TD's get angry about Dail bar being closed early

G Power · 21-02-2013 02:18PM

tayto lover wrote: »

Didn't the late Brian Lenihan Snr tell a story on the Late Late Show years ago about being in a pub when a garda walked in. The garda demanded names but Lenehan made a big laugh at asking the garda if "he wanted a pint or a transfer".
Roars of laughter in the audience. I remember the show well.
Hypocrites.

yes a right bunch of crazies we have in the dail!! and then letting them feed themselves with drink on the job is just lunacy

Defiler Of The Coffin · 21-02-2013 02:18PM

What are the licensing hours for the Dail Bar?

G Power · 21-02-2013 02:31PM

another fine example of what kind of carry on ensues after these crazies are let drink their fill in the dail bar while supposedly working flat out for the citizens that elected them and the rest who have to put up with them!! this is beyond a joke!!

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/drunk-td-threat-to-ruin-garda-career-26681959.html

guttenberg · 21-02-2013 02:35PM

G Power wrote: »

another fine example of what kind of carry on ensues after these crazies are let drink their fill in the dail bar while supposedly working flat out for the citizens that elected them and the rest who have to put up with them!! this is beyond a joke!!

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/drunk-td-threat-to-ruin-garda-career-26681959.html

It's unlikely to make people stop voting for them though!

krudler · 21-02-2013 02:37PM

G Power wrote: »

another fine example of what kind of carry on ensues after these crazies are let drink their fill in the dail bar while supposedly working flat out for the citizens that elected them and the rest who have to put up with them!! this is beyond a joke!!

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/drunk-td-threat-to-ruin-garda-career-26681959.html

That's a few years old, still a joke though, any other job you'd be sacked for incompetence, in this delightful little country you get away with it and nothing is said.

Sponge Bob · 21-02-2013 02:40PM

The really angry looking Government TD (with glasses) who leaps persistently to his feet at the suggestion that the Dáil Bar be closed early is Frank Feighan of Roscommon.

While still a Senator Frank said the following:

"God be with the days when people drank because there were no jobs or money. The scales have been tipped and people are drinking because they are more affluent."

Frank is no longer a senator. He is a TD. Frank is more affluent than he would be as a Senator.

In the self same speech he also said:

http://debates.oireachtas.ie/HEA/2004/01/22/00003.asp#N42

"We should do something to stop the bottle of whiskey from becoming a commodity."

We need people like Frank Feighan in Dáil Éireann more than we need Gerry Adams.

wolfpawnat · 21-02-2013 02:43PM

They should lead by example. No drinking at work and normal bar hours. None of us can sneak out of work for a few in the middle of the day, why should the people making the most important decisions for our country be allowed do it?

CruelCoin · 21-02-2013 02:46PM

rubadub wrote: »

Ming or someone should ask for a Dail headshop to be opened, its a bit unfair that all these poor fellas have to make do with only one recreational drug to abuse, especially one recognized as being so extremely dangerous.

Alcohol 'more harmful than heroin' says Prof David Nutt

Take it you're a pioneer then?

Having a few pints can hardly be called abuse.

Myrddin · 21-02-2013 02:47PM

CruelCoin wrote: »

Having a few pints can hardly be called abuse.

Bring a few tins into your next staff meeting at work, I'm sure your employers wouldn't see any harm in it. Its not as if your making national decisions or anything

krudler · 21-02-2013 02:48PM

CruelCoin wrote: »

Take it you're a pioneer then?

Having a few pints can hardly be called abuse.

a pints and a few pints at work are two completely different things. unless you're a beer taster or something.

CruelCoin · 21-02-2013 02:49PM

EnterNow wrote: »

Bring a few tins into your next staff meeting at work, I'm sure your employers wouldn't see any harm in it. Its not as if your making national decisions or anything

I'm not arguing the setting.

I'm arguing your term of "abuse". Drinking in work is inappropriate, but it's not "abuse".

Myrddin · 21-02-2013 02:52PM

CruelCoin wrote: »

I'm not arguing the setting.

I'm arguing your term of "abuse". Drinking in work is inappropriate, but it's not "abuse".

I'd be of the complete opposite view. Its a complete abuse of position & trust for an elected politician to consumer alcohol while 'at work'. They've plenty of time to drink to their hearts content, some respect from them wouldn't go a miss by not drinking while in the Dail... certainly not before a sitting anyway.

rubadub · 21-02-2013 02:57PM

CruelCoin wrote: »

I'm arguing your term of "abuse". Drinking in work is inappropriate, but it's not "abuse".

Some would say any non-medicinal usage of a drug is abuse -I expect many of the TDs in this bar would consider any usage of "head-shop" type drugs as abuse, no matter what the dosage. I used the term specifically to make people think more about the hypocrisy of it, and what they are fundamentally doing. Many have their head buried in the sand about their own drug use and point the finger at "junkies".

