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Hugo Chavez has died

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  • #32
    Steve O
    Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭Steve O


    Madam_X wrote: »
    There's loads on the internet about him.

    He's a pornstar?


  • #33
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    anncoates wrote: »
    Well he was on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean.


    I hear it takes a month of fair winds to hear news of that far flung land....


  • #34
    Praetorian Saighdiuir
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,968 ✭✭✭✭Praetorian Saighdiuir


    anncoates wrote: »
    Your sanctimony arouses us all.
    Methememb wrote: »
    Says your man who goes around making Madeline McCann jokes....

    I see sarcasm detection is deficient in you two.


  • #35
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Madam_X wrote: »
    There's loads on the internet about him.

    Not sure he turned out to be the saviour people thought he'd be either...

    No, but he tried, which puts him above the usual.


  • #36
    orestes
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    Madam_X wrote: »
    There's loads on the internet about him

    Pfffft, surely you don't expect any of us to actually try to find anything out for ourselves?! Spoon-feed me dammit!


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  • #37
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Only the right wing divvies will be pleased by this news.

    R.I.P


  • #38
    mikemac1
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    20,000 murders a year says he tried to change his country and made it worse


  • #39
    Big Lar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,443 ✭✭✭Big Lar


    Was there a Mrs. Chaves?


  • #40
    GRMA
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭GRMA


    RIP, great man and leader - flawed but far better than every other leader around the world


  • #41
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,851 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    He made every single TV channel in the country carry his speeches which went on for hours and hours. Would that work for Enda here?

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jan/26/venezuela-protest-hugo-chavez-television

    The only surprise is that he has not lined up a family member to continue the "revolution".


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  • #42
    losthorizon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭losthorizon


    P_1 wrote: »
    Interesting times ahead in Central America so.

    Odds on some kind of a right wing coup?

    Venezuela is in South America


  • #43
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Conmaicne Mara wrote: »
    No loss.

    Really?
    Extreme poverty declined even more, from 16.6 to 7.0 percent from 1999 to 2011, or a 57.8 percent decline. Measuring from 2004, the decline is 70 percent. However, these figures do not include the most recent program, introduced in December 2011, which pays 430 BF ($100) per month for each child and pregnancy to families below the extreme poverty level. This is expected to lower the extreme poverty rate by half, to about 3.5 percent.

    It is also important to note that these poverty rates include only cash income. They do not include
    the populations’ increased access to education – for example, college enrollment has doubled since
    2004, with free tuition for many students

    http://www.cepr.net/documents/publications/venezuela-2012-09.pdf


  • #44
    Where To
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    20,000 murders a year says he tried to change his country and made it worse
    They stopped officially reporting the figures and they are still in the top 5.

    Basketcase of a country, a perfect example of Animal Farmism if ever there was one.


  • #45
    strobe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Andy-Pandy wrote: »

    There is a very high rate of cancer among leftwing south American leaders. I'm sure it's just coincidental, but is quite odd.

    All the complimentary Cuban cigars?


  • #46
    Stinicker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    R.I.P to a great man and a leader of the revolution. He actually done something for his people and was more of a politician than any of the corrupt money grabbing scum we call politicians here in the West.


  • #47
    Banjo String
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    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    He made every single TV channel in the country carry his speeches which went on for hours and hours. Would that work for Enda here?

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jan/26/venezuela-protest-hugo-chavez-television

    The only surprise is that he has not lined up a family member to continue the "revolution"    .

    Here, our politicians just line up family members for jobs.......

    Not worlds apart tbh.


  • #48
    padd b1975
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,853 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    A benign dictator was the soundbite I heard most used to describe him.

    RIP all the same.


  • #49
    GRMA
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    padd b1975 wrote: »
    A benign dictator was the soundbite I heard most used to describe him.

    RIP all the same.
    How? He was repeatedly and fairly democratically elected.


  • #50
    Aint Eazy Being Cheezy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭Aint Eazy Being Cheezy


    RIP Hugo Chavez.


  • #51
    brimal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭brimal


    Chavez was rabidly anti-Semitic.

    He ran many anti-Semitic media campaigns, made several anti-Semitic speeches, and his campaign to vilify Henrique Capriles by using his Jewish roots was sickening.

