15 year old girl gets 100 lashes for getting raped by her father

KenSwee

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21595814

This is truly shocking.
A 15 year old girl has been sentenced to 100 lashes for sexual conduct.
Her "sexual conduct" was being raped by her father, who incidentally killed the baby she had for him.

"Zaima Nasheed, a spokesperson for the juvenile court, said the girl was also ordered to remain under house arrest at a children's home for eight months.
She defended the punishment, saying the girl had willingly committed an act outside of the law.
Officials said she would receive the punishment when she turns 18, unless she requested it earlier."


It beggars belief that this is carried on in so called tourism states.
That's me done with ever visiting that kip.

cournioni

Scumbags.

Ush1

Richard Dawkins posted this on his twitter, absolutely unbelievable. Tragic.

And now the Maldives have joined the list of states that will never see a cent of my tourist money.

The only way to force these places to rethink their more archaic ways is to hit them economically.

floggg

KenSwee wrote: »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21595814

This is truly shocking.
A 15 year old girl has been sentenced to 100 lashes for sexual conduct.
Her "sexual conduct" was being raped by her father, who incidentally killed the baby she had for him.

"Zaima Nasheed, a spokesperson for the juvenile court, said the girl was also ordered to remain under house arrest at a children's home for eight months.
She defended the punishment, saying the girl had willingly committed an act outside of the law.
Officials said she would receive the punishment when she turns 18, unless she requested it earlier."


It beggars belief that this is carried on in so called tourism states.
That's me done with ever visiting that kip.

Not defending the punishment or existence of such a backwards and barbaric legal system, but the article clearly states that the sexual conduct for which she was convicted wasn't with the step-father.

Presumably she is being punished for sex with a third party (whether consensual or not), which is in itself wrong.

Why is this more unacceptable in a tourist state? Its wrong regardless of whether or not you're likely to ever go there

Kylo Ren

Your title is wrong. You must not of read the story. She is not being lashed for being raped by her father, the lashings are for a separate occasion where she had consensual sex.

It's still obviously terrible.

Chucky the tree

From the article

Prosecutors said her conviction did not relate to the rape case.

smash

"Officials said she would receive the punishment when she turns 18, unless she requested it earlier."

That girl should be taken out of the country and never brought back!

nucker

Disgusting, I hate these so called dads

Soups123

floggg wrote: »

Not defending the punishment or existence of such a backwards and barbaric legal system, but the article clearly states that the sexual conduct for which she was convicted wasn't with the step-father.

Presumably she is being punished for sex with a third party (whether consensual or not), which is in itself wrong.

Why is this more unacceptable in a tourist state? Its wrong regardless of whether or not you're likely to ever go there

Maybe they are sex tourists they dont appreaciate the added risks

floggg

Candie wrote: »

And now the Maldives have joined the list of states that will never see a cent of my tourist money.

The only way to force these places to rethink their more archaic ways is to hit them economically.

There was tonnes of sanctions against Afghanistan and the Taliban prior to the US invasion but it didn't affect them.

I actually think cultural isolation only allows this sort of backwards thinking to thrive longer, as there is no challenge to this love of thinking.

In fact, isolation probably helped the Taliban maintain their grip as it meant there were no outside influences to undermine or challenge their way of thinking.

Chucky the tree

Chucky the tree wrote: »

From the article

Which doesn't mean its a different person, although I suppose it must be.

Can the father be charged with rape, and her with fornication, because all sexual activity outside marriage is illegal in Maldives?

brokenarms

Prosecutors said her conviction did not relate to the rape case.

What does this mean?

Did she agree to having sex or was she raped , or is she being punished for having sex underage . With her dad?

Is there any other links to this?
The BBC have been known to twist the hell out of a story.

If a court judged on this punishment then there must be more than meets the eye. Not saying its justice. But the BBC love a bit of drama.

D1stant

Well theres some silver lining for global warming. How many glaciers need to melt in order to submerge this sh1thole?

Duggy747

She's not getting 100 lashes for getting raped, change the thread title.

Still, a fairly common and disgusting backwards punishment that prevails in some isolated areas.

Rasmus

KenSwee wrote: »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21595814

This is truly shocking.
A 15 year old girl has been sentenced to 100 lashes for sexual conduct.
Her "sexual conduct" was being raped by her father, who incidentally killed the baby she had for him.

