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15 year old girl gets 100 lashes for getting raped by her father

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  • #32
    mccarthy37
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭mccarthy37


    Hard to believe this is happening in the 21st century. Here we are shocked by revelations about the Magdaline Laundries that only closed in the 90's in this country. Is there any religion that doesn't view sex as an evil act. The most natural act between a consenting couple seems to be the greatest sin of all. I mean you have to question the belief of a religion that believes the mother of Jesus is a virgin. This poor girl was raped that is not a sexual act it is purely an evil violent act the father in law should be facing a jail sentence.


  • #33
    Yakult
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    Good to see the world continues to be a ****ed up place. :rolleyes:


  • #34
    CreepingDeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,015 ✭✭✭CreepingDeath


    Candie wrote: »
    And now the Maldives have joined the list of states that will never see a cent of my tourist money.

    It's nothing that time and the predicted sea level rise won't cure.

    Islands threatened by climate change


  • #35
    AlekSmart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,002 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    Yakult wrote: »
    Good to see the world continues to be a ****ed up place. :rolleyes:

    One wonders,in the context of the "Multiculuralism-Who wants it" thread elsewhere,whether countries which are the main inbound beneficiaries of the Multicultural revolution need to get some what more pro-active about which elements they are required to accept without demurring.

    With the Maldives supposedly run under a hybrid legal system combining elements of UK Common Law and Islamic Sharia Law,there really should be a debate about just what the "Mix" is in the place.

    Serious adherents to Sharia principles see us Christians as being of dubious worth unless we repent and accept the teachings of their prophet.

    Therefore,I believe it's definitely an issue for non-islamic countries to be somewhat more definite in advising prospective immigrants as to what elements of their beliefs are NOT tolerable in our Western culture.....and the nonsensical,yet sadly all too prevelant,carry-on described in the report fits this bill exactly.


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • #36
    Morag
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,450 ✭✭✭Morag


    seamus wrote: »
    Thankfully after hours doesn't have any say in Irish law...


    Really?

    Ok not the law but the course of Justice.

    If someone you cared about was raped and it went to court and the jury was made up of a selection of AH posters, how comfortable would you be with justice being served and there being a conviction?


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  • #37
    noxqs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭noxqs


    Disgusting - words cannot describe how barbaric, cruel and backwards Sharia law countries are. They're a cancer and a disgrace to humanity.

    Im sure we pay these kind of countries a lot of money in foreign aid, and the only question to that is why? Its condoning things like this with a wad of yearly cash. The developed world has to put its foot down and demand that the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is followed to the letter as a bare minimum for receiving a single cent.

    It makes me sick that this goes on in 2013.


  • #38
    Son Of A Vidic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    seamus wrote: »
    That's Islam for ye. Loves and respects women, and is very tolerant.

    No more than the Catholic Church and its treatment of women as second class citizens. Not overlooking of course, its well documented fondness for raping children and the concealment of such hideous crimes.


  • #39
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Corvus Maximus wrote: »
    No more than the Catholic Church and its treatment of women as second class citizens. Not overlooking of course, its well documented fondness for raping children and the concealment of such hideous crimes.
    Yep. They all need to be put on a big boat and sunk to the bottom of the pacific.
    If someone you cared about was raped and it went to court and the jury was made up of a selection of AH posters, how comfortable would you be with justice being served and there being a conviction?
    AH posters? I'd actually be exceptionally confident of a conviction because AH posters tend to be very reactionary and quick to assume guilt :p

    I know what you're saying, but AH isn't even for a second a good reflection of the general public.


  • #40
    Son Of A Vidic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    seamus wrote: »
    Yep. They all need to be put on a big boat and sunk to the bottom of the pacific.

    A much more agreeable post indeed.


  • #41
    jme2010
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭jme2010


    Keno 92 wrote: »
    Your title is wrong. You must not of read the story. She is not being lashed for being raped by her father, the lashings are for a separate occasion where she had consensual sex.

    It's still obviously terrible.

    Agree its terrible but the title should have read:

    15 year old girl gets 100 lashes for getting lashed out of it


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  • #42
    space_man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 663 ✭✭✭space_man


    i'm NOT a feminist by any means (just ask my missus!), far from it.
    but it's a fact that women, girls, female babies, female feotuses are being murdered globally (predominately in LDCs) by the 10s of 1,000s every day. Muslim states are not good places to be a female, neither is India nor China. The stats are truly shocking, and is often and rightly referred to as "FEMICIDE".

    this is just another example of this deplorable treatment of females worldwide.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femicide


  • #43
    BlaasForRafa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭BlaasForRafa


    mccarthy37 wrote: »
    Hard to believe this is happening in the 21st century.

    Not hard to believe at all. Wherever you have Sharia Law you have the chance of something barbaric and monstrous occurring.


  • #44
    pabloh999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭pabloh999


    Such a beautiful place inhabited by such disgusting animals


  • #45
    steddyeddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    I hope that judge and the girls father die screaming. Poor girl. I hope she has a better life in the future . As long as she moves out of this cesspit.


