TD's get angry about Dail bar being closed early

guttenberg · 21-02-2013 11:39AM #1

From the video bio:

Fine Gael, Labour and Fianna Fáil TDs react angrily to a proposal by Sinn Féin leader Gerry Adams to close the Dáil bar as the House is sitting after midnight. The suggestion came after a number of TDs and Senators were clearly intoxicated as the IBRC Bill was rushed through last month.

Yes SF uploaded the video, but surely the TD's should be barred from drinking on the job? was the outrage just because it was SF who asked for it to be closed, or are we really run by a bunch of alcoholics?

buck65 · 21-02-2013 11:46AM

Maybe they all had a cold?

lazygal · 21-02-2013 11:46AM

I can't muster enough outrage to care about this either way.

funk-you · 21-02-2013 11:51AM

I don't care if they have a bar but it should have the same opening hours as every other bar in the country. Also like the rest of us, If you're drinking on the job you should be sacked. I don't mind them making the rules so much but at least follow the ones the rest of us do.

-Funk

GRMA · 21-02-2013 11:51AM

It was clear at the time that many of them were loaded. I don't think people should be drinking on the job, or even before they get to work.

A fair compromise would be to ban TDs from being served (everyone who goes into Leinster house has to get an id tag so its simple enough to see who is who) before or during Dáil sittings and only allow them to drink afterwards.

folan · 21-02-2013 11:52AM

does it really matter if the people who make our decisions do so drunk or sober? their record is hardly inspiring anyway.

Thank god that its the same rules for them as it is for us.

Boombastic · 21-02-2013 11:52AM

Isn't their 2 bars the 'public' one and the 'members' one?

GRMA · 21-02-2013 11:53AM

Boombastic wrote: »

Isn't their 2 bars the 'public' one and the 'members' one?

No, they're connected and no real difference between them.

suicide_circus · 21-02-2013 11:55AM

They dont need a bar, few naggins, be grand!

lazygal · 21-02-2013 11:56AM

GRMA wrote: »

No, they're connected and no real difference between them.

They are not connected, they are two separate areas and you can't move between them. They have the same staff working them but you can't walk from one to the other without leaving and entering the main door.

Boombastic · 21-02-2013 11:57AM

GRMA wrote: »

No, they're connected and no real difference between them.

Oh, OK..I thought one was for TD's only.

Re:the licence

A special exemption means that if the Dail or Seanad sits later than 11.30pm, a "one hour rule" applies, whereby the bar can remain open for up to an hour after the sitting ends.

TeddyTedson · 21-02-2013 11:58AM

I don't see why they need a bar to be honest. Let them spend there money in local pubs and spread their wealth around a bit.

Hijpo · 21-02-2013 11:59AM

Boombastic wrote: »

Isn't their 2 bars the 'public' one and the 'members' one?

It makes me nervous that these drunkards with access to a subsidised bar, during work hours, make decisions that impact a nation and nobody is allowed to stop them.

21-02-2013 11:59AM

Boombastic wrote: »

A special exemption means that if the Dail or Seanad sits later than 11.30pm, a "one hour rule" applies, whereby the bar can remain open for up to an hour after the sitting ends.

Any hour rules for people on a nightshift? No?
Disgrace tbh

Run the country? lol no we just get drunk

Solair · 21-02-2013 11:59AM

It's a legislature, not a social club!

They really need to cop on and start doing their jobs i.e. legislating instead of faffing around in bars paid for by the tax payer.

They're behaving like French aristocrats .. and that didn't really work out well !

This kind of stuff is just infuriating for the general public as it creates a sense that they're living it up on our tab.

They can drink bad quality, fluoridated tap water like the rest of us!

Boombastic · 21-02-2013 12:00PM

Hijpo wrote: »

It makes me nervous that these drunkards with access to a subsidised bar, during work hours, make decisions that impact a nation and nobody is allowed to stop them.

