Wheelchair user refused entry to Dublin Nightclub.

Lapin wrote: »

Pretty shítty how the word of one man has cost another his job.

Bolger should have been man enough to deal with this directly with the club in question in a dignified manner rather than whinging to the world about it on Facebook.

Why is everyone assuming the other bouncer's side of this story is true...?

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Why is everyone assuming the other bouncer's side of this story is true...?

Cos there's too many holes in the story.

Why go to a place that has that many stairs? What happened in those 45 minutes? is it really butter?

The man who commented on the status claiming to work with the doorman in question could have used more professional langauge than "you were being a smart ar$ed prick". It doesnt help his case.

I just went onto facebook. Plenty of my friends are posting it. It's really gone viral. That bouncer has lost his job and a nightclubs reputation has been destroyed. It'll probably be empty next weekend (Although, if it wasn't their fault, they shouldn't have backed down)

I wonder if there's security footage.

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Why is everyone assuming the other bouncer's side of this story is true...?

Well put it this way if I was in a wheelchair and I had to go downstairs to enter a cramped club and then go upstairs to use the toilet, I would not be going there. Would you?.

Grayson wrote: »

I just went onto facebook. Plenty of my friends are posting it. It's really gone viral. That bouncer has lost his job and a nightclubs reputation has been destroyed. It'll probably be empty next weekend (Although, if it wasn't their fault, they shouldn't have backed down)

I wonder if there's security footage.

Assuming that this was planned then that is pretty scary tbh!

the big question is how did he pull that hot totty! :eek:

the only injustice here is that she didn't go home with me!

orestes wrote: »

So you're just assuming that the door-staff were assholes about it?

I don't need to imagine that people who get refused from nightclubs for completely genuine reasons can be belligerent self-righteous arseholes, cos I know that they can be.

But neither of us has a shred of evidence to go on that either of us is right, but let's not let that get in the way of a witch-hunt eh?

I go out a lot, and on the basis of everything I've seen on nights out, the law of averages in my experience says you're far more likely to see people refused entry for no legitimate reason than the legitimate cases.
As I said, I dealt with this situation myself a few years ago and after asking the staff about me, the club got rid of the bouncer and apologised. His story was that I had been kicked out the week before (mistaken identity presumably), and e was incredibly rude and obnoxious when I asked him for any detail about it. As it happened I'd never been kicked out and the staff knew me well enough to vouch for me. Wrecked my night but at least he can't wreck anyone else's now.

I've seen this exact scenario happen to other people often enough. I also know a lot of very professional and polite bouncers. It's in everyone's interest that the gobsh!tes who give the whole profession a bad name are weeded out and the good ones can do their jobs, no?

orestes wrote: »

So you're just assuming that the door-staff were assholes about it?

I don't need to imagine that people who get refused from nightclubs for completely genuine reasons can be belligerent self-righteous arseholes, cos I know that they can be.

But neither of us has a shred of evidence to go on about what happened, but let's not let that get in the way of a witch-hunt eh?

fullgas wrote: »

From the OP it appears he threw a tantrum for 45min.

So? Should people who get refused entry for no obvious reason and with no explanation for it just shut up? This is exactly why up until recently, bouncers acted with total impunity.

Really is disgraceful that this sort of discrimination still goes on .

EoghanIRL wrote: »

Really is disgraceful that this sort of discrimination still goes on .

We don't know the full story so I can't agree with you on this.

orestes wrote: »

So based on a few bad experiences you are taking it for granted that all bouncers accused of acting unprofessionally are guilty until proven innocent?

The fact that he's been fired and the club has apologised would indicate that they had enough evidence against him. Again based on my own experience, bouncers don't get fired in most of these cases, public outcry or not.

orestes wrote: »

It's not discrimination. It's pragmatism.

Exactly. Orestes I think you might be more qualified to speak on the matter (I think you mentioned earlier on this thread that you were in a wheelchair for a while).

On a practical level, if you were in a wheelchair would you want to spend time in a bar where you needed to be carried up a set of stairs when 1) you just wanted to get in, 2) you need to use the bathroom and 3) to leave when you're done?

I know I wouldn't.

We don't know what the bouncer in question said to the chap in the wheelchair but what we have here is the online equivalent of somebody yelling 'Fire' in a crowded cinema without seeing any smoke.