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homeless and destitude

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭sock puppet


    thebaz wrote: »
    I dislike Insurance companies but
    the more they pay out , the more passed on to the rest of us for policies

    And? If an insurer fails to accurately price risk at the outset that's hardly the consumer's fault as long as they haven't been fraudulent.
    and I speak from experience , I have never had an insurance company pay me a cent , and had insurance all my life , they weasled out with small print stuff ... what goes around comes around

    To be fair they tried to get out of paying for this claim too!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,162 ✭✭✭Augmerson


    thebaz wrote: »
    but still , staying in the 4 Seasons , and 5,000 a month rent just not enough ...

    my heart bleeds , is it any wonder the country is so ****ed up , in times of hardship this story makes me really angry , not forgetting the pet parrot

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/homeless-widow-offered-800000-and-apartment-in-four-seasons-29070221.html

    Indo is a rag.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,859 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    And? If an insurer fails to accurately price risk at the outset that's hardly the consumer's fault as long as they haven't been fraudulent.

    Pay whatever is covered , absolutly , but someone is telling porkies below from IT, perhaps it is Axa ?

    "Axa disputed claims Ms Glennon Cully was virtually “destitute” and alleged she had another house in Brittas Bay and her children had a €1.4 million trust fund.

    The Commercial Court was told the family is likely today to accept a €645,000 offer, on top of earlier payments totalling €159,000. "


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,859 ✭✭✭✭thebaz





    To be fair they tried to get out of paying for this claim too!

    So you think family were correct in staying in the 4 seasons ?

    my claim was so small , and yet they paid me nothing , on a small technicality - this type of gravy train case , will makes it more difficult and expensive for others to claim


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭Ruudi_Mentari


    Knew this guy, Desi..

    Desi the destitute. Started his own institute n called it Destination: Destitution. Needless to say there were many drop-outs n before you knew it desi dropped out too.. there was nobody left to pick up the pieces and desi's venture collapsed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭sock puppet


    thebaz wrote: »
    Pay whatever is covered , absolutly , but someone is telling porkies below from IT, perhaps it is Axa ?

    "Axa disputed claims Ms Glennon Cully was virtually “destitute” and alleged she had another house in Brittas Bay and her children had a €1.4 million trust fund.

    The Commercial Court was told the family is likely today to accept a €645,000 offer, on top of earlier payments totalling €159,000. "

    She's obviosuly not destitute, the money she received was for repairs and accomadation though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Knew this guy, Desi..

    Desi the destitute. Started his own institute n called it Destination: Destitution. Needless to say there were many drop-outs n before you knew it desi dropped out too.. there was nobody left to pick up the pieces and desi's venture collapsed.

    I can't read that without trying to make it rhyme :confused:.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭StinkyMunkey


    Am I the only one that thinks the judge was her neighbour or associated with her family in some way. They prolly all gonna meet for brunch and have a good laugh about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,459 ✭✭✭Chucken


    I stopped reading when I seen she named her children Zane and Zara. What a geebag. I hope she gets nothing because of that.

    Why?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭AngryHippie


    Wouldn't it be Trrraaagic if the place got burned to the ground just after she had it fixed.
    And it was due to one of her own electric appliances so she got squat for it.

    Beyatch, the Karma train is gonna get you or your kids. Look out


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 403 ✭✭Humans eh!


    Wouldn't it be Trrraaagic if the place got burned to the ground just after she had it fixed.
    And it was due to one of her own electric appliances so she got squat for it.

    Beyatch, the Karma train is gonna get you or your kids. Look out

    Wake up,
    Karma is the subject of a barring order in this country. It doesn't apply here.
    Nobody gets their come-uppance in Ireland.
    The bigger scumbag you are and the more you f*ck people around the less chance you have of payback.
    Look around you, bankrupt the country ? No problem off you go with a pension or two, sexual assault ? Pay a few quid and walk.
    Aggravated burglary ? Few weeks R&R and add it to your other 80 convictions.
    Karma me hole. :D


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    thebaz wrote: »
    yes I do - but why suggest they are homeless and destitude ? keching keching - remember the REAL homeless and destitude in Ireland 2013 are hungry , sleeping in hostels , with some even dying in the recent cold spell- they are not slumming it up in one of the most expensive hotels in Ireland - as I said my heart bleeds
    So they should fall to the level of poverty because their house springs a leak?