"Zaima Nasheed, a spokesperson for the juvenile court, said the girl was also ordered to remain under house arrest at a children's home for eight months.
She defended the punishment, saying the girl had willingly committed an act outside of the law.
Officials said she would receive the punishment when she turns 18, unless she requested it earlier."


It beggars belief that this is carried on in so called tourism states.
That's me done with ever visiting that kip.

This is tragic, but you have extrapolated something from the story that is neither wholly correct or accurate. Your thread title is misleading and so is your summary. The article is not even detailed enough for us to make a good assumption.
Saying that, this **** is frightful and I would echo a sentiment above that this is another place I won't be visiting in the future.

Juicyfruit

KenSwee wrote: »

This is truly shocking.
A 15 year old girl has been sentenced to 100 lashes for sexual conduct.
Her "sexual conduct" was being raped by her father, who incidentally killed the baby she had for him..

This is completely untrue - did you even read the article.

It clearly states it is for a separate incident.

floggg

floggg wrote: »

There was tonnes of sanctions against Afghanistan and the Taliban prior to the US invasion but it didn't affect them.

I actually think cultural isolation only allows this sort of backwards thinking to thrive longer, as there is no challenge to this love of thinking.

In fact, isolation probably helped the Taliban maintain their grip as it meant there were no outside influences to undermine or challenge their way of thinking.

Sanctions have also been used quite effectively in other areas of the world though. Does anyone really feel that North Korea shouldn't be sanctioned by the rest of the world? How about China's human rights record? If they want to take their place among the economic giants more visibly, how could sanctions be used to manipulate them into behaving more acceptably by international standards?

In a country utterly dependent on the tourist dollar, people voting with their bookings would cause a catastrophic fall in the national income. The pressure to reverse that fall would very likely result in a more compassionate review of the law if its clear that that's what peoples objection was.

The Taliban operated in a country devastated by war, fuelled with those schooled in the Mullah strongholds of the Pakistani refugee camps. There was no tourist industry to keep sweet, no volumes of foreign trade to protect. One of, if not the largest industry, was illegal anyway, drug production. There isn't much of a working comparison to be made.

Chucky the tree

Candie wrote: »

Which doesn't mean its a different person, although I suppose it must be.

Can the father be charged with rape, and her with fornication, because all sexual activity outside marriage is illegal in Maldives?

It's possible the sex was consensual but the father is being charged with statutory rape.

Gee_G

Jesus Christ. Absolutely horrendous.

Its kids like her that I would just love to adopt and give her a proper chance in life. Horrible treatment

seamus

That's Islam for ye. Loves and respects women, and is very tolerant.

krudler

Hope someone gets her out of there before any of this comes about, fcuking animals.

JuliusCaesar

seamus wrote: »

That's Islam for ye. Loves and respects women, and is very tolerant.

yes, whereas there's no misogyny here at all.... (especially in After Hours!)

seamus

Thankfully after hours doesn't have any say in Irish law...

floggg

Candie wrote: »

Sanctions have also been used quite effectively in other areas of the world though. Does anyone really feel that North Korea shouldn't be sanctioned by the rest of the world? How about China's human rights record? If they want to take their place among the economic giants more visibly, how could sanctions be used to manipulate them into behaving more acceptably by international standards?

In a country utterly dependent on the tourist dollar, people voting with their bookings would cause a catastrophic fall in the national income. The pressure to reverse that fall would very likely result in a more compassionate review of the law if its clear that that's what peoples objection was.

The Taliban operated in a country devastated by war, fuelled with those schooled in the Mullah strongholds of the Pakistani refugee camps. There was no tourist industry to keep sweet, no volumes of foreign trade to protect. One of, if not the largest industry, was illegal anyway, drug production. There isn't much of a working comparison to be made.

Sanctions haven't proved successful at all in securing regime change in North Korea. Nor in Iran. Nor in Iraq back in Sadaam's days.

In Iraq however (by way of example) it meant life for ordinary citizens became a lot harder than it might have otherwise been, as they were often denied access to things like medicines/drugs and resulted on higher prices.

In fact, of you look at the way Korea and China block Internet access, regulate media and travel rights (in and out) etc they clearly don't want outside influences and ways of thinking reaching their populations as its easier to control them and restrict rights if you can keep them ignorant and prevent news of abuses or atrocities escaping.

Free access to laptops and the Internet would probably do a lot more to change attitudes than isolation would.

wp_rathead

There is no need to over sensationalise OP - the facts are shocking enough on their own merits
Disgusting regime

krudler

JuliusCaesar wrote: »

yes, whereas there's no misogyny here at all.... (especially in After Hours!)

