Garda convicted of assaulting prisoner - 4 other Garda in same room "saw nothing"

GRMA · 12-03-2013 04:46PM #1

Disgraceful, all involved should be sacked, you'd wonder how often the likes of this goes on with officers covering up for one another - with the revelations about the penalty points being wiped as well as the vindictive arrest of Clare Daly(and the leak of it immediately to the media by a Garda) its obvious that there is a problem in the police force which is tarnishing its reputation and the reputation of the vast majority of decent people in it

In convicting Gda Morgan, Judge Mitchell said he found the evidence "disturbing to say the least" where gardai had "looked away at that moment and were not seeing or hearing".

He added: "It brings to mind 'see, speak and hear no evil'."

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/probe-after-garda-is-convicted-of-assault-29121350.html

Death and Taxes · 12-03-2013 04:49PM

Shocking case, and hopefully the Appeal Court will uphold the sentence imposed. Very reminicent of the case in Wexford last year.
Odds are no one will be sacked.
It is a pity because most Gardai are decent people doing a difficult job and pubicity like this just makes the public trust them less and makes their job harder.

maximoose · 12-03-2013 04:52PM

"It brings to mind 'see, speak and hear no evil'."

Aw man, I love that movie!

Dave: Who are you talking to?
Wally: I'm talking to you, you prick.
Dave: Why don't you look me in the eye and say that?
Wally: I would if I could but I can't, I'm blind.
Dave: You're blind?
Wally: Yes I'm blind, what are you ****ing deaf?
Dave: Yes, I'm ****ing deaf!
Wally: You're really deaf?
Dave: I'm really deaf.
Wally: Then how do you know what I'm saying?
Dave: Because I'm reading your lips now you want the job or not?

Dicky Pride · 12-03-2013 04:53PM

Your man sounds like he deserved a slap.

FTA69 · 12-03-2013 04:54PM

Sure the cops are always kicking the sh*t out of people to be fair. I can't understand how things like this become big news because it's a weekly occurrence.

snubbleste · 12-03-2013 04:54PM

I thought An Garda Síochána discriminated against blind persons being recruited

GRMA · 12-03-2013 04:59PM

FTA69 wrote: »

Sure the cops are always kicking the sh*t out of people to be fair. I can't understand how things like this become big news because it's a weekly occurrence.

Big news because its very rare it gets to court, never mind a conviction

petethebrick · 12-03-2013 05:05PM

Dicky Pride wrote: »

Your man sounds like he deserved a slap.

You sound like you deserve a slap!

FTA69 · 12-03-2013 05:08PM

GRMA wrote: »

Big news because its very rare it gets to court, never mind a conviction

True, and even when it does get to prominence you have eejits saying how it's great altogether when the Guards beat people up. Ironically it's usually the so called law and order brigade who condone the cops assaulting people in the barracks.

Turtyturd · 12-03-2013 05:13PM

Any guard convicted of an offence should get double the normal sentence. Job obviously attracts a certain type of person who likes having the power that goes with it, if they abuse it they should face more severe consequences...although getting them to face any consequences would be a start.

HondaSami · 12-03-2013 05:15PM

Disgraceful behaviour from all involved, AGS can do without gardai who cannot treat people with a little respect,that garda deserves to be sacked imo, not sure about the others, reprimanded for sure.

krudler · 12-03-2013 05:15PM

Man drink driving hits pedestrian.

"Pity the guards didnt catch him and give him a hiding!"

Guards give man caught drink driving a hiding.

"Outrageous! sack them all!"

oh AH, you contrary wench you.

Clandestine · 12-03-2013 05:17PM

These garda's in this story are not much better than the criminals they go after.

They want to impose law and order... except if its someone they know. Just like when a yob says he "won't grass on his mate"....

Turtyturd · 12-03-2013 05:18PM

Oh Krudler, you generalising wench you.

