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Is it ever right to cheer a death?

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  • #122
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    mango salsa wrote: »
    No

    A death is a death and is never something I will cheer on

    Not even twink?


  • #123
    gallag
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,352 ✭✭✭gallag


    So ill ask again, why do yous hate Thatcher? Was it standing up to the militant trade unionists? Do yous not wish the government now would stand up to the unions a bit?


  • #124
    J_E
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭J_E


    Everyone out there has someone that cares for them. They're only human past it all. Cheering on the death of someone is kind of barbaric and primitive in itself.


  • #125
    MaxSteele
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭MaxSteele


    The way I see it is, If the world is better off or safer with certain people dead, well then there's no difference in showing no sympthy/expressing relief and cheering it on.

    Can't wait until Thatcher kicks the bucket. The drinking sessions which follow will be immense.


  • #126
    gallag
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,352 ✭✭✭gallag


    MaxSteele wrote: »

    Can't wait until Thatcher kicks the bucket. The drinking sessions which follow will be immense.
    Why? Really having a hard time understanding why so many irish people have so much hate for a British pm?


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  • #127
    tfitzgerald
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭tfitzgerald


    Rabidlamb wrote: »
    I bet you're christian. . . . & possibly vegetarian too, I don't know which is worse.
    Well forgive me either way.

    Off topic I know. But I love this post. I'm going to use it I. The next argument I get into :)


  • #128
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    gallag wrote: »
    Why? Really having a hard time understanding why so many irish people have so much hate for a British pm?

    It's to do with Northern Ireland. For instance many here think that she should have intervened during the hunger strikes.


  • #129
    Lingua Franca
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭Lingua Franca


    gallag wrote: »
    Why? Really having a hard time understanding why so many irish people have so much hate for a British pm?

    Because she went on a killing spree in Northern Ireland in 1968.

    Look, we know you're down with the BNP etc but you're being disingenous here. Do you pretend to be this surprised when people express their disdain for George W Bush/Berlusconi/Putin as well?


  • #130
    MaxSteele
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭MaxSteele


    gallag wrote: »
    Why? Really having a hard time understanding why so many irish people have so much hate for a British pm?

    She was a cold, stubborn, elitist, tight fisted geebag.

    Plus the celebratory sessions for her send off to hell will be mighty craic.


  • #131
    gallag
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,352 ✭✭✭gallag


    So she did not give into militant trade unions or prisoners who wanted all the benefits of fighting a declared war respecting the Geneva convention while also planting bombs in shoping centers? What other world leader would have done things differently? Seriously, think of your favourite world leader of all time and put them through the decisions MT had to make, I honestly think if it was a man leading at the time and made the same choices he would not be as hated.


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  • #132
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    gallag wrote: »
    So she did not give into militant trade unions or prisoners who wanted all the benefits of fighting a declared war respecting the Geneva convention while also planting bombs in shoping centers? What other world leader would have done things differently? Seriously, think of your favourite world leader of all time and put them through the decisions MT had to make, I honestly think if it was a man leading at the time and made the same choices he would not be as hated.

    I know it was an awful time for both sides but she needed to use more tact with the IRA, her cold stance only prolonged the troubles and created even more hostility in the nationalist community towards Britain. The issue needed to be seen to, we can't pretend that there wasn't civil rights issues present in NI at the time.

    Proper dialogue and balanced debate could have saved lives.


  • #133
    Sunnyisland
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Dont think I would cheer but I certainaly have no sorrow that this person was murdered.


  • #134
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    starlings wrote: »
    Did you cheer Jimmy Saville's death when you heard the accusations against him? Or Milosevic's in custody? Surely the satisfaction should be in seeing them being held to account, as this child-murderer was, rather than their deaths?

    Yeah, Ian Huntley was "brought to account" and has a cushy life in prison, where's the justice there?

    Don't think the world would be any worse off if someone took a shank to him someday.


  • #135
    starlings
    Closed Accounts Posts: 683 ✭✭✭starlings


    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    Yeah, Ian Huntley was "brought to account" and has a cushy life in prison, where's the justice there?

    Don't think the world would be any worse off if someone took a shank to him someday.

    I don't think prison life is cushy.
    And yes, I think the world would be worse off if someone took a shank to him, because running prisons as death rows by proxy would undermine our principles of justice.


