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What does a convicted sex offender bring to court to read?

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  • #32
    sbsquarepants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    yoshi_ wrote: »
    I was viciously assaulted last year WAY worse than this case, and the scummer got away 100% scott free.

    And you took from this experience that what happened in your case was fine, but this prick getting a harsh sentence is wrong?
    I think you may have some self esteem issues yoshi!


  • #33
    yoshi_
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 22 ✭yoshi_


    sbsquarepants wrote: »
    And you took from this experience that what happened in your case was fine, but this prick getting a harsh sentence is wrong?
    I think you may have some self esteem issues yoshi!

    Both are wrong therefore both should be given equal treatment, but because I'm male it's not seen as equal crime in this country. Women are charished while men treat like dirt, by the courts. Undeniable.


  • #34
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    yoshi_ wrote: »
    I was viciously assaulted last year WAY worse than this case, and the scummer got away 100% scott free.
    Did the scummer remove your pants make you think he was going to bugger you?

    You seem to think that it only matters what the offender has actually done, not what he intended to do? Is it less of an offence if they plan on raping her but get disturbed before they can carry it out?


  • #35
    yoshi_
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 22 ✭yoshi_


    .


  • #36
    ResearchWill
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ResearchWill


    yoshi_ wrote: »
    Don't get me wrong, I'm glad these scum were sent to jail. I support harsh sentences, but only if they're given out CONSISTENTLY. Not only when the victim is the culturally preferred and cherished gender (female)

    I know for a fact that most lawyers in the Court yesterday believed this was a very serious offence. I know that this case was on the extreme end of assaults. For very specific reasons.

    But this country amazes me, based on nothing more than a few paragraphs of a news article a judge is either too easy or now too hard. This sentence took about 2 hours, unless you sat in court you don't know the details.


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  • #37
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    yoshi_ wrote: »
    Both are wrong therefore both should be given equal treatment, but because I'm male it's not seen as equal crime in this country. Women are cherished while men treat like dirt, by the courts. Undeniable.
    Different crimes. Assault -v- rape/sexual assault. Rape is a far more serious crime and rightly so.


  • #38
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,382 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    yoshi_ wrote: »
    She gladly accepted the money didn't she?
    no she didn't actually


  • #39
    ResearchWill
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ResearchWill


    yoshi_ wrote: »
    Both are wrong therefore both should be given equal treatment, but because I'm male it's not seen as equal crime in this country. Women are charished while men treat like dirt, by the courts. Undeniable.

    I can assure you if any man went through the same the sentence would have been the same.


  • #40
    yoshi_
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 22 ✭yoshi_


    ResearchWill wrote: »
    I know for a fact that most lawyers in the Court yesterday believed this was a very serious offence. I know that this case was on the extreme end of assaults. For very specific reasons.

    But this country amazes me, based on nothing more than a few paragraphs of a news article a judge is either too easy or now too hard. This sentence took about 2 hours, unless you sat in court you don't know the details.

    Do you honestly think the perpetrators would have gotten 9 years if the victim/s had have been male? Be honest.


  • #41
    ResearchWill
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ResearchWill


    yoshi_ wrote: »
    She was likely going to have sex with him any way. It's not like she was a chaste women. The perpetrator would just as likely be differed from committing crimes again if he was given say 6 months, or even if he was let off.

    Remove that post before I report it. If you are not a troll you have serious issues.


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  • #42
    ResearchWill
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ResearchWill


    yoshi_ wrote: »
    Do you honestly think the perpetrators would have gotten 9 years if the victim/s had have been male? Be honest.

    If the facts had been the same yes.


  • #43
    seenitall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭seenitall


    yoshi_ wrote: »
    She gladly accepted the money didn't she?

    What a disgusting post. :mad:


  • #44
    yoshi_
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 22 ✭yoshi_


    ResearchWill wrote: »
    I can assure you if any man went through the same the sentence would have been the same.

    I went through similar. He got let off, and I've heard of countless other times when this has happened.


  • #45
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    yoshi_ wrote: »
    She was likely going to have sex with him any way. It's not like she was a chaste women.
    Ah, I see, you're just full of sh1t.

    Not going to waste my time responding to someone whose account has a short shelf-life.


  • #46
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,382 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    yoshi_ wrote: »
    Both are wrong therefore both should be given equal treatment, but because I'm male it's not seen as equal crime in this country. Women are charished while men treat like dirt, by the courts. Undeniable.
    were you beaten up or sexually assaulted? big difference


  • #47
    yoshi_
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 22 ✭yoshi_


    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    were you beaten up or sexually assaulted? big difference

    Can you share details of the case? Otherwise I'm going to assume all he did was pull her knickers down (as that's the only info given) which isn't exactly serious is it? In school, males get 'jocked' all the time.


  • #48
    ResearchWill
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ResearchWill


    yoshi_ wrote: »
    Can you share details of the case? Otherwise I'm going to assume all he did was pull her knickers down (as that's the only info given) which isn't exactly serious is it? In school, males get 'jocked' all the time.


