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Have you ever experienced hibernophobia?

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  • #302
    Chinasea
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭Chinasea


    old hippy wrote: »
    The Irish Post has served the Irish community in Britain with much acclaim for many years now and has always been well regarded. I wrote a few features for it myself, years back.

    To compare it to Stormfront is like comparing a fish to a bicycle.
    FTA69 wrote: »
    Fratton Fred wrote: »

    http://www.ir-news.net/2013/02/anti-irish-racism-reported-on-the-increase/


    I meant the link to the attached. The comparison between the two is like a fish to a bicycle.


  • #303
    woodoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    gallag wrote: »
    Paddy goes into a John Lewis department store and asks the shopkeeper, "Excuse me sir, but do you sell potato clocks?"The shopkeeper looks at him and says, "Are you taking the piss? We sell cuckoo clocks, carriage clocks, grandfather clocks, alarm clocks... what the feck is a potato clock?"And Paddy says, "I don't know, but I start my new job at nine tomorrow, and the wife said 'You'd better get a potato clock.'"

    I have to laugh at you making all these irish jokes and potato famine jokes as if you are from a different island. Your people suffered in the famine too. Apart from the 800,000 unionists up north pretty much the rest of the world considers you irish too.


  • #304
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Weathering wrote: »
    An Australian girl once asked me was I catholic or protestant. I replied catholic. She said ugh I hate u guys I prefer protestants and I replied I prefer you guys in black and white stripes so I don't need to hear your accent to determine you're a mongrel convict. She soon shut up

    I didn't mean it but I have a low tolerance for people like that

    Ironically, I see no difference between her sectariansim and your bigotted remark.


  • #305
    gallag
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭gallag


    woodoo wrote: »

    I have to laugh at you making all these irish jokes and potato famine jokes as if you are from a different island. Your people suffered in the famine too. Apart from the 800,000 unionists up north pretty much the rest of the world considers you irish too.
    What famine joke? You really do try to be insulted lol. And I consider my self to be irish, British and irish, like we have British scotts and British welsh and British English.


  • #306
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    woodoo wrote: »
    I have to laugh at you making all these irish jokes and potato famine jokes as if you are from a different island. Your people suffered in the famine too. Apart from the 800,000 unionists up north pretty much the rest of the world considers you irish too.

    I wear a black armband everyday to commemorate our famine fallen.


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  • #307
    tipptom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭tipptom


    kunst nugget wrote: »
    I wear a black armband everyday to commemorate our famine fallen.
    You are lower than bigots in England who try to insult Irish people about hundred of thousands of Irish people who died in the famine,makes me sad to think of the type of "Irish"people like you who think you might be able to ingratiate yourself with certain sections of English people by making such remarks,decent people must think you are a little disturbed.


  • #308
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    tipptom wrote: »
    You are lower than bigots in England who try to insult Irish people about hundred of thousands of Irish people who died in the famine,makes me sad to think of the type of "Irish"people like you who think you might be able to ingratiate yourself with certain sections of English people by making such remarks,decent people must think you are a little disturbed.

    Well, decent people seemed to get turned off by my 800 years! t-shirt but Tiocfaidh ár lá and all that.


  • #309
    tipptom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭tipptom


    kunst nugget wrote: »
    Well, decent people seemed to get turned off by my 800 years! t-shirt but Tiocfaidh ár lá and all that.
    O-kaay:eek:


  • #310
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    tipptom wrote: »
    You are lower than bigots in England who try to insult Irish people about hundred of thousands of Irish people who died in the famine,makes me sad to think of the type of "Irish"people like you who think you might be able to ingratiate yourself with certain sections of English people by making such remarks,decent people must think you are a little disturbed.

    Do "decent people" read/post on boards.ie?


