homeless and destitude

thebaz

but still , staying in the 4 Seasons , and 5,000 a month rent just not enough ...

my heart bleeds , is it any wonder the country is so ****ed up , in times of hardship this story makes me really angry , not forgetting the pet parrot

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/homeless-widow-offered-800000-and-apartment-in-four-seasons-29070221.html

Cereal Number

Lets sing the Fields of Athenry, it helped us in the Euros didnt it



Didnt it?

Seachmall

The insurer also alleged Ms Glennon Cully "has a gift for disagreement" and had fallen out with five former advisers.

That there is legal speak for "cunt".

thebaz

do the courts really believe such exaggerated drivel ??

Gary ITR

I don't see anything wrong with that, they probably paid insurance premiums out their nose over the years anyway

thebaz

Gary ITR wrote: »

I don't see anything wrong with that, they probably paid insurance premiums out their nose over the years anyway

so everyone who has a claim , should now be put up in the 4 Seasons , when we are told the country is knackered , and still run by the IMF

Johro

''She and her children Zane and Zara had sued AXA alleging unacceptable delays by it in having their home - Victoria House, St John's Road, Sandymount - reinstated so they could return to live in it.''

Wtf? You'd think the Indo could afford people who can write?

Where To

thebaz wrote: »

so everyone who has a claim , should now be put up in the 4 Seasons , when we are told the country is knackered , and still run by the IMF

Depends what your premium is I suppose.

Cereal Number

Johro wrote: »

''She and her children Zane and Zara had sued AXA alleging unacceptable delays by it in having their home - Victoria House, St John's Road, Sandymount - reinstated so they could return to live in it.''

Wtf? You'd think the Indo could afford people who can write?

Ha! Remember that bish that bought the skanky áss appartment and moaned about it??

AlmightyCushion

I stopped reading when I seen she named her children Zane and Zara. What a geebag. I hope she gets nothing because of that.

thebaz

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

I stopped reading when I seen she named her children Zane and Zara. What a geebag. I hope she gets nothing because of that.

don't forget the poor parrot that must be upkept in D4 only

Johro

Yeah this is the offending bit:

''Ann Marie Glennon Cully said, while there were other houses similar to her home on Dublin's Ailesbury, Shrewsbury and Simmonscourt roads at rents between €7-10,000 monthly, they were not available. They moved into the Four Seasons because it was near their home and the only nearby hotel that would take the children's pets - four dogs and a parrot.
AXA argued she herself chose the "very expensive" Four Seasons and was intent on staying there "at all costs". It claimed she "set her face"
against other substantial family residences and refused to even view a four bedroom house on St John's Road for rent at €1,900 monthly.''

Now I don't like insurance companies, in fact I despise the way they always look for a sneaky get out clause when it comes to paying out, to people who have paid their premiums for years, but this here is taking the piss alright.
I wonder where the water escaped from? If I were associated with AXA I'd want to know.

3rdDegree

Cereal Number wrote: »

Ha! Remember that bish that bought the skanky áss appartment and moaned about it??

Hmm, no?

ColeTrain

Could she look any smugger?

thebaz

Johro wrote: »

Now I don't like insurance companies, in fact I despise the way they always look for a sneaky get out clause when it comes to paying out, to people who have paid their premiums for years, but this here is taking the piss alright.
I wonder where the water escaped from? If I were associated with AXA I'd want to know.

agree , but , at the end of the day these kind of ludicrous claims/payments will make it even more difficult for the average , decent (honest) person trying to get moderate legitamit payment

Johro

Poor Zane and Zara were on constant duty monitoring the pump day and night.
No doubt while mummy slept. What a slappable woman.
I'm guessing her premium will go up.

Johro

thebaz wrote: »

agree , but , at the end of the day these kind of ludicrous claims/payments will make it even more difficult for the average , decent (honest) person trying to get moderate legitamit payment

I know. AXA will get it back. From us.

thebaz

Johro wrote: »

Poor Zane and Zara were on constant duty monitoring the pump day and night.

Where were the maids or servants ? i thought they did pump duty , hate to see Zane and Zara hands get dirty

Gary ITR

thebaz wrote: »

so everyone who has a claim , should now be put up in the 4 Seasons , when we are told the country is knackered , and still run by the IMF

Do you understand insurance? If they paid a premium to protect their home which is clearly a nice gaff then the insurance company would be obliged to put them up in another nice gaff.

ballsymchugh

thebaz wrote: »

but still , staying in the 4 Seasons , and 5,000 a month rent just not enough ...

my heart bleeds , is it any wonder the country is so ****ed up , in times of hardship this story makes me really angry , not forgetting the pet parrot

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/homeless-widow-offered-800000-and-apartment-in-four-seasons-29070221.html

i'm not sure why this reflects on the state of the country, it is a private case between someone and an insurance company.
she stood up for what she felt she deserved after spending what was likely a hefty premium and the courts agreed.

