Why are the Irish in Oz not...

Melion · 27-02-2013 04:57PM

My best mate is in Oz working all the hours possible to pay his mortgage, he has helped his sister out when she needed a bit of money last year, he has helped me out with a bit of money a few weeks ago. He is 30 this year and will have his mortage paid off by this time next year. Who should he send money to and why?

ardinn · 27-02-2013 04:58PM

Melion wrote: »

My best mate is in Oz working all the hours possible to pay his mortgage, he has helped his sister out when she needed a bit of money last year, he has helped me out with a bit of money a few weeks ago. He is 30 this year and will have his mortage paid off by this time next year. Who should he send money to and why?

Well he sent you and his sister money!!

Eh?? I dont see your point - this is exactly what I mean!

NegativeCreep · 27-02-2013 05:03PM

Where To wrote: »

It's not that ridiculous, don't forget yhat large swathes of this country were built almost solely on repatriated money, and still are today.

In fairness, it's ridiculous. If I went off to Australia, why the hell would I send my money back to Ireland?

Electric Sheep · 27-02-2013 05:03PM

ardinn wrote: »

Well he sent you and his sister money!!

Eh?? I dont see your point - this is exactly what I mean!

Funny how nothing changes over 100 years - the ones sitting on their holes at home expecting money to be sent to them for free by the ones who get up off their arse, emigrate and work hard.

Were you sending money to your relatives in America and Australia during the Celtic Bubble?

Thomas_I · 27-02-2013 05:04PM

ardinn wrote: »

Sending money back home???

I cant understand why the people who have left our shores and have found work abroad are not doing this.

The eastern European citizens that came here in the boom all did this and sent millions back to their home countries - It beggars belief that our young adults are not doing this when the country is in dire need of help. As far as I can see our young people are over there making good money and p*issing it up against a wall.

Im not sure of the figures, but if say there was 50k Irish abroad working, Sending €100 a month home, that equates to €60m a year.

Its not much, but it's a start!!

They were not supporting their country, they were supporting their families and that´s a big difference. What you´re suggesting is some alimentation of the State as the Americans do by extra taxation for US Citizens working abroad.

Boombastic · 27-02-2013 05:06PM

To anyone in OZ, please send your money home. Here is the address

Boombastic
1 Boombastic road
Boombastic Town

IRELAND <<<Just get it to Ireland, They'll know what to do with it there :pac:

HondaSami · 27-02-2013 05:10PM

ardinn wrote: »

Sending money back home???

I cant understand why the people who have left our shores and have found work abroad are not doing this.

The eastern European citizens that came here in the boom all did this and sent millions back to their home countries - It beggars belief that our young adults are not doing this when the country is in dire need of help. As far as I can see our young people are over there making good money and p*issing it up against a wall.

Im not sure of the figures, but if say there was 50k Irish abroad working, Sending €100 a month home, that equates to €60m a year.

Its not much, but it's a start!!

I'm not sure what you mean here.

Are you saying family member should send money home to their families so they can spend more here creating revenue for the country?
or you suggesting people give money to the government ? because that would be a mad idea.

giant_midget · 27-02-2013 05:15PM

Jasus sure if they "sent money back" what would the owner of the Tea Gardens do?...poor man would have to close the place! :pac:

http://www.teagardenshotel.com.au/gallery

SunnyDub1 · 27-02-2013 05:16PM

Take my situation for example.

after spending 3 years studying,I am lucky enough to have full time employment here, not the ideal job for what i spent 3 years studying for but it pays.

Decided that I am gonna go to Oz in sept for the year, for travel, experience, something different and hopefully get some work in the sector I am qualified for.
while both my parents are also lucky to be in full time employment and are able to pay their who are you suggesting I send my future earned cash back here to?

Sorry but if some people of Ireland can't afford to pay their way and are struggling maybe they should get on a plane and find work. Not expect others to go work aboard and send it home to them

HondaSami · 27-02-2013 05:24PM

SunnyDub1 wrote: »

to?

Sorry but if some people of Ireland can't afford to pay their way and are struggling maybe they should get on a plane and find work. Not expect others to go work aboard and send it home to them

Not everyone can travel, some families have young children, children in school, it's not as easy for a family to emigrate.
It's not unusual for families to help each other out, I always sent money to my parents when I knew they needed it and my brothers and sisters still help each other out if needed.

Irishcrx · 27-02-2013 05:29PM

New taxes for 2014.

*Postal tax
*Transfer tax
*Immigration tax
*Reverse immigration tax
*Tax tax

SunnyDub1 · 27-02-2013 05:29PM

HondaSami wrote: »

Not everyone can travel, some families have young children, children in school, it's not as easy for a family to emigrate.
It's not unusual for families to help each other out, I always sent money to my parents when I knew they needed it and my brothers and sisters still help each other out if needed.

That's understandable but I think it's unfair for anyone to expect the people who are fortunate enough to travel and work to send money back home here.

Don't get me wrong, if I had family that needed help financially I'd happily help. But I'm not traveling across the world to earn money for a country I no longer live in.

padd b1975 · 27-02-2013 05:29PM

gobnaitolunacy wrote: »

Because it's not the 1950's anymore.

It was going on a lot more recent than the 1950s. My Dad worked away in the 80's and early 90's, without the money he worked hard for, and the basic life he lived, we, as a family would have been in serious trouble.

HondaSami · 27-02-2013 05:30PM

SunnyDub1 wrote: »

That's understandable but I think it's unfair for anyone to expect the people who are fortunate enough to travel and work to send money back home here.

Don't get me wrong, if I had family that needed help financially I'd happily help. But I'm not traveling across the world to earn money for a country I no longer live in.

I'm not sure what the OP actually means tbh, if he is saying give money to the country then that's silly.

kylith · 27-02-2013 05:32PM

It'd never get here, what with An Post regularly checking envelopes for cash.