  • #136
    Rhyme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,561 ✭✭✭Rhyme


    mango salsa wrote: »
    No

    A death is a death and is never something I will cheer on

    Agreed.

    Death is never really deserved, but it can be earned.


  • #137
    token101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭token101


    Sauve wrote: »
    Yes it was a bit of a circus, but come on- the girl didn't deserve that :confused:

    It was a circus because others made it one though. If there's anyone in that story who's death deserves cheering it's the likes of Carol Malone and the tabloid press journalists.


  • #138
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    starlings wrote: »
    I don't think prison life is cushy.
    And yes, I think the world would be worse off if someone took a shank to him, because running prisons as death rows by proxy would undermine our principles of justice.

    He has nearly everything he would have in the outside world in his cell, TV radio etc, do you think he deserves these things?


  • #139
    starlings
    Closed Accounts Posts: 683 ✭✭✭starlings


    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    He has nearly everything he would have in the outside world in his cell, TV radio etc, do you think he deserves these things?

    He does not have the outside world itself. Everything in his cell is a reminder of that. I couldn't handle that. Maybe Huntley can, but to think of ways to hurt him would just be vengeance, not justice.


  • #140
    minidazzler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    starlings wrote: »
    I don't think prison life is cushy.
    And yes, I think the world would be worse off if someone took a shank to him, because running prisons as death rows by proxy would undermine our principles of justice.

    Free room and board, exercise, free clothes and all the books you could want.... TV's and such in some prisons. Cushy enough.


  • #141
    Rasheed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Rasheed


    Sure all you're going to hurt when you cheer that someone is dead, is their family? The dead person won't give a shiite, they're gone.

    As another poster said, I don't think I could 'cheer' anyone's death other than a person that abused me, hurt me or my family. Even then, cheer is a wrong word.


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  • #142
    Madam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,501 ✭✭✭Madam


    I don't think I'd cheer anyone's death but I'll be quietly smug about Mrs T's death. I don't think she will be particularly mourned much in Scotland anyway and tbh 'some' people will be out cheering I'm sure!


  • #143
    MickFleetwood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭MickFleetwood


    Some people are too liberal in here. **** that child murdering **** of course he deserved to die.


  • #144
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    I didn't use the word cheer but I do think prison life is too cushy for the likes of child killers, 23 hour lockdown, no TV etc, let them really suffer for their crimes.


  • #145
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,321 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I didnt exactly jump up and down with happiness, but when I heard I was delighted, just wish the lads who did it, didnt have more time to give him a little taste of his own medicine
    Baby killers deserve what they get.

    May he rot in hell if there was such a place. Scumbag.


  • #146
    MickFleetwood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭MickFleetwood


    There are literally multitudes of people out there that if they died I'd feel the world a superior place to live in.

    Jon Venables and Robert Thompson, for example.


  • #147
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,321 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    MickFleetwood wrote: »
    There are literally multitudes of people out there that if they died I'd feel the world a superior place to live in.

    Jon Venables and Robert Thompson, for example.

    mmm, them not so much, I suppose just because they were children when they commited their heinous crime.


  • #148
    Riddle101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,669 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    Don't know if I would cheer, but I'd feel no sympathy, and would be quite content with their death.


  • #149
    MickFleetwood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭MickFleetwood


    Jake1 wrote: »
    mmm, them not so much, I suppose just because they were children when they commited their heinous crime.

    I hope they both die extremely violent and excruciatingly painful deaths. Are you going to defend two monsters who planned out the torture and death of a ****ing two year old?

    The world has gone mad.

    Also, I do believe one of them has been locked away again due to possession of child pornography. So he's still a disgusting, worthless piece of ****.


  • #150
    [Deleted User]
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    MickFleetwood wrote: »
    I hope they both die extremely violent and excruciatingly painful deaths. Are you going to defend two monsters who planned out the torture and death of a ****ing two year old?

    The world has gone mad.

    Nah, Im certainly NOT defending them, I just think that they were children when they commited the crime. Bit different from a grown man doing what they did. I hate what the did, ****ing hate it.

    The world hasnt gone mad, its always been mad


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  • #151
    MickFleetwood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭MickFleetwood


    Jake1 wrote: »
    Nah, Im certainly NOT defending them, I just think that they were children when they commited the crime. Bit different from a grown man doing what they did. I hate what the did, ****ing hate it.

    The world hasnt gone mad, its always been mad

    True.


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