  • #311
    tipptom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭tipptom


    old hippy wrote: »
    Do "decent people" read/post on boards.ie?
    Yes,along with with plenty of bigots who are Irish who make comments that BNP members would not even make in public for fear they would be arrested, but it must give the BNP and the like a great fillup to their "cause" to hear "Irish" people making these comments.


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  • #312
    jugger0
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭jugger0


    woodoo wrote: »
    I have to laugh at you making all these irish jokes and potato famine jokes as if you are from a different island. Your people suffered in the famine too. Apart from the 800,000 unionists up north pretty much the rest of the world considers you irish too.

    Ulster Unionists are possibly the worst humans in existence.


  • #313
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    tipptom wrote: »
    Yes,along with with plenty of bigots who are Irish who make comments that BNP members would not even make in public for fear they would be arrested, but it must give the BNP and the like a great fillup to their "cause" to hear "Irish" people making these comments.

    I'm getting very upset by what you're implying about me. I shout 'Sinn Fein!' and 'IRA!' during the Fields of Athenry just like everybody else.


  • #314
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    jugger0 wrote: »
    Ulster Unionists are possibly the worst humans in existence.

    Why do you think that?


  • #315
    woodoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    tipptom wrote: »
    You are lower than bigots in England who try to insult Irish people about hundred of thousands of Irish people who died in the famine,makes me sad to think of the type of "Irish"people like you who think you might be able to ingratiate yourself with certain sections of English people by making such remarks,decent people must think you are a little disturbed.

    Its pretty embarrassing that some irish people align themselves with anti irish british people joking about the irish famine. Seems to have gone over their head that its not the english ancestors who suffered it was the irish. Possibly blood relations of their own.

    Its like if something terrible happened in your family and all the neighbours are joking about it. And you start telling the same jokes, too stupid to realise the joke is on your own family


  • #316
    woodoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    I was i a bar in England a few years ago watching the rugby and some Australian guy behind us started shouting potato, he kept at it until 2 of us went up to confront him about it. He shut up for a while and then started up about a half hour later. We just left then.

    Its a bit silly. Irish people don't think of the famine every time they eat a potato. That potato potato **** Kieth Lemon started up again does my head in.


  • #317
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    woodoo wrote: »
    Its pretty embarrassing that some irish people align themselves with anti irish british people joking about the irish famine. Seems to have gone over their head that its not the english ancestors who suffered it was the irish. Possibly blood relations of their own.

    Its like if something terrible happened in your family and all the neighbours are joking about it. And you start telling the same jokes, too stupid to realise the joke is on your own family

    It's actually nothing like that at all. Making a joke about the famine or the easter rising or any historical Irish event doesn't make you some sort of Irish Uncle Tom, trying to make jolly for your British overlords. To suggest that is ridiculous. Just because I might choose to poke fun at Irish history or certain elements of Irish culture, doesn't mean I'm trying to pretend to be anything other than Irish. I'm more than happy to be Irish, I just choose not to be po-faced about it.


  • #318
    Fratton Fred
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    who is making jokes about the famine?


  • #319
    tipptom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭tipptom


    kunst nugget wrote: »
    I'm getting very upset by what you're implying about me. I shout 'Sinn Fein!' and 'IRA!' during the Fields of Athenry just like everybody else.
    You sound like a long time member of C18,go on the soccer forum and make fun of the Munich air disaster,history and heritage, and make fun of the holocaust,and tell them not to be so po-faced while you are at it.


  • #320
    woodoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    kunst nugget wrote: »
    It's actually nothing like that at all. Making a joke about the famine or the easter rising or any historical Irish event doesn't make you some sort of Irish Uncle Tom, trying to make jolly for your British overlords. To suggest that is ridiculous. Just because I might choose to poke fun at Irish history or certain elements of Irish culture, doesn't mean I'm trying to pretend to be anything other than Irish. I'm more than happy to be Irish, I just choose not to be po-faced about it.

    It has seeped into the irish mindset through UK TV most people don't even realise that. You wouldn't get too many people in Israel taking the piss out of the holocaust.


