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Wii U Pre-Launch Discussion

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  • #2132
    wampyrus77
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭wampyrus77


    Snowc wrote: »
    unfortunately this is lies :mad::mad: i leave me console on all night buy accident and it be still on in the morning,why spread lies like this?

    its true not lies

    Wii U: 7 Things You Must Know

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvPbnb2e31g


  • #2133
    wampyrus77
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭wampyrus77


    GTR63 wrote: »
    Kinda stupid tbh with Sony doing a motion controller, a kart game and a mascot themed brawler. Interested in their reveal but not in fanboy wars.

    that ps3 motion controller was already thought by nintendo 1st when wii came out with their wii remote motion plus 2009

    • Japan June 8, 2009[1]
    • EU June 12, 2009[2]


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_MotionPlus

    sony ps3 motion controller

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Move

    availability


  • #2134
    Deano7788
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Deano7788


    That's what he was saying. Nintendo did all those things first and Sony copied them.


  • #2135
    Snowc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 613 ✭✭✭Snowc


    :pac:
    wampyrus77 wrote: »
    its true not lies

    Wii U: 7 Things You Must Know

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvPbnb2e31g


    No metion of it dat video ,u most get a kick of spreading rumors:mad:


  • #2136
    Deano7788
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Deano7788


    Umm, it's actually the very first point made in that video and it is actually true. It does shut off after 60 minutes of inactivity unless you change the settings.


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  • #2137
    Dozen Wicked Words
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    Deano7788 wrote: »
    Umm, it's actually the very first point made in that video and it is actually true. It does shut off after 60 minutes of inactivity unless you change the settings.

    You appear to be intervening in a war of giant intellects way above us mortals. Step carefully!


  • #2138
    Deano7788
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Deano7788


    dooferoaks wrote: »
    You appear to be intervening in a war of giant intellects way above us mortals. Step carefully!

    I was wondering whether would I regret it and should I just get some popcorn instead but went against my better judgement. Hopefully I won't become a casualty of the war.


  • #2139
    DARK-KNIGHT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,281 ✭✭✭✭DARK-KNIGHT


    Seriously this used to be a great forum but the amount of pointless and stupid posting here is turning me off using the forum the choice posting of one user here pointing out facts that are completely irrelevant is absolutely driving me mad and then others bullying him???

    FFS I'm 30 years of age with kids mortgage etc I don't need this crap. Ill be pming a mod re this too btw I think nintendo forum is now an absolute circus

    Sorry for the rant lads most of us in general post great stuff but thing that are happening here are pushing me away from enjoying my ninty forum now..


  • #2140
    Dozen Wicked Words
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »
    Seriously this used to be a great forum but the amount of pointless and stupid posting here is turning me off using the forum the choice posting of one user here pointing out facts that are completely irrelevant is absolutely driving me mad and then others bullying him???

    FFS I'm 30 years of age with kids mortgage etc I don't need this crap. Ill be pming a mod re this too btw I think nintendo forum is now an absolute circus

    Sorry for the rant lads most of us in general post great stuff but thing that are happening here are pushing me away from enjoying my ninty forum now..

    Know what you mean, but would the ignore list not do the job?


  • #2141
    DARK-KNIGHT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,281 ✭✭✭✭DARK-KNIGHT


    dooferoaks wrote: »
    Know what you mean, but would the ignore list not do the job?

    I know that function can be used but if someone quotes what the ignored party say I have to read it either way. I dunno I'm gonna suggest something to mods and I think it needs serious attention 3 posts within a min or two on the same thing is so stupid it's not funny i honestly believe someone in particular wants to be most contributing poster here and is posting any crap to stay there. Don't get me wrong I more than any of us have my moments on boards but WTF is going on in here recently?? Other day one of regular genuine lads gave us ALL THE INFO from ninty conference in each thread so nobody missed it and few hours later diff guy comes in spouting exact same dribble on each thread again now why would he do that? Looks like he is attempting to annoy other users.. My email is full of useless crap via ninty at moment. Jesus I really am ranting sorry.. I just care about this forum alot. Hate seeing it going a crappy way


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  • #2142
    Myrddin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »
    but WTF is going on in here recently??

    Nothing thats against the rules, & certainly nothing that warrants personal attacks on a user thats simply providing information. Sure it might be old news, or repeat news sometimes...but I don't see the harm in that its at least contributing to the forum...which is more than can be said for the last few posts in this thread.


  • #2143
    CiDeRmAn
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,797 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Not liking the personal abuse here at all, not to mention hasn't this thread run it's course, being one where the OP was discussing the Wii U, Pre Launch?