The HSE here say

"Binge drinking is a term used to describe an occasion when we drink too much. It is when we have 6 or more standard drinks. Binge drinking is a form of harmful drinking that is likely to increase our risk of accidents, injuries, violence and poisoning. Having more than 5 standard drinks at a time can seriously increase the harmful effects of drinking."

3 pints is 6 standard drinks, so any more than 2.5pints is seriously harmful according to our own health service. I wonder how many have 3 or more binge drink in the dail. The World Health Organisation say similar.

Take it you're a pioneer then?

I drink like a fish.

CruelCoin · 21-02-2013 03:02PM

EnterNow wrote: »

I'd be of the complete opposite view. Its a complete abuse of position & trust for an elected politician to consumer alcohol while 'at work'. They've plenty of time to drink to their hearts content, some respect from them wouldn't go a miss by not drinking while in the Dail... certainly not before a sitting anyway.

How it was written, was that the substance was being abused, not the position. The tone of the sentence suggested substance. And i responded by saying that a few pints is not substance abuse. Stop twisting what i'm saying.

donegal_road · 21-02-2013 03:10PM

Hijpo wrote: »

It makes me nervous that these drunkards with access to a subsidised bar, during work hours, make decisions that impact a nation and nobody is allowed to stop them.

The drunken decisions that were made during the previous administration will mean Ireland's people will be debt slaves for the rest of our lifetimes

Lenin Skynard · 21-02-2013 03:27PM

donegal_road wrote: »

The drunken decisions that were made during the previous administration will mean Ireland's people will be debt slaves for the rest of our lifetimes

Previous administration? It was only a couple of weeks ago when they were all drinking in there and decided to sign a fifty year loan on behalf of the people.

wolfpawnat · 21-02-2013 03:35PM

Lenin Skynard wrote: »

Previous administration? It was only a couple of weeks ago when they were all drinking in there and decided to sign a fifty year loan on behalf of the people.

I love how everyone blames the last crowd for the continuing fúck ups of this lot. It's been 3 years, the "previous administration" excuses are getting a bit old.

Agent Smith · 21-02-2013 03:35PM

James McNulty wrote: »

How does a "normal Joe" get in? Do you have to be accompanied by an "adult"? i.e. TD??

In theory, anyone can go.

contact a member of staff or a td/Seanad member, they will add your name to the list at the gate

Hijpo · 21-02-2013 03:41PM

Lenin Skynard wrote: »

It was only a couple of weeks ago when they were all drinking in there

That we know of

Myrddin · 21-02-2013 04:29PM

CruelCoin wrote: »

How it was written, was that the substance was being abused, not the position. The tone of the sentence suggested substance. And i responded by saying that a few pints is not substance abuse. Stop twisting what i'm saying.

To consume alcohol while working, is abusing it. Its also abusing your position, & the trust put in you in the assumption your working while not under the influence of any perception altering substances. I'm not twisting anything you said, because tbh I'm not even sure what point your trying to make.

I wonder do all the lads in the House Of Commons all go out & debate after a few scoops? I wonder if half the US Senate was after downing a few before discussing the latest bill? An utter gang of chancers is all we have, & all we ever will have because we're a nation of utter gombeens.

msg11 · 21-02-2013 05:04PM

Why is there even a bar in there in the first place ?

There all away with the fairy's in the Dail, I do wonder sometimes do they think of the public as some sort of video game on the ps3 or xbox 360 ?

'We will have a few pints and play the game 'Country Manager 2007', **** Tom what's this pop up bubble say. 'ECB agress to sign new 50 year deal, do you accept the terms of this deal?' Click Yes Enda, I will get you another pint of Heino'.

donegal_road · 22-02-2013 12:35PM

Lenin Skynard wrote: »

Previous administration? It was only a couple of weeks ago when they were all drinking in there and decided to sign a fifty year loan on behalf of the people.

yep, Im not saying the new shower are any better.

goose2005 · 22-02-2013 07:01PM

EnterNow wrote: »

I wonder do all the lads in the House Of Commons all go out & debate after a few scoops? I wonder if half the US Senate was after downing a few before discussing the latest bill? An utter gang of chancers is all we have, & all we ever will have because we're a nation of utter gombeens.

Yes, Eric Joyce (a Scottish MP) got drunk in the Commons bar and assaulted three people last year. I'd say the Lords (and Ladies) are drunk as, well, lords a lot of the time. And in movies/TV the US Senators always have scotch hidden away in the office.

ilovesleep · 22-02-2013 10:51PM

Fcuking hypocrital ****. They have no problem inflicting early off licenses closures upon the rest of us and indeed pub closing times as if we're all raging drunks just some people don't know how to drink responsibly and handle their drink.

TD's get angry about Dail bar being closed early

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