    I am not going to share any details, as there is a reporting ban on identifying one of the victims. It was way worse than that. To say it is similar to getting "jocked" is down right insulting and to be frank stupid. As I said if you are a troll your a twat, if your not you are just sad.


  • #49
    Capt'n Midnight
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    yoshi_ wrote: »
    She gladly accepted the money didn't she?
    The judge awarded it without consulting her

    IIRC she rejected the blood money


  • #50
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,382 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    yoshi_ wrote: »
    Can you share details of the case? Otherwise I'm going to assume all he did was pull her knickers down (as that's the only info given) which isn't exactly serious is it? In school, males get 'jocked' all the time.

    both had their heads smashed with a bottle. Both were stalked and attack was pre planned...

    Bit different to a wedgie


  • #51
    yoshi_
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 22 ✭yoshi_


    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »
    The judge awarded it without consulting her

    IIRC she rejected the blood money

    Fair play to her then, bu I can't say I'm not surprised TBH


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  • #52
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,382 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    yoshi_ wrote: »
    Fair play to her then, bu I can't say I'm not surprised TBH

    you seem in good form after your ordeal anyway Yoshi!


  • #53
    yoshi_
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 22 ✭yoshi_


    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    you seem in good form after your ordeal anyway Yoshi!

    I got no justice from the criminal court, so I set out to find out WHY there is this despicable bias against males, and I've since come across many answers.

    Women tend to play up their ordeals to be way worse than they were and pretend to be affected by them way worse than they are, whereas with men it's the opposite.


  • #54
    ResearchWill
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ResearchWill


    yoshi_ wrote: »
    I got no justice from the criminal court, so I set out to find out WHY there is this despicable bias against males, and I've since come across many answers.

    Women tend to play up their ordeals to be way worse than they were and pretend to be affected by them way worse than they are, whereas with men it's the opposite.


    Maybe you did not get the justice you thought you deserved not because your a man but because your a total tit. God this trolling stuff is fun.


  • #55
    yoshi_
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 22 ✭yoshi_


    ResearchWill wrote: »
    Maybe you did not get the justice you thought you deserved not because your a man but because your a total tit. God this trolling stuff is fun.

    Do gits not feel pain? Gittery aside, a human being deserves equal justice regardless if they are the preferred gender or race, or not.


  • #56
    ResearchWill
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ResearchWill


    yoshi_ wrote: »
    Do gits not feel pain? Gittery aside, a human being deserves equal justice regardless if they are the preferred gender or race, or not.

    This was not just an assault, I have sat through many an assault case, this was something way more. But you dont seem to get that.


  • #57
    kupus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,151 ✭✭✭kupus


    @ yoshi
    I will agree with you that sentencing in Ireland is a joke and based on other court sentences Ive read if this was a male, there would be less said about it.
    But what you were saying earlier is way out of line.

    I have no time for lawyers and their money spinner called free legal aid with repeat customers..... sorry I meant offenders, but jail time of nine years its about time. Now only if it was hard time and not the cosy lil place they call prison.


  • #58
    humanji
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Yoshi banned. For a variety of reasons, the worst of which is not putting the effort into your trolling.


  • #59
    LiamMc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 906 ✭✭✭LiamMc


    petersburg2002 wrote: »
    Note the book title in the photo. Very appropriate reading considering the venue and the crime. What a dirtball.

    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/pair-jailed-for-assault-and-violent-sex-attack-224013.html
    biko wrote: »
    Fun fact:
    Dexter is Latin for "right" and sinister is Latin for "left".

    Michael Carlyle Hall plays the character Dexter, he previously portrayed a Funeral Director/Undertaker/Mortician in six Feet Under.

    There is a few Carlyle Hall's on facebook
    AdamHeneghanCorkCircuitCriminalCourt_large.jpg

    One of them is a Funeral Director.


  • #60
    G Power
    Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭G Power


    HTML5! wrote: »
    It would be 'appropriate' if Dexter was a sex offender. He's not. Nothing to see here.

    that maybe so but to downplay the significance of a sex offender reading such a novel by saying the lead in the book isn't a sex offender is splitting hairs and in my view dexter is not the type of book that should be allowed inside a prison where there are murderers and rapists.

    isn't there supposed to be sensible censorship of all letters and books that go in and out of a prison?? and for good reasons too


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  • #61
    LiamMc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 906 ✭✭✭LiamMc


    G Power wrote: »
    that maybe so but to downplay the significance of a sex offender reading such a novel by saying the lead in the book isn't a sex offender is splitting hairs and in my view dexter is not the type of book that should be allowed inside a prison where there are murderers and rapists.

    isn't there supposed to be sensible censorship of all letters and books that go in and out of a prison?? and for good reasons too

    I just presumed a Screw lent the book to the Con.


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