    Just because you don't like the manner of someone =s post here does not give you licence to contravene the rules and abuse them, or make derogatory comments, just ignore the posts, move on to the next one.
    Turn off the notifications of posts on the thread and check in periodically yourself.

    Once again, reckon it is the personal nature of the commentary rather than the posts by the alleged "offender" that have ruined the thread.

    And, since when did it become a crime to be enthusiastic in your ownership and evangelisation of the Wii U?
    If there were a few more like that the machine might be selling a lot better than it is.

    Some folk seem to think that they have always gotten every fact right, that every post they have ever made was on point and that, somehow, they popped into the online world, from the get-go, knowing it all and having being perfect.
    Here's news, you didn't, no one did, we all learned and none of us learned from others being @ssholes.

    Just my opinion you understand.


  • #2144
    CastorTroy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,184 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    With Bungie announcing their game yesterday with no mention of Wii U, I'm beginning to wonder if it will go the way of the Wii with Third Party devs. I mean look at the rest of the year from what we know and the number or third party games coming out for it. Then we'll have the next XBox and Playstation which there are claims are more powerful than Wii U. This again will cause devs to concentrate on them rather than Wii U.

    I'm a Nintendo fan but they'll need to make some big announcements of third party games soon to attract more people to the console. Especially with 1 of their big third party games being delayed so it can be released the same time as 360 and PS3 versions. While many other games are coming to those systems but not Wii U.

    Looking at this list
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056875408
    apart from the Wii U exclusives there isn't much coming out


  • #2145
    Myrddin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    With Bungie announcing their game yesterday with no mention of Wii U, I'm beginning to wonder if it will go the way of the Wii with Third Party devs. I mean look at the rest of the year from what we know and the number or third party games coming out for it. Then we'll have the next XBox and Playstation which there are claims are more powerful than Wii U. This again will cause devs to concentrate on them rather than Wii U.

    I'm a Nintendo fan but they'll need to make some big announcements of third party games soon to attract more people to the console. Especially with 1 of their big third party games being delayed so it can be released the same time as 360 and PS3 versions. While many other games are coming to those systems but not Wii U.

    Looking at this list
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056875408
    apart from the Wii U exclusives there isn't much coming out

    I know it seems longer, but you have to remember the Wii U has only been out in most territories for two & a half months...its gonna take a good bit more time before we see it hit its stride.

    Also the new consoles from MS & Sony will be more powerful than the Wii U, make no mistake. The Wii U really only compares power wise to the PS3 & 360...but its not competing directly against anyone. Nintendo have their own little bubble, & they've done brilliantly in the past in that same bubble...& they will again with the Wii U...just be patient :)


  • #2146
    wampyrus77
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭wampyrus77


    EnterNow wrote: »
    I know it seems longer, but you have to remember the Wii U has only been out in most territories for two & a half months...its gonna take a good bit more time before we see it hit its stride.

    Also the new consoles from MS & Sony will be more powerful than the Wii U, make no mistake. The Wii U really only compares power wise to the PS3 & 360...but its not competing directly against anyone. Nintendo have their own little bubble, & they've done brilliantly in the past in that same bubble...& they will again with the Wii U...just be patient :)

    and cost more then wii u when they launch,


  • #2147
    Deano7788
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Deano7788


    CastorTroy wrote: »
    With Bungie announcing their game yesterday with no mention of Wii U, I'm beginning to wonder if it will go the way of the Wii with Third Party devs. I mean look at the rest of the year from what we know and the number or third party games coming out for it. Then we'll have the next XBox and Playstation which there are claims are more powerful than Wii U. This again will cause devs to concentrate on them rather than Wii U.

    I'm a Nintendo fan but they'll need to make some big announcements of third party games soon to attract more people to the console. Especially with 1 of their big third party games being delayed so it can be released the same time as 360 and PS3 versions. While many other games are coming to those systems but not Wii U.

    Looking at this list
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056875408
    apart from the Wii U exclusives there isn't much coming out

    To be honest I'm not really expecting the same 3rd party games, simply because of the power difference. What I am hoping for, and think we'll get, are equivalents of the likes of Little King's Story or Zack and Wiki. The new consoles will be more expensive to develop for so studios that don't have the budgets might choose Wii U instead, like what happened with the Wii, especially in the few years after its release.


  • #2148
    Myrddin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    wampyrus77 wrote: »
    and cost more then wii u when they launch,

    Of that we can be sure :) The Wii U doesn't really go toe to toe with the next gen though, it offers something different - something exclusive, which has been Nintendo's way for a long time & its worked very well for them


  • #2149
    Deano7788
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Deano7788


    wampyrus77 wrote: »
    and cost more then wii u when they launch,

    That's far from guaranteed, and I definitely don't think there will be as big a price difference as there was with the Wii.


