Transgender child banned from girl's bathroom

G.K. wrote: »

Fail. Ever heard of Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome? Essentially, it produces XY Females, some of whom are even capable of giving birth. Plenty more things like that too.

Fail. AIS XY females have no uterus but have testes. Better luck next time

Furious_George wrote: »

You came on here tonight with an agenda to paint everyone as a bigot and show how great and liberal you are. I think you have achieved the opposite. Boardsies have come across as liberal with the vast majority saying that once a child reaches an age that he/she is old enough to make large important decisions then the child should be supported regardless of what gender they choose. i am aware choose is the wrong word here but cant think of another.

you have on the other hand come across as unreasonable and agressive. People rightly or wrongly are expressing concern for the childs welfare due to choices made by the parents. That does not constitute an attack on transgendered people. If you are too closed minded in your opinions of others to see that then you are at fault and not other posters.

I think you need to re-read the thread if you think the vast majority were supportive? Especially page 1.

Now do stop with your makey-uppy "agenda" that I'm supposed to have, the classic "attack a liberal" position. ohhh "The Agenda!!" Please.

As for concern for the child's welfare could you please explain to me what age the parents are supposed to start listening to their child's explanation of their gender identity? 26?

Czarcasm wrote: »

I'd have simply said "No! Now cop the fcuk on and finish your ready brek and go in and brush your teeth!".

I try to instill a sense of practical responsibility in my child before I'd indulge his fashion sense tbh.

A parent's duty is to guide their child, not drive them over the bloody cliff!

I see. Being transgendered is a cliff to be driven off.

What age would you allow it to happen after being constantly pestered to wear dresses? 6? 10? Never?

April O Neill wrote: »

Is this the case in the story in the OP? If not, why bring this up?

That the definition of gender is not as simple as posters here make out. It is not simply a case of looking between your legs, and for kids such as Coy, genitalia does not define their gender. That's the point I was making.

That the definition of gender is not as simple as posters here make out. It is not simply a case of looking between your legs, and for kids such as Coy, genitalia does not define their gender. That's the point I was making.

....shakes head in disbelief, walks away......

Madam_X wrote: »

Acting like the opposite gender does not define your gender either.

Genitalia kinda does define one's gender really though - otherwise transgendered people wouldn't be having those operations to change their genitalia to that of the gender which they identify as.

Perhaps I should clarify. The genitalia that you are born with does not always define your gender.

As far as gender reassignment surgery, that is to to correct what some transexuals describe as being what is "wrong" with their body. If you internally feel female, yet have a penis, then the surgery is to correct what feels wrong.

CollardGreens wrote: »

....shakes head in disbelief, walks away......

I'm sure this isn't news to you, as much as you wish to disbelieve it.

smash wrote: »

If a male child says he doesn't like girls should we assume he's gay?

We should assume he's wise beyond his years.

Optimalprimerib wrote: »

I don't know the difference in this case, I thought transgender was after the op, but it is a tricky subject. If the parents forced this upon their child they deserve to be punished for child abuse. If it is a case that the child sees himself as a girl perhaps not, but I hope the parents do not make any money from the case as it is a very unusual and difficult situation for the school to be in.

What's difficult? The school agreed to take Coy as a girl and Coy used the female bathroom until last December, now the school want to make an issue of it. It is the school making it a problem.

starlings wrote: »

It would be nice too if we didn't impose gender so strictly on children with pink and blue rules. I was a right little tomboy till puberty came along, and I still kind of am, but I bet it's more difficult for little boys who enjoy "girl's" games.
Children who bend those rules won't necessarily turn out to be transgender - that's very rare - but I do miss those days of non-gender-specific playing - i.e climbing trees, and being able to run around the beach in just my knickers.

It might be controversial, and is only a personal opinion, but if gender rules weren't so strictly applied to children we might see less people conflicted about their gender when they grow-up

Feeling shame about your male gender because you don't like football, climbing trees, playing with tonka trunks, etc is one sure way of leading to issues in the future. Unfortunately children are adept at picking up cues of disappointment and disgust from their parents.

MadsL wrote: »

I see you have to wait til the crushing agony of puberty and beyond to express your gender identity according to after hours. I wonder how many people have even spoken to a transgendered person.

The "crushing agony" of puberty is something most teenagers experience at some time regardless of gender or sexual identity. For many it's a tough and lonely road, but it is part of growing-up.

If somebody chooses to make the transition from living as one sex to another it is a massive decision - not one to be taken lightly. Hormone therapies and in some cases surgery, are not without serious risks - both physical and mental. Decisions that can only be made by a fully matured adult, not a child and not someone undergoing puberty, however difficult it may be for them.

For the record I have no issue with transgendered men and women. If a grown adult wants to alter their body, dress in a certain way, be referred as Ms/Miss/Mr then who am I to argue otherwise. I would hope that the vast majority of my dealings with people are unaffected by what bits are between their legs - so it is a small courtesy from me to respect their wishes and address them as they would like. I'm not going to form a sexual relationship with them so their gender shouldn't affect me.

However that doesn't change my opinion that a child born with male genitalia and XY chromosomes is male - and always will be until the day they die.

Optimalprimerib wrote: »

I still do not want the parents to get compensated for this as I see it as them taking advantage of their child's situation to make a monetary gain.

What also must be looked at is why it is suddenly a situation? I feel so sorry for the child as if he is not accepted in the female bathroom, I would be pretty damn sure he wouldn't be accepted in the male one by the other kids.

Ms Mathis has filed a complaint with the Colorado Civil Rights Division on her daughter's behalf claiming the school has violated Coy's rights.

They are not looking for compensation they made a complaint.

Quite an assumption.