Cheaters on Strava..

GreyEagle · 09-03-2013 11:53AM

dario28 wrote: »

From what I have seen around my area unless its a windy day in the right direction most KOM's are out of reach now -

Would be nice to somehow intergrate wind speed and direction to make results more realistic

I had a go at Bellewstown from the east, the easy way, with a strong tailwind. Made no difference, I was still last on the list.:(

Knobbly Tyres · 09-03-2013 01:42PM

theholyghost wrote: »

I've often joked about setting strava records in the car but I didn't think anyone would actually do it!

Same, I'd actually feel guilty doing it though.

Peterx · 09-03-2013 02:36PM

Equipment required for proper cheating on Strava;

A spreadsheet of the current KOM average speeds for your "spin"
a van and driver and a garmin device
a turbo trainer
you and your bike AND your heart rate monitor

simply set up the bike on the turbo in the back of the van, get the heartrate going at a believable high rate and start hoovering up those climbs just a few seconds quicker than the current KOMs.

much harder for lads to challenge you then:p

detones · 09-03-2013 03:40PM

Just broke my b#ll#x this morning trying to get somewhere respectable on a local segment around here. Respectable for me would be to get out of the bottom 50%. Had a nice tailwind so gave it a lash. Nearly launched my morning bagel and weatabix over the handle bars after took me around 20mins to recover. It then dawned on me I never turned Strava on my phone before I left. Ah ffs!!

Wishbone Ash · 09-03-2013 03:44PM

rab!dmonkey wrote: »

Strava will automatically create a segment the first time someone rides a categorised climb

Ah - does that explain all those "Unnamed Road Climb" segments?

I always wondered why someone would create a segment and then not name it.

Captain Havoc · 09-03-2013 03:48PM

dario28 wrote: »

From what I have seen around my area unless its a windy day in the right direction most KOM's are out of reach now -

Would be nice to somehow intergrate wind speed and direction to make results more realistic

I think there should also be a box to tick for individual effort or part of a group.

Wishbone Ash · 09-03-2013 03:57PM

dario28 wrote: »

From what I have seen around my area unless its a windy day in the right direction most KOM's are out of reach now -

Would be nice to somehow intergrate wind speed and direction to make results more realistic

Captain Havoc wrote: »

I think there should also be a box to tick for individual effort or part of a group.

And extra credit to those who have KOM's in popular segments. The rider who has a KOM on a segment ridden by 1,000 people is surely much better than the rider with a KOM on a segment used by one other person.

buffalo · 09-03-2013 04:15PM

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

And extra credit to those who have KOM's in popular segments. The rider who has a KOM on a segment ridden by 1,000 people is surely much better than the rider with a KOM on a segment used by one other person.

The schoolboy part of me enjoys grabbing those KOMs - "Terenure to home" and the like - just to prove what a big man I am. :cool:

Captain Havoc · 09-03-2013 04:18PM

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

And extra credit to those who have KOM's in popular segments. The rider who has a KOM on a segment ridden by 1,000 people is surely much better than the rider with a KOM on a segment used by one other person.

Both my KOMs are in France which I did while carrying luggage. I hope nobody on Strava goes down those roads as they won't be that difficult to take off me.

ashleey · 09-03-2013 09:50PM

You'll be fine. The French always crumble in a competitive environment. Flaky. Unless if course they are against the English.

jimm · 10-03-2013 02:32PM

Beasty wrote: »

(apparently he left the Garmin switched on on the bike which was on the car)

Cars are not the only mode of transport where cyclists forget to switch off their Garmins

http://www.strava.com/activities/2832571

Wishbone Ash · 10-03-2013 03:38PM

jimm wrote: »

Cars are not the only mode of transport where cyclists forget to switch off their Garmins

http://www.strava.com/activities/2832571

LOL

Time 4 hrs 54 mins
Elapsed time 980 hrs

GreyEagle · 11-03-2013 11:29AM

el tel wrote: »

How accurate are GPS receivers anyway? If they are +/- 50m sure that could add or remove 100m to any segment.

GPS accuracy depends on how many satellites are being received. 3 is minimum for navigation resulting in +/- 50m, 14 is usual maximum available. 7-8 sats will usually give you +/- 2m. Factors affecting accuracy can be tall buildings, underpasses/bridges, under trees and foliage particularly in summertime.

Best strategy is to find a 10km stretch of straight road in a wide open space. Do a few runs and recalibrate your cycle computer's wheel circumference setting. Use this as your yardstick for accuracy.

elnino23 · 10-04-2013 08:09PM

I have a guy on my strava feed only had his bike 2 weeks and has a strava ride with top speed of 83.9kmph! i questioned him on it and he said it was down a big hill, is that speed even possible down a hill? bear in mind this guy is pretty over weight and has been on the bike 3 times. the other reason i think its bull is that the top speed line flat lines, I've never ever seen a horizontal flat line on a strava speed graph. then he goes from 83 to stopped in a tiny space of time, he must have awesome brakes. or none left. is 83kmph possible?

Craig06 · 10-04-2013 08:14PM

It's possible to do that sort of speed. Look at the elevation on the ride and see if it was downhill.