Link to instances where women have been whipped this year for having sex in Ireland?

didnt think so.

mackg

krudler wrote: »

Link to instances where while women have been whipped this year for while having sex in Ireland?

didnt think so.

This I can do but can't be 100% certain it's Ireland

Seachmall

seamus wrote: »

That's Islam for ye. Loves and respects women, and is very tolerant.

These teachings are in the books of all the Abrahamic religions, it's not just Islam.


It's the Islamic people of these particular nations who are at fault for adhering to such a disgusting religious law. At least most Christians read Deuteronomy and think "LOL! NO THANKS!". But that's a progression in people's thinking, not the religion.

tin79

brokenarms wrote: »

Prosecutors said her conviction did not relate to the rape case.

What does this mean?

Did she agree to having sex or was she raped , or is she being punished for having sex underage . With her dad?

Is there any other links to this?
The BBC have been known to twist the hell out of a story.

If a court judged on this punishment then there must be more than meets the eye. Not saying its justice. But the BBC love a bit of drama.

What the fu*k are you smoking? Do you know what the word "coherent" means?

Death and Taxes

KenSwee wrote: »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21595814

This is truly shocking.
A 15 year old girl has been sentenced to 100 lashes for sexual conduct.
Her "sexual conduct" was being raped by her father, who incidentally killed the baby she had for him.

"Zaima Nasheed, a spokesperson for the juvenile court, said the girl was also ordered to remain under house arrest at a children's home for eight months.
She defended the punishment, saying the girl had willingly committed an act outside of the law.
Officials said she would receive the punishment when she turns 18, unless she requested it earlier."


It beggars belief that this is carried on in so called tourism states.
That's me done with ever visiting that kip.

Absolutley fúking disgusting!
It defies belief!

mccarthy37

Hard to believe this is happening in the 21st century. Here we are shocked by revelations about the Magdaline Laundries that only closed in the 90's in this country. Is there any religion that doesn't view sex as an evil act. The most natural act between a consenting couple seems to be the greatest sin of all. I mean you have to question the belief of a religion that believes the mother of Jesus is a virgin. This poor girl was raped that is not a sexual act it is purely an evil violent act the father in law should be facing a jail sentence.

Yakult

Good to see the world continues to be a ****ed up place. :rolleyes:

CreepingDeath

Candie wrote: »

And now the Maldives have joined the list of states that will never see a cent of my tourist money.

It's nothing that time and the predicted sea level rise won't cure.

Islands threatened by climate change

AlekSmart

Yakult wrote: »

Good to see the world continues to be a ****ed up place. :rolleyes:

One wonders,in the context of the "Multiculuralism-Who wants it" thread elsewhere,whether countries which are the main inbound beneficiaries of the Multicultural revolution need to get some what more pro-active about which elements they are required to accept without demurring.

With the Maldives supposedly run under a hybrid legal system combining elements of UK Common Law and Islamic Sharia Law,there really should be a debate about just what the "Mix" is in the place.

Serious adherents to Sharia principles see us Christians as being of dubious worth unless we repent and accept the teachings of their prophet.

Therefore,I believe it's definitely an issue for non-islamic countries to be somewhat more definite in advising prospective immigrants as to what elements of their beliefs are NOT tolerable in our Western culture.....and the nonsensical,yet sadly all too prevelant,carry-on described in the report fits this bill exactly.

Morag

seamus wrote: »

Thankfully after hours doesn't have any say in Irish law...

Really?

Ok not the law but the course of Justice.

If someone you cared about was raped and it went to court and the jury was made up of a selection of AH posters, how comfortable would you be with justice being served and there being a conviction?

noxqs

Disgusting - words cannot describe how barbaric, cruel and backwards Sharia law countries are. They're a cancer and a disgrace to humanity.

Im sure we pay these kind of countries a lot of money in foreign aid, and the only question to that is why? Its condoning things like this with a wad of yearly cash. The developed world has to put its foot down and demand that the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is followed to the letter as a bare minimum for receiving a single cent.

It makes me sick that this goes on in 2013.

Son Of A Vidic

seamus wrote: »

That's Islam for ye. Loves and respects women, and is very tolerant.

No more than the Catholic Church and its treatment of women as second class citizens. Not overlooking of course, its well documented fondness for raping children and the concealment of such hideous crimes.

seamus

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

No more than the Catholic Church and its treatment of women as second class citizens. Not overlooking of course, its well documented fondness for raping children and the concealment of such hideous crimes.

