12,12,10

    dead 140kg x 15

    pullovers x 20

    deads felt so sh1t, i was never doing 2 sets so upped it to 140. i cant get used to wearing a belt either, it keeps pinching my fatness.
    squats were good but considerably tougher with only an extra 5kg, i can see double sets getting dropped as the programme goes on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭token


    imnothim wrote: »
    i cant get used to wearing a belt either, it keeps pinching my fatness.

    Try one of the skinnier weightlifting belts you won't get as much support from one as a powerlifting belt but its a lot less awkward and for me doesn't feel like I'm going to break a rib. That or try a velcro belt somewhere in between the support and awkwardness of the other two belts.


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    power snatchis - 40-65 x3s, 70+60 x2s

    bench - 60,80,90,100 x5s, 110 x2, 115 x1, 120 xfaaaaaaaaailure

    spent an hour then carrying platforms + hammerstrenght racks around. im getting the impression that the gym might resemble a gym again soon.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    b.n press 45 x 12,12,12

    squat 115 x 20,20

    pullovers x 20

    bench 80 x 10,12,12

    bender row 70 x 12,12,12

    deads 140 x 15,15

    pullovers x 20

    squats were a bit of a head battle, i was looking for excuses tbh. by the time i got around to the deads though i was flyin, i recorded the 1st set and it looked fairly strong, lots of speed with no drop off during the set. set 2 was the same.

    once again pullovers = magic


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    pull ups
    5,4,5 . added green band 5+5

    powacleans
    40 + 50 , 5x2
    60 + 65 , 3x3
    70 , 2x5
    75 , 1x5
    80 , 1x3
    i went every 30seconds on these, cardio style.

    bench x5's
    60 - 60 - 80 - 90 - 100 - 100 - 100


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    b.n press 45 x 12,12,12

    squat 115 x 20,20

    pullovers x 20

    bench 80 x 12,12,12

    bender row 70 x 12,12,12

    deads 140 x 15,15

    pullovers x 20

    everything needs to move up now. the squats are going to start getting horrible. on a lighter note the gym is closed for a week. i need to be rehoused for 7 days if anybody has any suggestions.


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    i ran about 40km in the last week but the gym's back today. the restlesness from not training has meant iv decided to throw in coan/phillipi d.l programme and brad gillingham raw bench on the same day while still hitting 20rep squats prog 3 days. i might have to tailor the d.l on one of the days to stay uncrippled, also the 20reps only have about 4 weeks left so il switch back to strenght then.

    iv calculated the d.l programme to go from 240kg to 280kg, so its going to destroy me.

    bench
    w/u 3's 60,70,80,90,100,105

    107.5 x 3

    100 x 5,5,5

    deads
    w/u 3's 110,150,180 . 200x2

    210 x 2

    zpeed deadz
    167.5 x 3 x 8 with 90sec between sets

    assistance cicruit x 3 with 120sec rest
    stiff leg dead x 8 - 70kg
    bent row x 8 - 70kg
    reverse grip pulldown x 8 - 55kg
    good morning x 8 - bar

    mother of god, that was the introductory week.

    i was the only person in the gym so i had to hit the guns while i had the chance, love the pump.


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    domdoms, my lower back was really tight last night and this morning.

    1 squirt deep heat + 1 scoop protein + 1 scoop casein + 600ml milk = relief

    i put in 45 min on the treadmill, real handy and i felt brand new after. win.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    b.n press 45 x 12,12,10

    squat 120 x 20,20 - rep p.b these are getting tough

    pullovers x 20

    bench 85 x 12,12,11 - these felt ok, i should be up to 90 by the end of next week

    bender row 70 x 12,12,12

    deads 140 x 15 - i dropped a set and stayed at 140 to try and stay fresh for deadlift day

    overall im still feeling the effects of sat, not with doms as such but i just felt so sluggish today. i was glad to finish. the gym feels like a new gym to, there wasnt the usual buzz down there tonight. maybe im just a bit grumpy today.


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    pull ups 5,4,5 added green band 5,5

    over head press - loads of warm ups - 60 x 5 x 3. 65 x 2. 70 x 2

    dips 5, 5, 5 +5kg, 5 +10kg, 5 +15kg

    latpulldowns x5's - 30,40,50,55,60,60,60

    me and a brah decided top do a curl rack run, sets of 5 e/s, rest = brah's work, 10kg all the way to 38kg in 2kg intervals.

    the form after the 20kg mark was bad on a level that only the participants could appreciate.


