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  • #242
    Tabnabs
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,879 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Celestine - http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/showallphotos.aspx?imo=9125372#top_photo leaving Dublin for Antwerp. Anyone know what she's carrying?


  • #243
    seanmacc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭seanmacc


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    Celestine - http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/showallphotos.aspx?imo=9125372#top_photo leaving Dublin for Antwerp. Anyone know what she's carrying?

    Just been watching it been loaded here on 51A. They've loaded it with a load of bet up old cars and trucks and machinery. Its a regular shipment of this type of cargo, its once every couple of months. You'll often see Stena's yard full of these old vehicles.

    Eventually these cars/trucks ect. are sent to Nigeria where they are brought back to life. Thats what happens to all your old, bet up minibuses, taxis and cars that can't pass the NCT


  • #244
    GreyEagle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 318 ✭✭GreyEagle


    Some years back I met a guy by the poolside in Mombasa who was in the trucking business in the UK. He told me that he spotted one of his trucks, which had seen better days, back in service on the Kenyan roads. We give second lives to Japanese cars, Kenya and Nigeria do the same for our trucks.
    GE


  • #245
    Rocky Bay
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭Rocky Bay


    In October of 2011, I took the ferry from Dublin to Hollyhead. On the bus to the port I noticed many flatbed trailers in the various trailer "lay-up" yards carrying artics/trailers and bits and pieces of artics/trailers none in running condition as far as I could see. Now I know why they were there just wondering if they were headed for scrap in England or the continent.


  • #246
    mp22
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 6,854 Mod ✭✭✭✭mp22


    http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/shipdetails.aspx?mmsi=636013238&header=true

    Anchored in bantry bay since last weekend.


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  • #247
    mp22
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 6,854 Mod ✭✭✭✭mp22


    mp22 wrote: »
    http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/shipdetails.aspx?mmsi=636013238&header=true

    Anchored in bantry bay since last weekend.


    She moved up onto the SPM this morning.


  • #248
    goldie fish
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    Another SPM ready tanker in Whitegate today, made quite a racket when it arrived last night, very noisy engine. I live a few miles from the terminal and thought first that there was a taxi outside the house with its engine running.


    Navion Oslo
    http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/showallphotos.aspx?imo=9209130#top_photo


  • #249
    Storm 10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,042 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    Nice looking German Coastguard ship due to dock in Galway, she was supposed to dock on Friday but is now coming in early due weather.

    http://marinetraffic.com/ais/showallphotos.aspx?imo=9421233


  • #250
    GreyEagle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 318 ✭✭GreyEagle


    Is this a courtesy call or is she operational?


  • #251
    Storm 10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,042 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    Not sure she was due in for the weekend, the last one that came in "Seeadler" was open to the public, I would say its a courtesy call will find out and post. Pictures of "Seeadler" on the link below on Galway Ships under Naval Ships.

    http://galwayships.com/naval_ships/index_01.html

    http://galwayships.com/naval_ships/seeadler_4_120706.html


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  • #252
    jamesdiver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 372 ✭✭jamesdiver


    cool, might go down for a look. looks like they were sheltering behind aran waiting for the tide or else just sightseeing :)


  • #253
    seanmacc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭seanmacc


    Stena Adventurer sitting pretty trying to get into Holyhead. Currently 5 hours late. It must be bad out there.


  • #254
    seanmacc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭seanmacc


    seanmacc wrote: »
    Stena Adventurer sitting pretty trying to get into Holyhead. Currently 5 hours late. It must be bad out there.

    About 8 1/2 hours late. It had to wait for the Finarrow which left Dublin at 04:30 to get in to use it as shelter.


  • #255
    Rocky Bay
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 276 ✭✭Rocky Bay


    seanmacc wrote: »
    About 8 1/2 hours late. It had to wait for the Finarrow which left Dublin at 04:30 to get in to use it as shelter.
    How does one ship use another "for shelter"? Did they cross together, side by side, back to Dublin?


  • #256
    seanmacc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭seanmacc


    Rocky Bay wrote: »
    How does one ship use another "for shelter"? Did they cross together, side by side, back to Dublin?

    If you've ever seen the berths in Holyhead they are very open. Usually during heavy weather on the night crossing the Ulysess and Adventurer which are within a few minutes of each other can use each other as a wind and wave blocker to ease themselves in. The two berths are side by side. There are no tugs in Holyhead to help.

    Most of the time in heavy swell the Adventurer uses the Ulysess as an aid in this way. Unfortunately for the Adventurer it is only running on 3 engines at the moment (out of 4) and probably wasn't keeping close enough to the Ulysess to take advantage of it. It hasn't been keeping a proper schedule the past couple of weeks. This morning the Finnarrow used the Ulysess berth in Holyhead which assisted the Adventurers berthing.

    I feel sorry for those on the Adventurer, after leaving Dublin Circa 21:15 they only got into Holyhead around 08:30 and witnessing a bet up smaller ship which left Dublin at 04:30 get in ahead of it.


  • #257
    GreyEagle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 318 ✭✭GreyEagle


    Why would a ship leave port with one engine inoperative? Is there no standard that requires that all critical items such as engines, steering, electrical, navigation, safety equipment etc be fully serviceable for dispatch? One can put up with knowing that the coffee machine or the movie will not be available but it would be good to know that the fundamentals were all working.