Yep. They all need to be put on a big boat and sunk to the bottom of the pacific.

If someone you cared about was raped and it went to court and the jury was made up of a selection of AH posters, how comfortable would you be with justice being served and there being a conviction?

AH posters? I'd actually be exceptionally confident of a conviction because AH posters tend to be very reactionary and quick to assume guilt

I know what you're saying, but AH isn't even for a second a good reflection of the general public.

Son Of A Vidic

seamus wrote: »

Yep. They all need to be put on a big boat and sunk to the bottom of the pacific.

A much more agreeable post indeed.

jme2010

Keno 92 wrote: »

Your title is wrong. You must not of read the story. She is not being lashed for being raped by her father, the lashings are for a separate occasion where she had consensual sex.

It's still obviously terrible.

Agree its terrible but the title should have read:

15 year old girl gets 100 lashes for getting lashed out of it

space_man

i'm NOT a feminist by any means (just ask my missus!), far from it.
but it's a fact that women, girls, female babies, female feotuses are being murdered globally (predominately in LDCs) by the 10s of 1,000s every day. Muslim states are not good places to be a female, neither is India nor China. The stats are truly shocking, and is often and rightly referred to as "FEMICIDE".

this is just another example of this deplorable treatment of females worldwide.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femicide

BlaasForRafa

mccarthy37 wrote: »

Hard to believe this is happening in the 21st century.

Not hard to believe at all. Wherever you have Sharia Law you have the chance of something barbaric and monstrous occurring.

pabloh999

Such a beautiful place inhabited by such disgusting animals

steddyeddy

I hope that judge and the girls father die screaming. Poor girl. I hope she has a better life in the future . As long as she moves out of this cesspit.

Rezident

I'm guessing this is an Islamic country. What is wrong with these people?

space_man

Yakult wrote: »

Good to see the world continues to be a ****ed up place. :rolleyes:

why? have you been away?

JuliusCaesar

JuliusCaesar wrote: »

yes, whereas there's no misogyny here at all.... (especially in After Hours!)

seamus wrote: »

Thankfully after hours doesn't have any say in Irish law...

krudler wrote: »

Link to instances where women have been whipped this year for having sex in Ireland?

didnt think so.

Just allowed die, rather than allowed have an abortion.

Just given symphyiotomies instead of being treated properly.

Yes, misogyny is common in all areas of life in Ireland, and this is reflected in our society and in our laws.

Madam_X

Candie wrote: »

Sanctions have also been used quite effectively in other areas of the world though. Does anyone really feel that North Korea shouldn't be sanctioned by the rest of the world? How about China's human rights record? If they want to take their place among the economic giants more visibly, how could sanctions be used to manipulate them into behaving more acceptably by international standards?

In a country utterly dependent on the tourist dollar, people voting with their bookings would cause a catastrophic fall in the national income. The pressure to reverse that fall would very likely result in a more compassionate review of the law if its clear that that's what peoples objection was.

But until then, wouldn't ordinary people suffer due to lack of tourism revenue?

JuliusCaesar wrote: »

Just allowed die, rather than allowed have an abortion.

Just given symphyiotomies instead of being treated properly.

Yes, misogyny is common in all areas of life in Ireland, and this is reflected in our society and in our laws.

As a woman, I find Ireland a far better place to live in than a Sharia society. And really dislike people trying to imply it's as bad here as it is in societies such as the one in the OP so therefore "we cannot criticise Islamic fundamentalism"... undermines what people suffer in such societies - as if they wouldn't do anything to live in a society as free as this one.

Surely we can criticise both.

How is misogyny reflected in our laws? Ireland today is very different to Ireland 40/50 years ago - and a million times better a place to live in for women than e.g. Pakistan. And I ain't a fan of misogyny.

space_man

Madam_X wrote: »

As a woman, I find Ireland a far better place to live in than a Sharia society. And really dislike people trying to imply it's as bad here as it is in societies such as the one in the OP... undermines what people suffer in such societies.

i totally agree. to seek to compare ireland with some of these places where sharia law is endemic is moronic.
i cannot remember the last time we beheaded a woman for adultery. can you?

Overheal

The government said it did not agree with the punishment and that it would look into changing the law.

thats somewhat baffling. if you disagree with the application of the law you still allow it to be applied? I mean, no government system is perfect, but hey, I think I just found a bug..