    I don't see any problem with this at all.. She's paying insurance on a house that rents at 7k-10k a month. And that's now. The house could have been worth a few million a couple of years ago especially since the first repairs cost over 500k.

    If I pay massive insurance on a Ferrari, I don't get given a Ford Focus if it's stolen.. If I pay massive insurance on a mansion, I don't get told to stay in a B&B. And it's a private broker so why be outraged? Their risk, their loss.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 13,585 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    She's probably hoping that the parrot won't squalk (talk) the real story of her alleged misfortunes...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Originally Posted by AlmightyCushionviewpost.gif
    I stopped reading when I seen she named her children Zane and Zara. What a geebag. I hope she gets nothing because of that.

    Chucken wrote: »
    Why?



    Because anyone that calls there children...o I dont know ya why Almighty cushion and why did you get all them thanks :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭hames


    Lets clear up a few things here;Axa were clearly in the wrong,and they have had to pay for their refusal to meet their obligations toward this woman and her family.

    Personally, I'm sick of hearing insurance companies wrangle their way out of genuine claims. Fair play to this woman for getting what she is perfectly entitled to receive.

    People will mock her choice of alternative accomoodation. Don't forget the accommodation was of the same cost as if Axa had homed her on a comparable house to her own, in her locality.

    I don't think the woman's claim is anywhere near as ludicrous as is being made out; in fact it's not ludicrous at all because Axa have apparently agreed with her, or else foreseen that a Judge would admit that she is perfectly within her rights here.
    Johro wrote: »
    ''She and her children Zane and Zara had sued AXA alleging unacceptable delays by it in having their home - Victoria House, St John's Road, Sandymount - reinstated so they could return to live in it.''

    Wtf? You'd think the Indo could afford people who can write?
    'so they could return to live in it' is possibly redundant, but I don't see a whole lot wrong with that sentance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭Teyla Emmagan


    Quit going on about the kids folks, that's really unfair. They can't help what their mother is like, or what she called them, or the parrot. I am sure the don't want to be in the papers either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 822 ✭✭✭Pudders


    ColeTrain wrote: »
    Could she look any smugger?

    Is that a orc over her shoulder?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,859 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    So they should fall to the level of poverty because their house springs a leak?


    I don't see any problem with this at all..

    Is this poverty :-

    "refused to even view a four-bedroom house on St John’s Road for rent at €1,900 monthly."

    At the best of times I have a bit of a problem with the privelleged gated community set in D4 , as they see themselves better than the rest -

    but when the terms destitude , poverty and homeless are termed , I have a bigger problem, especially when some people are actually dying of real poverty in Ireland 2013.

    Maybe I have to be content to live in a unjust Ireland 2 tiered system.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,635 ✭✭✭Pumpkinseeds


    Look at the state of her in the photo, it looks like she either has no class or sense of style and is just a skanger who married her way out of a Dublin slum or she's going out of her way to look like she shops in Penneys to persuade the Court that she's broke.

    My heart just bleeds for her and her pretentiously named offspring:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭hames


    Look at the state of her in the photo, it looks like she either has no class or sense of style and is just a skanger who married her way out of a Dublin slum or she's going out of her way to look like she shops in Penneys to persuade the Court that she's broke.

    My heart just bleeds for her and her pretentiously named offspring:rolleyes:
    Bizarre comments and un-necessarily personal imo.

    Why so bitter?

    The woman has been out of her home for about 4 years; all she has done here is to have secured enough money to reinstate her family's home, using an insurance claim she has paid for.

    It's hardly deserving of vitriolic comments on her appearance.clothes and whatever you think her background must have been.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,039 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    C'mon mods this lady is rich lock this bloody thread:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭donegal_road


    what about the residents of Priory Hall? They are still being forced to continue making mortgage repayments on apartments that they had to vacate 16 months ago. Dublin City Corporation said last year that they were soon going to be unable to pay for their alternative accommodation (Regency and Bewleys at the airport)

    They also paid insurance on their homes, didn't they? Why wont insurance cover the cost of fixing their properties?