Me too, sure no wonder the decisions they make have the country Fcuked-this goes for all present and past governments.

James McNulty · 21-02-2013 12:00PM

How does a "normal Joe" get in? Do you have to be accompanied by an "adult"? i.e. TD??

clairefontaine · 21-02-2013 12:02PM

This isn't doing much to help the national stereotype.

GRMA · 21-02-2013 12:03PM

James McNulty wrote: »

How does a "normal Joe" get in? Do you have to be accompanied by an "adult"? i.e. TD??

Yeah you need a TD to sign you in (or a senator, or if you are a party press worker you can get in too) he/she doesnt need to hold your hand though once you're in

Been there a bunch of times it's fairly sh!te tbh most locals have only one or two gob****es!!

dan1895 · 21-02-2013 12:03PM

Boombastic wrote: »

Oh, OK..I thought one was for TD's only.

Re:the licence

A special exemption means that if the Dail or Seanad sits later than 11.30pm, a "one hour rule" applies, whereby the bar can remain open for up to an hour after the sitting ends.

If I work late i don't get an hour extra, usually I can't even go to an off licence to get some cans. Hypocrites!

Boombastic · 21-02-2013 12:03PM

And they can't be stopped and breathilised coming to or from the Dail

syklops · 21-02-2013 12:08PM

Im in 2 minds about this. Usually I am immune to the usual outrage at politicians, and I appreciate they do a very hard job with long hours. On the other hand, if I finish work after midnight, I've missed the off license and chances of last orders are slim as I have to get into town. So why is there one rule for us and one rule for them?

krudler · 21-02-2013 12:10PM

here's an idea, remove bar privileges for the TD's who have low attendance rates in there, watch how fast sh1t gets done then .

or better yet, remove the bar altogether, you're there to govern the country not get pissed on our time you feckless ****, do your fcuking jobs and stop using taxpayer time to get loaded.

syklops · 21-02-2013 12:13PM

krudler wrote: »

here's an idea, remove bar privileges for the TD's who have low attendance rates in there, watch how fast sh1t gets done then .

or better yet, remove the bar altogether, you're there to govern the country not get pissed on our time you feckless ****, do your fcuking jobs and stop using taxpayer time to get loaded.

Or how about bring licensing laws into the 21st century and let bars close when they want to close.

krudler · 21-02-2013 12:15PM

syklops wrote: »

Im in 2 minds about this. Usually I am immune to the usual outrage at politicians, and I appreciate they do a very hard job with long hours. On the other hand, if I finish work after midnight, I've missed the off license and chances of last orders are slim as I have to get into town. So why is there one rule for us and one rule for them?

so? as do a lot of people, doesn't mean we can legally get drunk on the job.

AnonoBoy · 21-02-2013 12:16PM

F*ck them. I've no sympathy for them, let them operate under the same hours as the rest of us have to.

When I finish work at 10 I can't buy one bottle of beer on the way home because they've decided I"m not responsible enough to be allowed buy beer to bring home at that time of night.

clairefontaine · 21-02-2013 12:18PM

Why do they get to drink on the job?

KyussBishop · 21-02-2013 12:19PM

Drinking pending a critically important vote, that will have a long-term effect on our country and our governments finances? Nice.

Why is there a Dail bar in the first place, and how is it funded? (it's not publicly funded, surely? if so, get rid of the fúcking thing)

syklops · 21-02-2013 12:20PM

krudler wrote: »

so? as do a lot of people, doesn't mean we can legally get drunk on the job.

Did you even read the rest of my post?

21-02-2013 12:24PM

Boombastic wrote: »

And they can't be stopped and breathilised coming to or from the Dail

really? is that true? jesus h christ .
What kind of a country are we at all??

krudler · 21-02-2013 12:30PM

wonder how many other countries have the same, I know the parliment in the UK has one, doubt America has, can't imagine Obama having a few jars before laying down some foreign policy.

TD's get angry about Dail bar being closed early

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