Cheaters on Strava..

ian_rush

RobFowl wrote: »

Thanks
Un KOM'ed now :cool:

Silly action but didn't download after a spin on the cross bike yesterday and then did the Louth sportif today. Have lost all the data from the spin yesterday now but better than having a 79kph KOM :rolleyes:

upload it again and crop the previous days cycle, then you will have both up.

RobFowl

Beasty wrote: »

He has to do it nowadays, as he knows I'll name and shame based on his past "misdemeanors";)

You too are now on my list...........

quozl

RobFowl wrote: »

You too are now on my list...........

Your 'To-do' list?

Lusk_Doyle

Today I received the dreaded "Oh-oh" email. I took a look and it was for a KOM that I had near Stamullen but had forgotten about. Who did I lose it to, only a chap with the user name of "Absolute Fred". This must be a result of cheating, right? Right?

RobFowl

Lusk_Doyle wrote: »

Today I received the dreaded "Oh-oh" email. I took a look and it was for a KOM that I had near Stamullen but had forgotten about. Who did I lose it to, only a chap with the user name of "Absolute Fred". This must be a result of cheating, right? Right?

He's a class rider who is on the comeback trail, no shame in losing one to him ...

Lusk_Doyle

RobFowl wrote: »

He's a class rider who is on the comeback trail, no shame in losing one to him ...

Ah I know. The name is funny in conjunction with the results!

ryan_sherlock

Clearly this guy is gaming the system:

https://app.strava.com/activities/311579330/

Many exactly the same rides, on the same day, overlapping at dramatically different speeds... (with a group of riders going 14kmph slower...)

ryan_sherlock

And just like that the speed up rides are gone...

Alek

I guess people are uploading virtual turbo trainer rides...

Kevincavan83

I was just thinking about one segment that i was in second position.
After hearing about all the questions that were being asked i logged in and BOOM strava removed him and i've a king of the mountain award.
The fact he went up hill at 46km/hr may have raised a few eyebrows

Alek

The fact he went up hill at 46km/hr

Define "hill"

godtabh

Alek wrote: »

Define "hill"

Zero resistance on a virtual trainer

Kevincavan83

Alek wrote: »

Define "hill"

2.5% gradient after coming around a roundabout

Alek

2.5% gradient after coming around a roundabout

Quite possible with some tailwind... depending for how long.

ryan_sherlock

As I have almost all my data since I started riding on Strava (had a Garmin from the start) I have more than a couple KOMs... the amount of times I get messages and look at the ride to show the person left the iphone/garmin on in the car on the way home from a spin... About 50% of the time they notice and fix. The rest it is a flag.

Alek

Check out Kom Defender - will automatically let you know if someone gets a suspicious KOM on one of your segments. Pretty handy tool.

Lusk_Doyle

ryan_sherlock wrote: »

As I have almost all my data since I started riding on Strava (had a Garmin from the start) I have more than a couple KOMs... the amount of times I get messages and look at the ride to show the person left the iphone/garmin on in the car on the way home from a spin... About 50% of the time they notice and fix. The rest it is a flag.

Ryan Sherlock flags all rides faster than him! You heard it here first folks! Giddy up Ryan!

ryan_sherlock

Lusk_Doyle wrote: »

Ryan Sherlock flags all rides faster than him! You heard it here first folls! Giddy up Ryan!

True that, cus that ain't possible!!

(nahh, when I see a VAM of 2500 for 7 minutes I know something fishy is going on)

Kaisr Sose

ryan_sherlock wrote: »

True that, cus that ain't possible!!

(nahh, when I see a VAM of 2500 for 7 minutes I know something fishy is going on)

Out of curiosity Ryan, have you ever compared a phone ride data versus your Garmin data? It would be interesting to see what the accuracy / or +/- range is from someone that has probably more strava rides recorded than almost another living soul :-)

CramCycle

ryan_sherlock wrote: »

As I have almost all my data since I started riding on Strava (had a Garmin from the start) I have more than a couple KOMs... the amount of times I get messages and look at the ride to show the person left the iphone/garmin on in the car on the way home from a spin... About 50% of the time they notice and fix. The rest it is a flag.

I took a KOM of you once, unfortunately it was the stupidest place to put a KOM (flat section through 4 lights and a right turn, the original rider took a left and hook turned it to beat the lights I imagine, normally the timing on the lights means you have to stop at the second one but I rode it at night when the light sequence changes to be straight green unless traffic triggers the sensor).

Needless to say, I had to report it, but for a fleeting moment, I had reached the pinnacle of my road career.

Beasty

Know one guy who decided to report all of someone else's KOM rides out of pure spite

RobFowl

Beasty wrote: »

Know one guy who decided to report all of someone else's KOM rides out of pure spite

But I thought you were on a motorbike ....

ryan_sherlock

Kaisr Sose wrote: »

Out of curiosity Ryan, have you ever compared a phone ride data versus your Garmin data? It would be interesting to see what the accuracy / or +/- range is from someone that has probably more strava rides recorded than almost another living soul :-)

I have not used the phone apps much but sometimes, if I'm doing a FTP test etc... I would also turn it on in my pocket as a backup (every now and then the garmin corrupts my file). iPhone5 was reasonably close to the garmin but the iPhone6 even closer - very little between them.

Within the Garmins, the 800 series is much much better than the older 500.

greenspurs

a segment near me...
2km uphill stretch at 2% average gradient
Kom is 69.2kmph average ! done in 1.53 ......

CramCycle

RobFowl wrote: »

But I thought you were on a motorbike ....

In hindsight, its not that unbelievable anymore :eek:

Alek

Kom is 69.2kmph average ! done in 1.53 ......

Not impossible when drafting. Can you post a link to the KOM ride?

Dazguy2000

Had a trip to the Hospital two weeks ago after a crash and the guy who took my bike back in a car left the Garmin still on.

Ended up with 20 KOM's when it uploaded.... within 10 mins they were all flagged and within another 10 mins I was able to crop the file and remove it.

Easy come easy go!

jon1981

I had to flag a KOM on the Naul ascent. 900m long segment with average 5% gradient, 50kph logged.... get the boat!!

buffalo

One of the lads in the club scored a 66kph KOM last night. I was very impressed and assumed tailwind assistance. Turns out he was in the back of an ambulance and the bike in the back of the car!

Also, what's the story with drafting - cheating or not?

Beasty

buffalo wrote: »

Also, what's the story with drafting - cheating or not?

Definitely cheating - need to flag all those guys in the Giro who took a load of mine away .....