  • #2150
    CiDeRmAn
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,797 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    I reckon it'd be a mistake to bet against Nintendo on having success, they have never had a flop.
    At home their machines have certainly done better than any MS machine, so expect plenty of Japanese support at the very least.
    If folk are banking on one company to tank it perhaps one would be better looking to Sony, seeing as the Vita and PSP hardly lit up the sky, not to mention the PS3 didn't dominate in anyway the current gen, only kept neck and neck with the 360, overall, despite the 360 being incredibly weak in the home islands.
    So, next gen, has it really created a buzz yet?
    My money is on MS making a bigger launch day splash, and you know those launch games must be nearing the end of development given the consoles are moth going to launch by the Autumn, so, more Ubisoft Ravig Rabbids games anyone?


  • #2151
    richymcdermott
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,447 ✭✭✭richymcdermott


    Psp done alot better than people expected selling 70 millions units , cant say the same thing about the vita :(.

    I believe sony is going to have the hardest time this generation since there mess up was xbox gain.

    As much as i loved the ps1 and ps2 the playstation 3 was a total mess.

    Sony removing features , the network hack **** up , taken 3-4 years for developers to understanding the ps3 hardware. Sending there games out to die with little to know advertisement.

    I believe ps4 could be their last console if they have anymore screw ups.

    With Microsoft i believe they will further move away from being a gaming system to being a cable box. Not that i am against systems with netflix and streaming stuff but i believe a gaming console should make games a priority and stop adding all this useless facebook , twitter ****e.

    Microsoft could continue its dominace in the hardcore market and i much prefer nintendo to continue on its own way than trying to cater to all this shooter market that has taken over about 90% of ps3 & 360 library.

    Concern about wii u not getting the upcoming ps3&360 games i believe is due to these games being in development for 2-3 years and a straight port to wii u would make terrible versions for wii u as shown at times in wii u launch.

    Not worried about wii u now but i am pumped for its future :D


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  • #2152
    Mr.Saturn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,030 ✭✭✭Mr.Saturn


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    I reckon it'd be a mistake to bet against Nintendo on having success, they have never had a flop.

    In fairness, it's also got something to do the fact they're willing to halt production on a console if there's even a hint of it taking noteworthy losses. This is why the Gamecube, Nintendo's lowest-selling home console, still made a tidy profit when its lifespan came to an end. Though they've just come off their first annual loss ever, so I dunno if that philosophy is still adhered to that stringently.

    I suppose there's, or was, something to admire in that, considering the last two gens previous to this consisted of multinational juggernauts muscling in on the gaming market as part of some already vast portfolio of divisions, happily shedding losses of billions in the pursuit, but there's Ninty, always hanging, capable of soaring success or quietly chugging along, and turning a considerable profit regardless.

    Granted, no one could really argue Nintendo didn't deserve a bit of a slapping around, after the gash they caused with the draconian 3rd-party business in the 8/16-bit eras, and the business they pulled on Sony with the SNES CD add-on, which became their undoing. Boom! Playstation redefines marketing a home console, and expands the potential market to double, and then with the PS2, triple.


  • #2153
    CastorTroy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,184 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Oh I'm not counting Nintendo out.
    One thing I am hoping for is that 3rd parties do release games and get more sales of their games when (for the moment) the Wii U isn't hacked. I'm sure that was one reason why third parties didn't support Nintendo as much as they could've.


  • #2154
    CiDeRmAn
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    Oh, I will correct myself and say that the Gameboy Micro wasn't the success it should have been, as the DS stole it's thunder, and the Virtual Boy was a complete disaster at retail.
    That said, I have both and they're great!
    The Wii hit the big time with the only game many playing being the one it came with, Wii Sports.
    The Wii U has a nice minigame collection, showcasing the various gameplay options available, but it isn't as compelling or simple as the Wii pack in title.
    If they can get a WiiU Sports game in there, and market it right, then they are laughing.
    It might be that they will have to shift focus away from the Gamepad controller and onto the fact that it's a HD Wii, more people who owned the Wii might be attracted to the chance to play a new sports compilation with a Wii-mote, rather than have to face learning to interact with a tablet, which is how the new controller might be interpreted.

    The Wii succeeded, partially, because the Wii-mote is accessible to anyone who can use a TV remote, and it means there is a lower entry bar for people, more folk are comfortable with the Wii-mote, they aren't intimidated, fearful of looking foolish, wondering what button does what.
    The Wii U controller is covered in buttons, it's not obvious if you point it at something or not, the looking at the tv then at the screen on the gamepad is counter-intuitive and potentially confusing. It's great in Mario chase, with a bunch of friends around, but to someone who likes Bowling on the Wii it's a bit overwhelming.