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    i was late + tired so i cut tonight short

    behind neck press 45kg 3x12

    squats 120kg 2x20

    bench 85kg 3x12


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    im going back to strenght stuff next week, the 20r squats is grand but the gym being closed a couple of weeks ago fooked my momentum so i need a restart. i havent looked at my back squat in a while so i tested today to set me up for the next while.

    squat - pb185kg
    60x5
    80x4
    100x3
    120x3
    140x2
    160x2
    170x2
    180x1
    190x1
    200x1
    205x1
    210 missed, got up from the bottom about 3" but i leaned onto my toes enough just to take all my speed out. its defo there in the legs i just need to sharpen up my tech.
    big buzz with a 20kg pb.

    benchz
    x3's - 60,70,80,90,100,105,107.5
    x5's - 100,100,100

    over head pressz
    3x5 60kg

    dipsz
    3x5 + 16kg kettle bell


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    coan d.l week 2

    50x5
    70x4
    100x3
    130x3
    150x3
    170x2
    190x2
    210x2
    main lift
    225x2rep pb

    speed deads
    programme says 182.5 x3 x8, i dont know what the fook was in my mind but i unknowingly set up 202.5 and cracked on to the point that about 3 sets in i was getting so pissed off with how hard the 182.5 triples were going that i absolutley tore the reps up out of pure spite.
    when i was finished the last set somebody pointed out my miscalcution and that they noticed it very early but didnt want to put me off cos it looked good.

    202.5 x3 x8 rep pb in there too

    assistance of 70kg s.l.d x8, 70kg row x8, 40kg pulldown x8, bar g.m's x8 all for 3 sets


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    5.5km plod, no doms but my legs are on strike


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    squats

    loads of reps up to 100, then long pauses at 100x5.
    x3's - 120, 140, 150, 160
    x2's - 170, 175, 175
    x1's - 180, 180

    bench

    x5's - 60, 70
    x3's - 80, 90, 100, 105, 110 rep pb
    x5's - 102.5, 102.5, 102.5

    ohp

    x5's - 60, 60, 65
    x3's - 70, 70

    dips
    +16kg x4
    +12kg x4
    +10kg x4 - these were meant to be 16kg 5x5. they werent.


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    squats

    120 x3
    140,150,160 all x2
    170 x3
    170 x3
    170 x3
    180 x1
    180 x1
    180 x1
    120 x20

    bench

    60,80,90,100,105,110 all x3
    3x10 @ 85kg


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    i totally mishandled all my training in the last 7/8 days with coan dl still to come. im glad though cos iv a good idea of where i am and where i want to go over the next few weeks. i want to start working in or around 200kg+ on squats by the summer, benching in the 120's and max out d.l somewhere between 260-300 ( while being disapointed with 260 ). also eat my way down to 100ish, from a less than muscular 106.
    today i was spent but put in a decent shift but it was a struggle.

    squats
    60kg pause(ten sec pause) squats + fast squats x 10 of each in 5's

    100kg pause squats - i love these

    120 x3
    140 x3
    150 x2
    160 x2
    170 x2
    180 x2
    180 x2
    190 x1
    140 x1 - drop set, lol, i was fooked with a capital fook

    bench
    60,70,80,90,100 all x3
    110 x5 rep pb
    110 x5
    110 x3
    120 x1 pb i tried a 5x5 @ 110 and failed so this was my consolation

    ohp
    60 x3
    60 x3
    70 x2
    75 x2
    80 x3 pushed it
    60 x5

    pull ups
    none +0kg


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    coan d.l week 3

    60 x5
    100 x3
    140 x2
    170 x2
    200 x2
    220 x1
    230 x1

    237.5kg x2 rep pb
    these flew up, the first was tidier





    195 x3
    195 x3
    195 x3
    195 x3
    195 x3
    195 x3
    again these were handy enough




    circuit - 8reps of sld, bentrow, pulldown, gm's x3


    next weeks going to be some craic because of the ridiculous figures i put in to the prog's calculator. i cant wait.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 435 ✭✭Turbo_diesel


    imnothim wrote: »
    coan d.l week 3

    60 x5
    100 x3
    140 x2
    170 x2
    200 x2
    220 x1
    230 x1

    237.5kg x2 rep pb
    these flew up, the first was tidier





    195 x3
    195 x3
    195 x3
    195 x3
    195 x3
    195 x3
    again these were handy enough




    circuit - 8reps of sld, bentrow, pulldown, gm's x3


    next weeks going to be some craic because of the ridiculous figures i put in to the prog's calculator. i cant wait.


    Well done on the Deadlifts. Looks like there is a good bit more left in the tank anyway. How many days a week do you plan on training now & what sort of programming are you doing on the non Deadlift days? You reckon if you plan on pushing weight on the deads & try cutting weight at the same time that it will kill you? :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    Well done on the Deadlifts. Looks like there is a good bit more left in the tank anyway. How many days a week do you plan on training now & what sort of programming are you doing on the non Deadlift days? You reckon if you plan on pushing weight on the deads & try cutting weight at the same time that it will kill you? :)

    thanks, yeah id say 250 isnt impossible in the next week or so.
    im doing 3 days + deadlift day, next week il have to juggle it a bit for work so prob 2+d.l.
    im not cutting as such, just trying to cut out some of the ****e i eat over the next 3/4 months, this shouldnt affect traing to much cos it will be slow. i want to be sitting around 100kg all the time so if i do enter a comp i wont have to work to hard to make the 100class.
    programming for squat and bench are a bit makeitupasigoalong at the moment, i might consult an expert in the next while for some advice.