  • #258
    who the fug
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭who the fug


    GreyEagle wrote: »
    Why would a ship leave port with one engine inoperative? Is there no standard that requires that all critical items such as engines, steering, electrical, navigation, safety equipment etc be fully serviceable for dispatch? One can put up with knowing that the coffee machine or the movie will not be available but it would be good to know that the fundamentals were all working.

    Margin of Safety already built in.


  • #259
    seanmacc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭seanmacc


    GreyEagle wrote: »
    Why would a ship leave port with one engine inoperative? Is there no standard that requires that all critical items such as engines, steering, electrical, navigation, safety equipment etc be fully serviceable for dispatch? One can put up with knowing that the coffee machine or the movie will not be available but it would be good to know that the fundamentals were all working.

    Most Ferrys can sail out with two engines out. In heavy swell its just not really recommended to do this. Norse Merchant's Brave Merchant spent months a few years ago on 2 engines doing Dublin-Liverpool in 9-12 hours. I'm sure at the time the Adventurer captain probably didn't think there would be an issue to sail on 3 engines but was proven wrong by a change in conditions. I'd imagine running repairs are going on.

    Those sort of ships being stranded outside port for hours on end is a very regular occurrence on the Southern corridor (Roslare-Fishgaurd/Pembroke) even when ships are on full power. Sometimes you just get unlucky.


  • #260
    GreyEagle
    Closed Accounts Posts: 318 ✭✭GreyEagle


    I can see the logic of building in a margin of safety, say for example where there is electrical generating capacity in excess of requirement to allow for the occasional malfunction of a generator.

    I find it more challenging to accept that a ship would depart, day after day, week after week, with a fault that limits the ship’s operational capability to such an extent that the normal schedule cannot be maintained. At what point does a professional crew decide enough is enough? At what point does a ferry company decide to repair/replace the engine and restore its ship to full serviceability?

    I fully accept that sea conditions can occasionally delay the entry of a ship into port. I would not like to be held on board a ship that could not enter port because it did not have full power available from all engines.


  • #261
    mp22
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 6,854 Mod ✭✭✭✭mp22


    On the SPM in Bantry bay today http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/shipdetails.aspx?mmsi=565605000&header=true


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  • #262
    Tabnabs
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,879 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Very unusual to see something like this in Dun Laoghaire
    http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/shipdetails.aspx?mmsi=246110000&header=true

    And the story here http://afloat.ie/port-news/port-and-shipping-news/item/20939-tanks-for-guinness-docks-in-dun-laoghaire-harbour


  • #263
    HeidiHeidi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,316 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    Very unusual to see something like this in Dun Laoghaire
    http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/shipdetails.aspx?mmsi=246110000&header=true

    And the story here http://afloat.ie/port-news/port-and-shipping-news/item/20939-tanks-for-guinness-docks-in-dun-laoghaire-harbour

    Thank you! I saw this yesterday (very impressive!) and wondered what on earth its cargo was. There were some very interesting guesses/theories doing the rounds!

    Was going to post the question today.


  • #264
    murphym7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭murphym7


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    Very unusual to see something like this in Dun Laoghaire
    http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/shipdetails.aspx?mmsi=246110000&header=true

    And the story here http://afloat.ie/port-news/port-and-shipping-news/item/20939-tanks-for-guinness-docks-in-dun-laoghaire-harbour

    Used to love gigs like that when working on bulkers, nice and handy, no wash out after etc...although sometimes you could have a pretty fast turnaround!


  • #265
    seanmacc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭seanmacc


    Stena Scotia on the way into Dublin now:

    http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/shipdetails.aspx?mmsi=245896000&header=true

    It is taking the place of the sinking Finnarrow on the Dublin to Holyhead route for the next few weeks.

    Hopefully it will have a bit better luck!


  • #266
    Tabnabs
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,879 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Is the HSS going back to lay-up?


  • #267
    seanmacc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭seanmacc


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    Is the HSS going back to lay-up?

    I believe its going to keep the run going for the moment.

    The Scotia has a very low PC (About 40 I think) and as a result I don't think will be taking cars. Even freight drivers may be an issue for them.

    The HSS also hasn't been in drydock or had any work done since its lay up so the premature reintroduction could cause issues later on


  • #268
    seanmacc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭seanmacc


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    Is the HSS going back to lay-up?

    Just heard what the Stena plan is.

    Apparently the Scotia has a PC of 12 which is an issue for the accompanied trucks. Stena's solution to this is to load the trucks onto the Scotia in Dublin port then bus the drivers to Dun Laoghaire to get on the HSS at the amended 16:00 departure time.

    The Finnarrow is after causing a serious amount of hassle for everyone.


  • #269
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,589 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    seriously ugly ship that.


  • #270
    seanmacc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭seanmacc


    Stena Nordica back on Dublin to Holyhead route: http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/shipdetails.aspx?mmsi=235070241&header=true

    Stena Adventurer on the way to Belfast for drydocking: http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/shipdetails.aspx?mmsi=235667000&header=true


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  • #271
    mp22
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 6,854 Mod ✭✭✭✭mp22


    Arriving in bantry bay this afternoon http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/shipdetails.aspx?mmsi=370068000&header=true


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