Brad768 · 10-04-2013 08:20PM

83kph is possible, but the data that is following that speed isn't. As you said, it would be very difficult to flat line a speed graph down a hill and the jump back to 0 confirms that the Satilettes were bugging out. I have done 95kph for about 200m before on a flat road(according to strava)...twas great, only felt like 25kph

RossieMan · 10-04-2013 08:23PM

it's possible. His weight would actually help him go faster down a hill.

But to go over 60 km/h takes a lot of balls. Or something missing in your head.

it gets quite shaky and uncomfortable at 60, never mind 80.

elnino23 · 10-04-2013 08:24PM

I must be a really distrusting person. It was downhill but the massive acceleration starts on the slight climb plus it flat lines if it didnt flat line i woudn't be so suspicious i never saw a flat line on the speed graph before. plus the stop at the bottom is weird 4 mins doing 1kmph on a flat section then after the decent how would you slow that quick

elnino23 · 10-04-2013 08:26PM

RossieMan wrote: »

it's possible. His weight would actually help him go faster down a hill.

But to go over 60 km/h takes a lot of balls. Or something missing in your head.

it gets quite shaky and uncomfortable at 60, never mind 80.

Yeah i got to 58km/h and was freaking out, one pot hole and i thought I'd bite some tarmac hard

Plastik · 10-04-2013 08:44PM

Lads, HTFU for god sake.

The Noble Nudge · 10-04-2013 08:58PM

He could of **** himself at the bottom of hill and had to stop.....

Darkglasses · 10-04-2013 09:12PM

Just wondering, does anybody else feel like calling bull**** on the leader of the Spring Classics challenge? The mileage just seems way too big for one person to do alone.

elnino23 · 10-04-2013 09:18PM

Darkglasses wrote: »

Just wondering, does anybody else feel like calling bull**** on the leader of the Spring Classics challenge? The mileage just seems way too big for one person to do alone.

You mean the Guy in Australia? is he not doing some charity thing cycling round Australia?

Dubba · 10-04-2013 10:24PM

Its defiantly possible to hit 83kmph if the hill is long and steep enough, also heavier riders will descend quicker than light riders.

Wishbone Ash · 10-04-2013 10:49PM

elnino23 wrote: »

....with top speed of 83.9kmph! .........and has been on the bike 3 times.......

Dubba wrote: »

Its defiantly possible to hit 83kmph if the hill is long and steep enough

Possible but highly improbable for someone on their 3rd outing?

Zyzz · 10-04-2013 10:52PM

elnino23 wrote: »

I have a guy on my strava feed only had his bike 2 weeks and has a strava ride with top speed of 83.9kmph! i questioned him on it and he said it was down a big hill, is that speed even possible down a hill? bear in mind this guy is pretty over weight and has been on the bike 3 times. the other reason i think its bull is that the top speed line flat lines, I've never ever seen a horizontal flat line on a strava speed graph. then he goes from 83 to stopped in a tiny space of time, he must have awesome brakes. or none left. is 83kmph possible?

I hit 70kmph going down the sutton side of howth hill, probably had some more in me aswel and Im 100+kg, take that as you will. If I'm not mistaken someone has hit 80 going down that exact same hill

bcmf · 10-04-2013 11:01PM

Zyzz wrote: »

I hit 70kmph going down the sutton side of howth hill, probably had some more in me aswel and Im 100+kg, take that as you will. If I'm not mistaken someone has hit 80 going down that exact same hill

I have just joined Strava with the aim of getting one specific KOM.
Now I have 2 to aim for.
Thanks.

Zyzz · 10-04-2013 11:06PM

bcmf wrote: »

I have just joined Strava with the aim of getting one specific KOM.
Now I have 2.
Thanks.

And Im not even in the top 25..so good luck

Dubba · 10-04-2013 11:45PM

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Possible but highly improbable for someone on their 3rd outing?

Yeah see what you're saying, couldn't see someone on their 3rd outing having enough confidence to do that kinda speed.

seamus · 11-04-2013 09:20AM

Dubba wrote: »

Yeah see what you're saying, couldn't see someone on their 3rd outing having enough confidence to do that kinda speed.

Blind ignorance can be a powerful thing.

I was leading out a beginner's spin one day and at the end we descended Ballinascorney Hill. Gave the group a bit of a talk before we went down, just a warning about the steepness of the hill, don't brake while you corner, etc, and then I hammered off down the hill thinking I'd be way ahead.
Nope. One of the guys overtook me towards the end of the hill, and a couple of others weren't far behind me - mainly the guys who weren't wearing all the expensive gear.

One of the guys apparently struck the ground with his pedal not once, but twice, sparks and everything. It was his second or third time out on a proper spin.

83km/h is definitely more than possible on plenty of descents if you have the right conditions.

It would be odd for the speed to "flatline", as although you will hit a terminal velocity, you won't stay at this speed for more than a few seconds. It should just appear as a spike on strava rather than a line.

From the description of the ride it sounds like he lost GPS signal just as he came to the top of the climb, so the data is all over the place.

Cheaters on Strava..

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