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    squats
    120 x3
    140 x3
    150 x2
    170 x1
    180 x3
    180 x2
    180 x2
    60 with 5sec pause x5
    these felt so bad today.

    bench
    60 x3
    80 x3
    100 x3
    110 x3
    115 x3 ( spotter came in a bit on the last )
    115 x3

    bent rows
    60 x5
    80 x5
    100 x3
    100 x3
    100 x3
    100 x3

    then for some reason
    bandbencharoo's sets of 5, up to 50kg, probably 6-8 sets.


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    i was feeling very ghey today, i might give squats a rest for a week or maybe a day.
    i also done some fooken thing to my elbow/shoulder/arm area with them band resisted bench stupidity on monday which was really sore today on the lowering part of the bench. at least it wasnt a sniffle and i could carry on training.

    squats
    120 x3
    140 x3
    155 x3
    170 x2
    170 x2
    170 x2

    bench
    60 x5
    80 x4
    100 x3
    110 x2
    115 x3
    115 x1 , i got an owwy
    100 x5
    100 x5
    100 x5

    dips +20kg 3 sets of 5

    ohp 60kg 3x3

    15min full belt on the crosstrainer, level 3, absolutely owned it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    coan d.l week 4

    60 x5 x2
    80 x3
    100 x3
    120 x3
    140 x3
    150 x3
    170 x2
    190 x2
    205 x1
    220 x1
    235 x1
    245 x1 5kg pb

    252.5kg x1,12.5kg pb
    i was so close on the second rep, if i had of stood and reset i reckon id have got it. happy with the first rep



    210 x3 rep pb
    210 x3
    210 x3
    210 x3
    210 x3


    then assistance circuit x3 + 15min xtrainer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    squats
    60 x5
    80 x5
    100 x5
    120 x3
    140 x3
    155 x2
    170 x2 x6 - with a skinny belt

    bench
    60 x5
    80 x5
    90 x5
    100 x3
    105 x3
    112.5 x3
    117.5 x3
    110 x5
    110 x5
    110 x3



    bent rows 100kg x5 x4

    dips bw 5x5

    pull downs x4's 80, 90, 95, 100, 110

    x-trainer - 15 min of amazingness


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    squats
    60 x5
    80 x5
    100 x3
    120 x2
    130 x2
    140 x2
    150 x1
    160 x1
    170 x3 x6

    bench
    60 x3
    80 x3
    90 x3
    100 x3
    110 x3 x3
    100 x5 x2

    ohp
    60 x3
    65 x3
    70 x3 x2
    75 x3 - pushed

    powershrugs
    100 x3 x3
    120 x3 x2

    frontsquats
    90 x5 x2
    95 x5 x2
    100 x5 x2


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    i had to fit my d.l work in today, i didnt want to skip squat+bench either so decided to do all 3. which was a stupid decision. squat+bench went fine but the d.l really bombed. every rep seemed to be fighting back.

    squat
    60 x5
    80 x5
    100 x3
    120 x3
    140 x2
    150 x2
    160 x2
    170 x2 x6

    iv followed the russian squat prog this week to see what its like, and im enjoying it, although this is the intro/handy week. il stick at it now and see how hard it gets.

    bench
    60 x2
    80 x2
    100 x2
    105 x1 x2
    110 x1 x2
    115 x1 x2
    120 x1 x2
    125 - aaaargh im trapped. i got saved.

    dips
    +15kg 5x5

    deadlifts
    60 x5
    100 x5
    140 x3
    180 x3
    200 x2
    210 x1
    225 x3 x3 - i missed the last rep
    185 x3 x3

    i didnt get a proper warm up in here, i rushed it because i was tired and the session suffered as a result. and i skipped the assistance entirely, looking back now a couple of hours later thats a bit disapointing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭imnothim


    i felt like i left a bit a bit in the tank yesterday so i had another run at it today.

    deads
    60 x5
    80 x3
    100 x3
    120 x3
    140 x2
    160 x2
    180 x2
    200 x2
    210 x2
    220 x2
    185 x3 x3
    i tried to be cute yesterday and do a double session that i wasnt able for.i felt so much sharper today, but managed to grind out enough yesterday to make myself have to draw a line at the 220x2 rather than hitting a 225 3x3. i should learn something from this.

    powershrugs
    145kg 3x5

    pulldown
    loads of different types + grips from 60-100kg.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 769 ✭✭✭Da Za


    Good training man - Strong.

    That 252.5 would'nt pass as you're hitching - I have had the same problem (diff reason though) but have rectified it. Just be patient with the pull and you'll be good.

    I'll be in on Thursday Night to pull if you're around.


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