before quinn went tits up, posters here were complaining about their modus operandi where they'd try and get you to take a weekend in the slieve russell instead of claiming etc.
i have very little sympathy for insurance companies tbh.

thebaz

Gary ITR wrote: »

Do you understand insurance? If they paid a premium to protect their home which is clearly a nice gaff then the insurance company would be obliged to put them up in another nice gaff.

yes I do - but why suggest they are homeless and destitude ? keching keching - remember the REAL homeless and destitude in Ireland 2013 are hungry , sleeping in hostels , with some even dying in the recent cold spell- they are not slumming it up in one of the most expensive hotels in Ireland - as I said my heart bleeds

Johro

Gary ITR wrote: »

Do you understand insurance? If they paid a premium to protect their home which is clearly a nice gaff then the insurance company would be obliged to put them up in another nice gaff.

To be fair to the OP though she was offered 'nice gaffs'. She's just one of those people who thinks she's entitled. She saw an opportunity and took it too far, and now she has been awarded €800,000 for her trouble.
Normal people would have taken up residence in one of the suggested homes, or would even have considered simply taking up the upper floors of the house while repairs were carried out. There was damage to the ground floor, but just water damage, if it was me I would have stayed and saved myself a lot of hassle. But hey, it paid off for her. AXA will get their money back alright and I don't have a lot of sympathy for insurance companies either, but other people will end up paying the price for her greed.

ballsymchugh

Johro wrote: »

To be fair to the OP though she was offered 'nice gaffs'. She's just one of those people who thinks she's entitled. She saw an opportunity and took it too far, and now she has been awarded €800,000 for her trouble.
Normal people would have taken up residence in one of the suggested homes, or would even have considered simply taking up the upper floors of the house while repairs were carried out. There was damage to the ground floor, but just water damage, if it was me I would have stayed and saved myself a lot of hassle. But hey, it paid off for her. AXA will get their money back alright and I don't have a lot of sympathy for insurance companies either, but other people will end up paying the price for her greed.

don't forget the legal team, if the award is bigger, then they'll do better also. it's in their interest to use words like 'destitute'. they also thought she would be able to win this if they took it this far.

Johro

ballsymchugh wrote: »

don't forget the legal team, if the award is bigger, then they'll do better also. it's in their interest to use words like 'destitute'. they also thought she would be able to win this if they took it this far.

Sure. They're greedy too.

thebaz

ballsymchugh wrote: »

don't forget the legal team, if the award is bigger, then they'll do better also. it's in their interest to use words like 'destitute'. they also thought she would be able to win this if they took it this far.

i take exception to the word homeless and destitude , especially when the have another home in Brittas Bay , and hefty trust funds -

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2013/0215/1224330059138.html

hardly sound like the lifestyle of most homeless in Ireland , surely the judicary can see through this ?

sock puppet

Johro wrote: »

To be fair to the OP though she was offered 'nice gaffs'. She's just one of those people who thinks she's entitled. She saw an opportunity and took it too far, and now she has been awarded €800,000 for her trouble.

Are you saying that insurance companies shouldn't pay out on claims

Galwayguy35

It's amazing how the other half lives, 800 k to repair a house, nearly 8 k a month in rent to stay in a hotel....

Smidge

Ah FFS....
I had a fire in the house a couple of years ago and the place was wrecked(not burnt to the ground, but wrecked)

We got fukcing buttons:mad::mad::mad:

I paid my insurance, how the feck did she get all of that????

BTW it took my ins company 16 months to settle while we lived in a contaminated house.

thebaz

sock puppet wrote: »

Are you saying that insurance companies shouldn't pay out on claims

I dislike Insurance companies but
the more they pay out , the more passed on to the rest of us for policies

and I speak from experience , I have never had an insurance company pay me a cent , and had insurance all my life , they weasled out with small print stuff ... what goes around comes around

Nonoperational

God I hate those stupid smilies...

narddog

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

I stopped reading when I seen she named her children Zane and Zara. What a geebag. I hope she gets nothing because of that.

Makes me hope this zitch gets zuck all.

sock puppet

thebaz wrote: »

I dislike Insurance companies but
the more they pay out , the more passed on to the rest of us for policies

And? If an insurer fails to accurately price risk at the outset that's hardly the consumer's fault as long as they haven't been fraudulent.

and I speak from experience , I have never had an insurance company pay me a cent , and had insurance all my life , they weasled out with small print stuff ... what goes around comes around

To be fair they tried to get out of paying for this claim too!

Augmerson

thebaz wrote: »

but still , staying in the 4 Seasons , and 5,000 a month rent just not enough ...

my heart bleeds , is it any wonder the country is so ****ed up , in times of hardship this story makes me really angry , not forgetting the pet parrot

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/homeless-widow-offered-800000-and-apartment-in-four-seasons-29070221.html

Indo is a rag.

thebaz

sock puppet wrote: »

And? If an insurer fails to accurately price risk at the outset that's hardly the consumer's fault as long as they haven't been fraudulent.