    It's no wonder that since Chavez came to power anti-Semitism is on the rise in Venezuela and the Jewish population has declined by 75%.

    http://www.commentarymagazine.com/article/hugo-chavezs-jewish-problem/
    http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/chavez-anti-semitism-and-today-s-venezuelan-elections.premium-1.468637
    http://www.ibtimes.com/venezuela-hugo-chavez-anti-semitic-election-campaign-214136

    How people on here can champion this man is beyond me.


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  • #52
    mike65
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    Hard to know what this will mean, usually its Meet the New Boss, Same As the Old Boss.

    Censorship, jailings, beatings, intimidation all that good South American stuff from left and right.


  • #53
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,275 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Where To wrote: »
    They stopped officially reporting the figures and they are still in the top 5.

    Basketcase of a country, a perfect example of Animal Farmism if ever there was one.

    The place is a basketcase, but that's not because of Chavez!

    There were probably 100,000's of murders per year in Venezuela before he came into power.

    He made things a lot fairer for most people. Obviously that came at a cost to the people who held unofficial clout vast ill-gotten wealth before there was a constitutional government.


  • #54
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,851 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Stinicker wrote: »
    R.I.P to a great man and a leader of the revolution. He actually done something for his people and was more of a politician than any of the corrupt money grabbing scum we call politicians here in the West.

    Doing something for his country didn't include having a proper electricity supply. Is that the sort of model you want in the "corrupt" West?

    http://latitude.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/21/chavezs-electric-power-problem/


  • #55
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    brimal wrote: »
    Chavez was rabidly anti-Semitic.

    He ran many anti-Semitic media campaigns, made several anti-Semitic speeches, and his campaign to vilify Henrique Capriles by using his Jewish roots was sickening.

    It's no wonder that since Chavez came to power anti-Semitism is on the rise in Venezuela and the Jewish population has declined by 75%.

    http://www.commentarymagazine.com/article/hugo-chavezs-jewish-problem/
    http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/chavez-anti-semitism-and-today-s-venezuelan-elections.premium-1.468637
    http://www.ibtimes.com/venezuela-hugo-chavez-anti-semitic-election-campaign-214136

    How people on here can champion this man is beyond me.


    Most of us aren't Jewish though.


  • #56
    Where To
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    GRMA wrote: »
    How? He was repeatedly and fairly democratically elected.
    :pac:

    http://www.hrw.org/americas/venezuela


  • #57
    ballsymchugh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,940 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    Hammer Archer wrote: »
    RIP.
    He had his faults, without a doubt. But he was loved by masses of poor in Venezuela who had been repeatedly trodden on by countless previous regimes.

    For anyone interested, I'd suggest watching the documentary "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised" which focuses on the attempted coup against Chavez back in 2002.
    lintdrummer wrote: »
    Sad to see him go. For those who want an insight into his life their is a riveting Irish documentary called "the revolution will not be televised". Well worth watching.

    Edit: beat me to it Hammer Archer!


    you can watch it here. made by RTE, shown on TG4

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id--ZFtjR5c


  • #58
    RobbingBandit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,392 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Very sad, a 3 year battle with Cancer was obviously painful,may he rest in peace now.


  • #59
    ben.schlomo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,641 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    Maybe someone else will get a go on Venezuelan TV now.
    A popular misconception, Venezuela actually has a very free and open media with much private ownership.


  • #60
    mike65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    My name is URL wrote: »
    The place is a basketcase, but that's not because of Chavez!

    There were probably 100,000's of murders per year in Venezuela before he came into power.

    He made things a lot fairer for most people. Obviously that came at a cost to the people who held unofficial clout vast ill-gotten wealth before there was a constitutional government.

    He completely failed to use his oil bounty for any long term advantage. The place has low growth, a whacked out balance of trade, high inflation and is falling apart (again). The left in the rich west loved him as they didn't have to live under him.


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  • #61
    Son Of A Vidic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    brimal wrote: »
    How people on here can champion this man is beyond me.

    And why you feel the need to introduce the issue of anti-semitism into this thread, is beyond me even more.


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