  • #321
    dizzywizlw
    Closed Accounts Posts: 584 ✭✭✭dizzywizlw


    I take the piss out of the fact that we starved with an ocean full of fish out there.


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  • #322
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    tipptom wrote: »
    You sound like a long time member of C18,go on the soccer forum and make fun of the Munich air disaster,history and heritage, and make fun of the holocaust,and tell them not to be so po-faced while you are at it.

    And you seem like someone that is incapable of engaging in rational thought. What could possible lead you to believe I'd support the far right from what I've written. I think you need a good cup of common sense and a hug.


  • #323
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    woodoo wrote: »
    It has seeped into the irish mindset through UK TV most people don't even realise that.

    A load of cobblers.
    woodoo wrote: »
    You wouldn't get too many people in Israel taking the piss out of the holocaust.

    http://jwa.org/blog/holocausthumor


  • #324
    Duggys Housemate
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,298 ✭✭✭Duggys Housemate


    kunst nugget wrote: »

    It's actually nothing like that at all. Making a joke about the famine or the easter rising or any historical Irish event doesn't make you some sort of Irish Uncle Tom, trying to make jolly for your British overlords. To suggest that is ridiculous. Just because I might choose to poke fun at Irish history or certain elements of Irish culture, doesn't mean I'm trying to pretend to be anything other than Irish. I'm more than happy to be Irish, I just choose not to be po-faced about it.

    Of course mocking the famine makes you anti-Irish, as would mocking the holocaust make you an anti-Semite even if you were Jewish.

    Mocking either is psychotic.


  • #325
    Duggys Housemate
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,298 ✭✭✭Duggys Housemate


    dizzywizlw wrote: »
    I take the piss out of the fact that we starved with an ocean full of fish out there.

    That's also derived from far right English bigotry. ( the paddys died because they couldn't fish).


  • #326
    crockholm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭crockholm


    dizzywizlw wrote: »
    I take the piss out of the fact that we starved with an ocean full of fish out there.
    Im sure if you think about it long enough it should start to manifest


  • #327
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Duggys Housemate wrote: »
    Of course mocking the famine makes you anti-Irish, as would mocking the holocaust make you an anti-Semite even if you were Jewish.

    Mocking either is psychotic.

    That is completely ridiculous

    Take this example:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBT4ZWy6Lm4


    In it, the Rubberbandits mock several events in Irish history, including the famine. The point is not to be anti-Irish but to satirise the ignorant and uninformed attitudes and opinions that surround Irish Republicanism. Now you can take it at face value and called them hate-filled psychotic bigots but that would be entirely stupid.


  • #328
    dizzywizlw
    Closed Accounts Posts: 584 ✭✭✭dizzywizlw


    Duggys Housemate wrote: »
    That's also derived from far right English bigotry. ( the paddys died because they couldn't fish).

    They died because they planted one variety of one crop for years.


  • #329
    kunst nugget
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    dizzywizlw wrote: »
    They died because they planted one variety of one crop for years.

    That's not it at all.


  • #330
    dizzywizlw
    Closed Accounts Posts: 584 ✭✭✭dizzywizlw


    kunst nugget wrote: »
    That's not it at all.

    If you're referring to the lack of suitable land due to colonialism and indeed market demand for cattle as well as the poor socioeconomic relations in Ireland, I'm aware of these.

    I admit it can seem chicken and egg.


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  • #331
    bnt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,138 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    I still don't get why it's being called a "phobia". The Independent piece doesn't use that word. Is anyone ever scared of the Irish?

    Besides, what does it help to moan about it here? Stereotypes (negative or otherwise) don't just appear out of nowhere. The "drunk paddy" stereotype has a basis in reality here, just as it does in Australia or Finland, but not in (say) China or Canada. You want the stereotypes to go away, so stop acting in ways that reinforce the stereotypes.

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



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