  • #46
    Rezident
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭Rezident


    I'm guessing this is an Islamic country. What is wrong with these people?


  • #47
    space_man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 663 ✭✭✭space_man


    Yakult wrote: »
    Good to see the world continues to be a ****ed up place. :rolleyes:

    why? have you been away?


  • #48
    JuliusCaesar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,886 ✭✭✭JuliusCaesar


    JuliusCaesar wrote: »
    yes, whereas there's no misogyny here at all.... (especially in After Hours!)
    seamus wrote: »
    Thankfully after hours doesn't have any say in Irish law...
    krudler wrote: »
    Link to instances where women have been whipped this year for having sex in Ireland?

    didnt think so.

    Just allowed die, rather than allowed have an abortion.

    Just given symphyiotomies instead of being treated properly.

    Yes, misogyny is common in all areas of life in Ireland, and this is reflected in our society and in our laws.


  • #49
    Madam_X
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    Candie wrote: »
    Sanctions have also been used quite effectively in other areas of the world though. Does anyone really feel that North Korea shouldn't be sanctioned by the rest of the world? How about China's human rights record? If they want to take their place among the economic giants more visibly, how could sanctions be used to manipulate them into behaving more acceptably by international standards?

    In a country utterly dependent on the tourist dollar, people voting with their bookings would cause a catastrophic fall in the national income. The pressure to reverse that fall would very likely result in a more compassionate review of the law if its clear that that's what peoples objection was.
    But until then, wouldn't ordinary people suffer due to lack of tourism revenue?
    JuliusCaesar wrote: »
    Just allowed die, rather than allowed have an abortion.

    Just given symphyiotomies instead of being treated properly.

    Yes, misogyny is common in all areas of life in Ireland, and this is reflected in our society and in our laws.
    As a woman, I find Ireland a far better place to live in than a Sharia society. And really dislike people trying to imply it's as bad here as it is in societies such as the one in the OP so therefore "we cannot criticise Islamic fundamentalism"... undermines what people suffer in such societies - as if they wouldn't do anything to live in a society as free as this one.

    Surely we can criticise both.

    How is misogyny reflected in our laws? Ireland today is very different to Ireland 40/50 years ago - and a million times better a place to live in for women than e.g. Pakistan. And I ain't a fan of misogyny.


  • #50
    space_man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 663 ✭✭✭space_man


    Madam_X wrote: »
    As a woman, I find Ireland a far better place to live in than a Sharia society. And really dislike people trying to imply it's as bad here as it is in societies such as the one in the OP... undermines what people suffer in such societies.

    i totally agree. to seek to compare ireland with some of these places where sharia law is endemic is moronic.
    i cannot remember the last time we beheaded a woman for adultery. can you?


  • #51
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    The government said it did not agree with the punishment and that it would look into changing the law.
    thats somewhat baffling. if you disagree with the application of the law you still allow it to be applied? I mean, no government system is perfect, but hey, I think I just found a bug..


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  • #52
    Timmyctc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭Timmyctc


    seamus wrote: »
    That's Islam for ye. Loves and respects women, and is very tolerant.

    Magdeline Laundries and Child raping paedo priests. Yeah us(irish) Catholics aren't too great on the love and respect ach oiread unfortunately :( awful story this is. How can lashings still be an enforced law in somewhere thats a popular tourist destination for people in 'fully developed' countries like?


  • #53
    Madam_X
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    Timmyctc wrote: »
    Magdeline Laundries and Child raping paedo priests. Yeah us(irish) Catholics aren't too great on the love and respect ach oiread unfortunately :(
    Man... why do people keep saying this stuff, as if "we" on this thread are responsible for the above, as if it's acceptable today and enshrined in society/law.


  • #54
    Timmyctc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭Timmyctc


    Madam_X wrote: »
    Man... why do people keep saying this stuff, as if "we" on this thread are responsible for the above, as if it's acceptable today and enshrined in society/law.

    I just mean Ireland I say we when referring to Ireland alot.. (If ye can take pride in your country ye have to be prepared to be ashamed of it to unfortunately). Its not acceptable today but unfortunately some countries develop at different paces to others. I'm just pointing out that we havent a great record when it comes to human rights in the past especially when catholicism is involved. Saying that this is Islams fault isn't entirely justified.


  • #55
    Madam_X
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    Yeh I know it's only certain practitioners of fundamentalist Islam who are to blame (it's unfair to say all muslims believe/practise the extreme stuff) but there are no excuses.


  • #56
    Timmyctc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭Timmyctc


    Madam_X wrote: »
    Yeh I know it's only certain practitioners of fundamentalist Islam who are to blame (it's unfair to say all muslims believe/practise the extreme stuff) but there are no excuses.

    I'm not trying to condone this believe me, maybe I phrased it poorly. (it is quite late :P ) but to condemn an entire religion based on this is unfair. As all religions (and as I pointed out Catholicism in this country) have huge scourges on their names.


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