    The government have yet to provide financial aid for those whose houses are crumbling away because of pyrite damage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,859 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    hames wrote: »

    Why so bitter?

    The woman has been out of her home for about 4 years; all she has done here is to have secured enough money to reinstate her family's home, using an insurance claim she has paid for.

    It's hardly deserving of vitriolic comments on her appearance.clothes and whatever you think her background must have been.

    fair eneogh point about personal attack , but she does come across as arrogant , how many people in Ireland would check in to the 4 Seasons , and expect such luxury , following an accident in the home - and then claim to be homeless and destitude , and also have another property - put it this way if she is homeless and destitude , what the hell am I or most people I know who could barely afford to buy a pint and sandwich in the 4 seasons


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    So they should fall to the level of poverty because their house springs a leak?
    Did anyone say they should fall to the level of poverty?
    Indeed they did not.

    Insistence on Four Seasons hotel instead of a very nice house is just arrogance and snobbery and greed, and reflects an inflated sense of entitlement (which is always referred to in relation to people on benefits - sense of entitlement if you're rich though, like in this case = ok it seems) and people are entitled to express that view.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    The entitlement class like the one in the article are ten a penny in UCD unfortunatly so this doesn't surprise me. I have heard a lot worse to be honest from the offspring of her type before.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Look at the state of her in the photo, it looks like she either has no class or sense of style and is just a skanger who married her way out of a Dublin slum or she's going out of her way to look like she shops in Penneys to persuade the Court that she's broke.
    Dublin slum or Dublin 4 , If you take her situation out of the equation she could look like anybody from anywhere .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭Crimson King


    Ha! Remember that bish that bought the skanky áss appartment and moaned about it??

    Alison O'Riordan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭hames


    what about the residents of Priory Hall? They are still being forced to continue making mortgage repayments on apartments that they had to vacate 16 months ago. Dublin City Corporation said last year that they were soon going to be unable to pay for their alternative accommodation (Regency and Bewleys at the airport)
    Yeah I feel worse for them.

    But what do you want this woman to do, pack her bags and go live with them to satisfy a stranger's desire to see solidarity?? What's that got to do with this
    They also paid insurance on their homes, didn't they? Why wont insurance cover the cost of fixing their properties?
    I don't know if they had insurance. If they did, there is presumably a problem with that insurance having been taken out without all of the information having been disclosed to the insurer; i.e. the danger of fire due to the construction.

    Because another individual may have been negligent in building the property, the duty to cover the costs falls on him, and not the insurance company of any resident. The builder, as we know, had no insurance that would meet these costs, so that is why Priory Hall residents are in their unenviable situation.
    The government have yet to provide financial aid for those whose houses are crumbling away because of pyrite damage.
    The government has yet to help this woman either... this story has nothing to do with the government. It's about an insurance company doing what it's supposed to do.

    Madam_X wrote: »
    Insistence on Four Seasons hotel instead of a very nice house is just arrogance and snobbery and greed, and reflects an inflated sense of entitlement
    Whatever. It's already been said that the hotel cost the same amount as it would have cost for this woman and her family to live in a similar level of accommodation to their own, in their own locality.

    It was always going to cost the same cost to the insurer, so what does it matter if it was a house or a an apartment or a hotel?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,039 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    hames wrote: »
    similar level of accommodation to their own, in their own locality.

    Maybe a stint living on the other side of the tracks would have been a valuable education for herself and her little darlings


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭hames


    Maybe a stint living on the other side of the tracks would have been a valuable education for herself and her little darlings

    You're right. After her home was flooded and uninhabitable, she should cobbled all of her ugliest clothes into a shopping trolley, and moved her children into a rusty barrel in Ringsend, to teach them a valuable lesson in knowing your place.

    Seriously, when your home is ruined, who the hell seriously thinks "jeez this is a great time to teach my kids a lesson. I'll show them what hard times are".

    :confused:


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