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Arsenium · 19-02-2013 10:59AM

Hello,

I imagine this has been posted before and maybe answered so apologies in advance.

I have a Mulberry stove. However the back boiler is not working and the fire box has fallen forward in it. The pipes corroded in it a while ago so I disconnected it and it now just heats the room.

I am in the process of getting a new stove but was wondering about the possibility of replacing the old boiler. Is that possible? And if so how much would a new boiler cost?

If I go ahead and get a new stove, I intend to move the old stove to my kitchen and use it to heat the kitchen. This will involve breaking a hole in the wall and installing a steel chimney. I believe this material is very expensive? Anyone know the price?

Arsenium · 19-02-2013 12:20PM

Arsenium wrote: »

Hello,

I imagine this has been posted before and maybe answered so apologies in advance.

I have a Mulberry stove. However the back boiler is not working and the fire box has fallen forward in it. The pipes corroded in it a while ago so I disconnected it and it now just heats the room.

I am in the process of getting a new stove but was wondering about the possibility of replacing the old boiler. Is that possible? And if so how much would a new boiler cost?

If I go ahead and get a new stove, I intend to move the old stove to my kitchen and use it to heat the kitchen. This will involve breaking a hole in the wall and installing a steel chimney. I believe this material is very expensive? Anyone know the price?

Update: Seems the stove I have is not actually a Mulberry at all. I have no idea what it is. I have attached a pic of the side of the stove. Anyone able to enlighten me what brand of stove this?

Southie40 · 19-02-2013 10:50PM

blue100 wrote: »

Not really, Southie. I think the output from boiler stoves ie heats up to x rads, generally refers to standard single rads, but other posters her point out that it's a lot more complex than that as it depends on the room size and other factors too. Sorry can't be of any assistance.

Ok thanks blue

Southie40 · 19-02-2013 10:53PM

stephen_k wrote: »

No experience of these stoves and I can't seem to get any information on the 25kw stove on any catalogue on line... However I assume that it gives 5/6 kw to the room leaving 20kw to the boiler which sounds sufficient for your needs... Best of luck with it...

Hi steven just wondering if you have any experience of sizing a boiler stove for solo radiators???

Sean_OC · 20-02-2013 05:11PM

i have recently had a hamco stove installed and it was great for the first two weeks but over the past few days it has been filling the room with smoke. i got advice and was told to get an extra half a meter pipe (the flue is a twin wall system) and this did not help! i then changed the cowl for an anti downdraught cowl but this has only stopped it from pouring out and now it just puffs but quite frequently. i can't even open the door to load fuel anymore or else the room fills with smoke and ashes! there is a very strong breeze when you do open the door. i would really appreciate any suggestions thanks for your time.IMG00203-20130220-1527.jpg

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Dtp79 · 20-02-2013 05:42PM

Sean_OC wrote: »

i have recently had a hamco stove installed and it was great for the first two weeks but over the past few days it has been filling the room with smoke. i got advice and was told to get an extra half a meter pipe (the flue is a twin wall system) and this did not help! i then changed the cowl for an anti downdraught cowl but this has only stopped it from pouring out and now it just puffs but quite frequently. i can't even open the door to load fuel anymore or else the room fills with smoke and ashes! there is a very strong breeze when you do open the door. i would really appreciate any suggestions thanks for your time.IMG00203-20130220-1527.jpg

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The reason it's not working properly is because the stove is not centred between the windows!! Kidding
I'd say you'll have to go higher with your flue. At least over the ridge

Robbie.G · 20-02-2013 07:19PM

Sean_OC wrote: »

i have recently had a hamco stove installed and it was great for the first two weeks but over the past few days it has been filling the room with smoke. i got advice and was told to get an extra half a meter pipe (the flue is a twin wall system) and this did not help! i then changed the cowl for an anti downdraught cowl but this has only stopped it from pouring out and now it just puffs but quite frequently. i can't even open the door to load fuel anymore or else the room fills with smoke and ashes! there is a very strong breeze when you do open the door. i would really appreciate any suggestions thanks for your time.IMG00203-20130220-1527.jpg

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Your flue should be a min of 4.5 mtrs long
It looks a bit short to me.Is there a vent in the room also take a pic of back of stove and were flue comes through wall I would say you have also a problem there

TomOnBoard · 21-02-2013 01:20AM

Arsenium wrote: »

Update: Seems the stove I have is not actually a Mulberry at all. I have no idea what it is. I have attached a pic of the side of the stove. Anyone able to enlighten me what brand of stove this?

The side knob looks like what you'd find on one of the Chinese jobbies such as SunRain.

stephen_k · 21-02-2013 10:08AM

Southie40 wrote: »

Hi steven just wondering if you have any experience of sizing a boiler stove for solo radiators???

Sorry Southie none at all, I did look at the Solo site when I saw your previous posts, but not much info on there about what KW outputs they are and how to size a boiler for them, have Solo been unable help you??

stephen_k · 21-02-2013 10:33AM

Sean_OC wrote: »

i have recently had a hamco stove installed and it was great for the first two weeks but over the past few days it has been filling the room with smoke. i got advice and was told to get an extra half a meter pipe (the flue is a twin wall system) and this did not help! i then changed the cowl for an anti downdraught cowl but this has only stopped it from pouring out and now it just puffs but quite frequently. i can't even open the door to load fuel anymore or else the room fills with smoke and ashes! there is a very strong breeze when you do open the door. i would really appreciate any suggestions thanks for your time.IMG00203-20130220-1527.jpg

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Your flue should be a min of 1000mm above the pitch of the roof that its against, also the top of the flue should be 2300mm horizontally away from the roof... If the flue is within 2300mm from the adjoining building then it will also have to be a min of 600mm above that roof...

