Girls \ Women Slapping Fellas In Public

psinno wrote: »

It seems pretty clear to me that opening a door for an encumbered person isn't what was being talked about.

It seemed to me like it was a case of the person equating it with general manners but assumes it's a form of emasculation if a man does it for a woman.

CruelCoin wrote: »

Once all other things are equal (pay, status, etc), continued door opening, chair moving, etc becomes not a form of politeness/chivalry but rather a form of emasculation as the man is no longer giving for getting, but at that point gives beyond the 50/50 line. That was my point. Nothing resentfull.

I hold the door open for all sorts of people (men, women, old, young, ablebodied or not) all the time and women hold the door open for me all the time... it's just generally basic manners.

The "don't hit girls" rule is pretty deeply programmed at this point... even if they hit you, you don't hit them because they are female.
Not because of manners...
Not because it is wrong to defend yourself...
But because they are female.
And there are women that will hit you knowing, assuming that you won't hit back... that you can't hit back if you do you are some sort of Chris Browne like monster.

I was at octocon last year and there was a talk on violence in fiction... within the first few minutes the discussion shifted from general violence to male on female violence and rape... and there it stayed.
One point it shifted into female on male violence and domestic abuse... I think it lasted about 3 minutes before a woman said "yeah but men rape women" and the rest of the talk went back to female victims of violence.

Years ago when I worked on O'Connoll steet I would regularly see a couple walking along with buggy, the fella getting slapped around the head and shoulders and his mot turning the air blue...
Did people react? No, not even me
Would they have reacted if you swapped the genders? Yes.

marksman74 wrote: »

I would have bet any money had he retaliated in any way, either physically or verbally, some of the other lads in there would have gotten on to him simply because thats what seems to be expected by society and probably because he would have gotten "the ride" off of the girl in question.
These lads werent knackers, they actually seemed fairly normal..that is except for the little bitch from hell in their company

I think most males would protect a girl who's being assaulted by another male, but in a situation like this where a person has been slapped it's well within a man's rights to at least grab her arms together and ask her what she's playing at. Most other males would allow this, unless they're idiotic white knights who defend unscrupulous females.

She sounds like the sort of girl you hear about in the news who glasses somebody in the face then gets off with no punishment whatsoever - all because we're led to believe that females are inherently non violent - or at least much less so compared to males.

Wow from someone in Subway being slapped right through to chivalry, equal rights and sexism.

I think that is a new record, normally have to hit page twenty before that happens.

I would have just grabbed her arms and told her to calm down.
Pouring a drink on her would clearly just escalate things not to mention be a waste of a perfectly good drink.

Candie wrote: »

There have been plenty of threads lately about sex offenders walking away after paying fines or getting bail after serious crimes.

And that guy didn't 'tap' the woman on the bum, he whacked her after following her and scaring her enough to be calling on her phone for help. He was no 'Gentleman'.

Why classify the genders as 'gentlemen' and 'females' anyway? And 'those people'??

Candie, read the thread he linked please. :pac:

Candie wrote: »

He's making a broad statement that females would get away with it though.

She did, but its not par for the course.

Of course the case he linked to is out of line, but its not fair to lump things into gentlemen vs females.

I actually figured you might have been on about the case where the guy followed the girl down the road or whatever
Just so we're clear: I feel like a jackass.

The guy should have done this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXMubJuqfNo

Then told her to "sit the fúck down and eat your sandwich!"

It makes me absolutely sick. But I've given up fighting about it at this point.
NOT because of a barrage of opposition from some angry "feminist" (read: man hating) types, as I'm sure some lads here will claim. That happens, but ignoring trolls isn't difficult, at least for me.

No, because from what I've seen a majority of my fellow men couldn't give a f*ck, and a sizable number of those will go on to actually defend double standards.

Such is the reason men will never have equal rights in the areas in which they are discriminated against. For some reason, a huge number of guys out there actively oppose other lads who don't like double standards. And so they will probably never go away.

Look at it this way - we're constantly told that it's an abomination that our parliament is so overwhelmingly male. Our parliament is also responsible for family law, for the outrageous statue that makes evil rapists and innocent victims out of consensual sexually active teenage boys and girls respectively, etc etc etc. And it's a parliament full of men which is refusing to change any of these.

Sadly, lads, if you want the source of these double standards, I'm afraid you may need to look no further than your fellow man. While there are certainly women out there who love these privileges, there seem from my experience to be an equal number who detest them (particularly those who date separated fathers and see how it is for them). We're constantly berated for the fact that it's lads making all the rules, and it's those very lads who uphold misandrist laws.

Think this over before you blame radical feminists for double standards next time. Trolls only succeed where ordinary people feed them.

jaffacakesyum wrote: »

Sorry but that's BS. I don't know why lots of people think that on boards.ie but it's not true. In this country, men get away with assaulting men, women get away with assaulting men, women get away with assaulting women...it's nothing to do with sexism, it's just our sh1t justice system.

It's not BS. If a girl punched me in the face she'd get a much lighter sentence than if I had punched her in the face - that's the way of the world...obviously people get away with assault sometimes but you cannot claim that no double standard exists in this case