Where To · 27-02-2013 05:35PM

padd b1975 wrote: »

It was going on a lot more recent than the 1950s. My Dad worked away in the 80's and early 90's, without the money he worked hard for, and the basic life he lived, we, as a family would have been in serious trouble.

Still happening today padd, I'm very grateful to the 'queen's head' for keeping me in the lifestyle I am accustomed to.

Kevhog1988 · 27-02-2013 06:15PM

padd b1975 wrote: »

It was going on a lot more recent than the 1950s. My Dad worked away in the 80's and early 90's, without the money he worked hard for, and the basic life he lived, we, as a family would have been in serious trouble.

I work away at the moment and tbh struggle to survive.... See my son (lives in ireland) for 12 hours every two weeks with a average cost of 300 per visit home to see him (including travelling to and from airport on both sides) If i only did a flat week each week i would actually be minus 160 at the end of the month. However my time outside of them 24 hours per month is dedicated almost entirely to work, doing overtime, cash in hand bit of buying and selling cars etc. As soon as im home my dads car is filled to the brim with diesel (dads been out of work a year for the first time since he was 13 years old) and my little sister gets a few quid towards college costs depending on what i have spare. Im in the same situation as at least 5/6 people i know whos every penny goes to supporting there children and or extended family.

P_1 · 27-02-2013 06:17PM

Why should they send money home?

old hippy · 27-02-2013 06:23PM

Hasn't dear old Ireland taken enough out of those of us who left?

padd b1975 · 27-02-2013 06:27PM

theemigrant wrote: »

I work away at the moment and tbh struggle to survive.... See my son (lives in ireland) for 12 hours every two weeks with a average cost of 300 per visit home to see him (including travelling to and from airport on both sides) If i only did a flat week each week i would actually be minus 160 at the end of the month. However my time outside of them 24 hours per month is dedicated almost entirely to work, doing overtime, cash in hand bit of buying and selling cars etc. As soon as im home my dads car is filled to the brim with diesel (dads been out of work a year for the first time since he was 13 years old) and my little sister gets a few quid towards college costs depending on what i have spare. Im in the same situation as at least 5/6 people i know whos every penny goes to supporting there children and or extended family.

Yeah I understand how it can be tough to emigrate but still struggle financially.

At least back in the 80's there was good money to be made in England.

Channel tunnel and Canary Wharf to name just two well paying projects.

My Dad was far from alone in the sacrifice he made back then, basically working and sleeping in a sh1tty bedsit or onsite caravan.

No cheap flights back then either.

Basically we saw him at Christmas and summer, maybe at Easter.

giant_midget · 27-02-2013 06:27PM

old hippy wrote: »

Hasn't dear old Ireland taken enough out of those of us who left?

Nope..it's 2013 "The Grabbing"

padd b1975 · 27-02-2013 06:29PM

P_1 wrote: »

Why should they send money home?

Of course they don't have to, but throw a mortgage and some children into the mix and you are into the world of adult responsibilities.

padd b1975 · 27-02-2013 06:30PM

old hippy wrote: »

Hasn't dear old Ireland taken enough out of those of us who left?

Its taken a lot more out of those of us that have stayed.

AndyTheDude · 27-02-2013 06:31PM

ardinn wrote: »

The eastern European citizens that came here in the boom all did this and sent millions back to their home countries

Not me. I spent it all on weed and hash here, doing my bit in supporting the local economy. Never been happier.

old hippy · 27-02-2013 06:33PM

padd b1975 wrote: »

Its taken a lot more out of those of us that have stayed.

I hear you but it's not always the easiest choice to make, to leave your family and friends and your place of birth behind.

Kevhog1988 · 27-02-2013 06:36PM

padd b1975 wrote: »

Yeah I understand how it can be tough to emigrate but still struggle financially.

At least back in the 80's there was good money to be made in England.

Channel tunnel and Canary Wharf to name just two well paying projects.

My Dad was far from alone in the sacrifice he made back then, basically working and sleeping in a sh1tty bedsit or onsite caravan.

No cheap flights back then either.

Basically we saw him at Christmas and summer, maybe at Easter.

I dont find the flights that cheap when you take into account travelling to and from airport etc. Costs me the guts of 300 quid to get home every second weekend. Cant plan flights as i have to take access time by time until court process is complete. It doesnt help that my ex thinks its her god given right to drain every penny i earn from me.

kingtut · 27-02-2013 06:47PM

The dole cheats (i.e. those on the dole and also working cash in hand) are already getting enough of my money, I have no intention of giving them anymore !

Littlehorny · 27-02-2013 07:11PM

Because Eastern Europeans came here during the boom when wages were rocketting while at home wages were tiny in comparision. If you were sending home 500 euro a month during the boom and a relative was saving it for you after 4 to 5 years you had about 20 to 25 k which in Eastern Europe bought you a house. During the boom alot of foreign workers came here with a 5 year plan. Also sending home 50 euro a week to the parents of someone from East Europe is a big help when the average monthly salary was 150 euro a month at the time.

ardinn · 27-02-2013 08:07PM

Thomas_I wrote: »

They were not supporting their country, they were supporting their families and that´s a big difference. What you´re suggesting is some alimentation of the State as the Americans do by extra taxation for US Citizens working abroad.

Wait a sec - If thats what has been picked up from my op I do apologise - Sending money home to their own families is what I meant. Not to the state!!

ardinn · 27-02-2013 08:10PM

HondaSami wrote: »

I'm not sure what you mean here.

Are you saying family member should send money home to their families so they can spend more here creating revenue for the country?
or you suggesting people give money to the government ? because that would be a mad idea.

Yes money home to their own families - Sorry for the confusion!

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