    The market that made the Wii a success don't care about Dishonoured coming to it, or Half Life 3, no they want simple, fun games that they can engage with without having to have had previous gaming experience.

    The rest of us will jump in with both feet, once we see Mario Galaxy 3 or Mario Kart 8 pop onto it.


  • #2155
    richymcdermott
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,447 ✭✭✭richymcdermott


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Oh, I will correct myself and say that the Gameboy Micro wasn't the success it should have been, as the DS stole it's thunder, and the Virtual Boy was a complete disaster at retail.
    That said, I have both and they're great!
    The Wii hit the big time with the only game many playing being the one it came with, Wii Sports.
    The Wii U has a nice minigame collection, showcasing the various gameplay options available, but it isn't as compelling or simple as the Wii pack in title.
    If they can get a WiiU Sports game in there, and market it right, then they are laughing.
    It might be that they will have to shift focus away from the Gamepad controller and onto the fact that it's a HD Wii, more people who owned the Wii might be attracted to the chance to play a new sports compilation with a Wii-mote, rather than have to face learning to interact with a tablet, which is how the new controller might be interpreted.

    The Wii succeeded, partially, because the Wii-mote is accessible to anyone who can use a TV remote, and it means there is a lower entry bar for people, more folk are comfortable with the Wii-mote, they aren't intimidated, fearful of looking foolish, wondering what button does what.
    The Wii U controller is covered in buttons, it's not obvious if you point it at something or not, the looking at the tv then at the screen on the gamepad is counter-intuitive and potentially confusing. It's great in Mario chase, with a bunch of friends around, but to someone who likes Bowling on the Wii it's a bit overwhelming.

    The market that made the Wii a success don't care about Dishonoured coming to it, or Half Life 3, no they want simple, fun games that they can engage with without having to have had previous gaming experience.

    The rest of us will jump in with both feet, once we see Mario Galaxy 3 or Mario Kart 8 pop onto it.

    I go as far to say when people see zelda or metroid in hd we be seeing loads of old nintendo fans pick up a system


  • #2156
    Kinski
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭Kinski


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    The market that made the Wii a success don't care about Dishonoured coming to it, or Half Life 3, no they want simple, fun games that they can engage with without having to have had previous gaming experience.

    Which they now get for free in the form of Angry Birds and Temple Run. These people will not be buying the Wii U in significant numbers, especially when it lacks the ubiquitous advertising the Wii enjoyed.

    A lot of people seem to be saying that the Wii U will pick up once the "big-hitters" like Mario, Metroid, and Zelda arrive, but the biggest hitter of the lot, New Super Mario Bros (reportedly sold around 26m copies on Wii, compared with 10m for Mario Galaxy 1) was a launch title, and the console is struggling, with lacklustre third-party support and very few big first-party titles lined-up for this year.

    Early days, but this could well be a disaster of a format if Nintendo don't pull their finger out.


  • #2157
    Myrddin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Kinski wrote: »
    Early days, but this could well be a disaster of a format if Nintendo don't pull their finger out.

    Do you not think thats a bit premature, the format is only about ten weeks old in most territories...


  • #2158
    Deano7788
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Deano7788


    Weren't people saying the same thing about the 3DS as well? Look where it is now. I have full belief Nintendo will get this to work.


  • #2159
    richymcdermott
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,447 ✭✭✭richymcdermott


    With a console of 3 million users

    2 million have bought NSMB U

    Wii was successful because of two games

    1. Wii sports
    2. The legend of zelda twilight princess

    Nintendo has announced a wind waker hd , mario kart and i think a 3d mario game due for this year and those 3 alone will sell the system.

    Then theres wii fit u which take at what you will is a blast to play with family and i am sure will sell loads.

    Thing is ps4 and ms are gonna go through a similar launch as wii u . Only difference is by the time those come out , nintendo owners will be playing games right , left and center


  • #2160
    CastorTroy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,184 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I've said it before but it'll be interesting to see if the next XBox and PS get as much criticism and scrutiny as the Wii U.


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  • #2161
    Kinski
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭Kinski


    EnterNow wrote: »
    Do you not think thats a bit premature, the format is only about ten weeks old in most territories...

    Not when US sales since Xmas put it neck-and-neck with the PS Vita, and software sales allegedly amount to a whopping $15m (which is f*** all, in case anyone is in any doubt.)

    They don't seem to have learned from the mistakes of the 3DS, and that was in the handheld market, where they'd been utterly dominant for 20 years anyhow, and had wriggle-room to cut price, which I don't think they do with the U.

    They need to get games out there this year, and they need a proper marketing campaign to let people know that the Wii U is a thing. They should basically "relaunch" it marketing-wise, like they did with the "This is not DS, this is 3DS" ads.


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