Grand Moff Tarkin · 12-03-2013 05:20PM

Pity the cops are not so tough when it comes down to taking on the real crime gangs up and down the country.

listermint · 12-03-2013 05:22PM

Drunk driver bangs arm off radiator.

Woop Dee Dooo.... Id expect this sort of thing to happen to me if i was driving at speed drunk and called every Guard in the room a f'n this and an f'n that.

Good enough for him, OR me if i was as pure stupid.

Clandestine · 12-03-2013 05:25PM

listermint wrote: »

Drunk driver bangs arm off radiator.

Woop Dee Dooo.... Id expect this sort of thing to happen to me if i was driving at speed drunk and called every Guard in the room a f'n this and an f'n that.

Good enough for him, OR me if i was as pure stupid.

Gards are supposed to set an example. Letting his emotions get the better of him and acting out like this against a suspect does not reflect on them well one bit.

awec · 12-03-2013 05:25PM

Drunk driver. Meh.

listermint · 12-03-2013 05:28PM

Mayoman911 wrote: »

Gards are supposed to set an example. Letting their emotions get the better of them and acting out like this against a suspect does not reflect on them well one bit.

Meh,

Scumbags have no respect for authority over here anyway. Wouldnt get away with half the crap they give the guards in the US. Those lads would turn you upside down on your head quick fast.

HondaSami · 12-03-2013 05:28PM

Mayoman911 wrote: »

Gards are supposed to set an example. Letting their emotions get the better of them and acting out like this against a suspect does not reflect on them well one bit.

I'm sure you mean letting his temper get the better of him.

dave1982 · 12-03-2013 05:30PM

:cool:

Clandestine · 12-03-2013 05:31PM

HondaSami wrote: »

I'm sure you mean letting his temper get the better of him.

Yes, thats what I meant. I should have made that more clear in my post

Chuck Stone · 12-03-2013 05:44PM

If he can't control his temper to the point of assaulting someone who can't defend himself then he shouldn't be a cop.

Boombastic · 12-03-2013 05:55PM

The were probably watching Steve Wilkos on their Sky TV in the station, that's why they didn't see a thing

JustRoss23 · 12-03-2013 06:45PM

So what happens to that convicted guard now is he still working or on suspension? will he get the sack if he loses the appeal because it does not mention if hes suspended now ? hes a big hard man throwing a sly shot to someone unable to defend himself. wonder how hard he will be in prison;)

RustyNut · 12-03-2013 06:48PM

And the ones with vision and hearing impairment?

JustRoss23 · 12-03-2013 06:52PM

Garda Morgan denied claims that he had 'shoved Hodgins around'

Seems this is not the first time the guard has lost the cool.

Boombastic · 12-03-2013 06:55PM

RustyNut wrote: »

And the ones with vision and hearing impairment?

They'll have to go, they wouldn't pass the medical

Any of the following examples of medical conditions may be a bar to passing the medical exam:
Defective Vision: the vision standard required of a Garda trainee is not less than 6/18, 6/18 (correctable to 6/9, 6/12) unaided by glasses or contact lenses, with normal colour vision.
..................................
Defective Hearing
............

Also just to note, being overweight is also on that list, if the minister's looking to cut numbers it might be a good place to start :pac:

Cianos · 12-03-2013 07:05PM

krudler wrote: »

Man drink driving hits pedestrian.

"Pity the guards didnt catch him and give him a hiding!"

Guards give man caught drink driving a hiding.

"Outrageous! sack them all!"

oh AH, you contrary wench you.

AH isn't one person ye know.

Terrontress · 12-03-2013 07:05PM

Surely if you could assault at leisure, you'd choose something more vexing than this. None of what this guy would even mildly irritate. If you regularly assaulted on such grounds, work would be a terrible chore, having to punch, throw and rip all around you.

krudler · 12-03-2013 07:10PM

Cianos wrote: »

AH isn't one person ye know.

We are The Borg

Garda convicted of assaulting prisoner - 4 other Garda in same room "saw nothing"

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