I would also check the size of your air vent in the room, might not be getting enough air... This looks like a 16kw stove? As per the irish building regs you need and air supply of 16x450 = 7200mm2 free air and no less than 6500mm2 free air

HTH

Builder3 · 21-02-2013 01:28PM

Can anyone help me with a hestia insert boiler stove.... Wondering has anyone installed the hestia and how it is doing for ya? Thinking about getting one myself. All help appreciated , thanks

galboy · 21-02-2013 03:06PM

Can anyone help.
We have an old Stanley Super 80 Range that we converted into oil but now, we notice it seems to be eating the oil. What to do?

Thanks.

newtothis2011 · 22-02-2013 01:13PM

For the first couple of hours the glass on my stove door stays clean but towards the end of the night its all black, Im guessing theres no way to avoid this unless i run it at max all night??

MugMugs · 22-02-2013 02:27PM

Just give it a blast of air every hour. Give it a chance to burn away what's on the window?

Maggie Benson · 22-02-2013 02:58PM

newtothis2011 wrote: »

For the first couple of hours the glass on my stove door stays clean but towards the end of the night its all black, Im guessing theres no way to avoid this unless i run it at max all night??

I have the same problem and I think the only solution is to clean it every day, having tried various methods. I find it is easier to clean if you open the stove doors before you go to bed and let them cool down slightly.
However it is the only downside of the stoves and I wouldn't be without it.:D

newtothis2011 · 22-02-2013 03:17PM

I clean it every morning but there one or two small areas that the black wont come off, it needs to be scraped, so obviously i dont want to scratch the glass . The most of it rubs off quite easily. I know its not a big problem and im really happy with the heat were getting in the house

Maggie Benson · 22-02-2013 06:44PM

Have you tried HG stove glass cleaner? I have tried quite a few and fine this is best for my stove glass. Other say ash from the stove works well for them but I didn't find it great.

jamescc · 22-02-2013 08:20PM

hi I have ordered an inset stove I want to set up a dual heating system . can anyone tell me what is involved? How much to set up?

we have an oil burner out the back and we used to have a rayburn fire (took out ) and the water tank is still the same as what was there. we have a stove that is sat on the heart. but it too dangerous, my mother tripped on it and burnt her hand not to bad.

thanks

james

Brianne · 22-02-2013 09:24PM

I leave the air vent over the stove door open all the time and find the glass stays very clear bar a few patches of black at times. We use smokeless coal also.

culsoh · 22-02-2013 09:49PM

If there is air getting into your stove then the glass should stay clear but if you eliminate all the air the glass will probably go black, but if you wanna keep your fire in for longer/overnight it's something you have to deal with I'm afraid.

I find the best thing and easiest thing to use is kitchen roll and ordinary household vinegar. Better than any of the glass cleaners I've used and actually stops it blackening for longer.

sam4kerry · 22-02-2013 10:59PM

Qualitymark wrote: »

If she's burning only wood, the best thing is a handful of ashes. But ashes from anything else will scrape the glass.

With my Clearview the best way to clean the glass, apart from this, is to pull the wood forward in the stove so the heat cleans the glass.

old fashioned brillo pads work for me and it doesnt scratch the glass

Southie40 · 22-02-2013 11:01PM

stephen_k wrote: »

Sorry Southie none at all, I did look at the Solo site when I saw your previous posts, but not much info on there about what KW outputs they are and how to size a boiler for them, have Solo been unable help you??

I have but not great help. All I know is that they use up maybe a ltire of water where a normal rad seemingly uses 10 litres. My situation is I just want to heat downstairs which is 4 solos I double 500x1000 and 3 singles 600x500. My cylinder is 200 litre and I know my room needs 3.5 kw. Any assistance would be great.

Dtp79 · 23-02-2013 11:36AM

sam4kerry wrote: »

old fashioned brillo pads work for me and it doesnt scratch the glass

Can't beat the Brillo.

yabadabado · 23-02-2013 05:20PM

anyone have recommendations for an inset/insert stove I want it to fit into a standard fireplace will as little work as possible?Any good deals/sales on at the moment.It would need to be a minimum of 6KW output.

TomOnBoard · 24-02-2013 07:38AM

I am looking for basic (non stainless) thin walled steel stove pipe. Where can this be got here in Ireland? All the stove and chimney dealers only seem to have stainless steel or enameled pipe.

Robbie.G · 24-02-2013 09:23AM

TomOnBoard wrote: »

I am looking for basic (non stainless) thin walled steel stove pipe. Where can this be got here in Ireland? All the stove and chimney dealers only seem to have stainless steel or enameled pipe.

There was twin wall made from galv but I dont think its available anymore I'havnt seen it in years.
They were only for oil or gas use

TTTT · 24-02-2013 11:33AM

TomOnBoard wrote: »

I am looking for basic (non stainless) thin walled steel stove pipe. Where can this be got here in Ireland? All the stove and chimney dealers only seem to have stainless steel or enameled pipe.

I got some black single wall (not enameled) from http://kbf.ie with my stove.

MugMugs · 25-02-2013 05:54PM

Dtp79 wrote: »

Can't beat the Brillo.

sam4kerry wrote: »

old fashioned brillo pads work for me and it doesnt scratch the glass

I've heard that doing this can cause issues to the integrity of the glass undermining it's lifespan.

Whilst the effects may not be instantly visible, they apparently are occurring.

cordni · 25-02-2013 07:40PM

I find dipping a damp ball of newspaper in the ashes works all the time for me

TomOnBoard · 25-02-2013 07:41PM

Robbie.G wrote: »

There was twin wall made from galv but I dont think its available anymore I'havnt seen it in years.
They were only for oil or gas use

Hi, I'm looking for thin-wall not twin-wall. Thanks

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