Pay whatever is covered , absolutly , but someone is telling porkies below from IT, perhaps it is Axa ?

"Axa disputed claims Ms Glennon Cully was virtually “destitute” and alleged she had another house in Brittas Bay and her children had a €1.4 million trust fund.

The Commercial Court was told the family is likely today to accept a €645,000 offer, on top of earlier payments totalling €159,000. "

thebaz

sock puppet wrote: »

To be fair they tried to get out of paying for this claim too!

So you think family were correct in staying in the 4 seasons ?

my claim was so small , and yet they paid me nothing , on a small technicality - this type of gravy train case , will makes it more difficult and expensive for others to claim

Ruudi_Mentari

Knew this guy, Desi..

Desi the destitute. Started his own institute n called it Destination: Destitution. Needless to say there were many drop-outs n before you knew it desi dropped out too.. there was nobody left to pick up the pieces and desi's venture collapsed.

sock puppet

thebaz wrote: »

Pay whatever is covered , absolutly , but someone is telling porkies below from IT, perhaps it is Axa ?

"Axa disputed claims Ms Glennon Cully was virtually “destitute” and alleged she had another house in Brittas Bay and her children had a €1.4 million trust fund.

The Commercial Court was told the family is likely today to accept a €645,000 offer, on top of earlier payments totalling €159,000. "

She's obviosuly not destitute, the money she received was for repairs and accomadation though.

Seachmall

Ruudi_Mentari wrote: »

Knew this guy, Desi..

Desi the destitute. Started his own institute n called it Destination: Destitution. Needless to say there were many drop-outs n before you knew it desi dropped out too.. there was nobody left to pick up the pieces and desi's venture collapsed.

I can't read that without trying to make it rhyme .

StinkyMunkey

Am I the only one that thinks the judge was her neighbour or associated with her family in some way. They prolly all gonna meet for brunch and have a good laugh about it.

Chucken

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

I stopped reading when I seen she named her children Zane and Zara. What a geebag. I hope she gets nothing because of that.

Why?

AngryHippie

Wouldn't it be Trrraaagic if the place got burned to the ground just after she had it fixed.
And it was due to one of her own electric appliances so she got squat for it.

Beyatch, the Karma train is gonna get you or your kids. Look out

Humans eh!

AngryHippie wrote: »

Wouldn't it be Trrraaagic if the place got burned to the ground just after she had it fixed.
And it was due to one of her own electric appliances so she got squat for it.

Beyatch, the Karma train is gonna get you or your kids. Look out

Wake up,
Karma is the subject of a barring order in this country. It doesn't apply here.
Nobody gets their come-uppance in Ireland.
The bigger scumbag you are and the more you f*ck people around the less chance you have of payback.
Look around you, bankrupt the country ? No problem off you go with a pension or two, sexual assault ? Pay a few quid and walk.
Aggravated burglary ? Few weeks R&R and add it to your other 80 convictions.
Karma me hole.

thebaz

thebaz wrote: »

yes I do - but why suggest they are homeless and destitude ? keching keching - remember the REAL homeless and destitude in Ireland 2013 are hungry , sleeping in hostels , with some even dying in the recent cold spell- they are not slumming it up in one of the most expensive hotels in Ireland - as I said my heart bleeds

So they should fall to the level of poverty because their house springs a leak?


I don't see any problem with this at all.. She's paying insurance on a house that rents at 7k-10k a month. And that's now. The house could have been worth a few million a couple of years ago especially since the first repairs cost over 500k.

If I pay massive insurance on a Ferrari, I don't get given a Ford Focus if it's stolen.. If I pay massive insurance on a mansion, I don't get told to stay in a B&B. And it's a private broker so why be outraged? Their risk, their loss.

JupiterKid

She's probably hoping that the parrot won't squalk (talk) the real story of her alleged misfortunes...

Sunnyisland

Originally Posted by AlmightyCushion
I stopped reading when I seen she named her children Zane and Zara. What a geebag. I hope she gets nothing because of that.

Chucken wrote: »

Why?

Because anyone that calls there children...o I dont know ya why Almighty cushion and why did you get all them thanks

hames

Lets clear up a few things here;Axa were clearly in the wrong,and they have had to pay for their refusal to meet their obligations toward this woman and her family.

Personally, I'm sick of hearing insurance companies wrangle their way out of genuine claims. Fair play to this woman for getting what she is perfectly entitled to receive.

People will mock her choice of alternative accomoodation. Don't forget the accommodation was of the same cost as if Axa had homed her on a comparable house to her own, in her locality.

I don't think the woman's claim is anywhere near as ludicrous as is being made out; in fact it's not ludicrous at all because Axa have apparently agreed with her, or else foreseen that a Judge would admit that she is perfectly within her rights here.

Johro wrote: »

''She and her children Zane and Zara had sued AXA alleging unacceptable delays by it in having their home - Victoria House, St John's Road, Sandymount - reinstated so they could return to live in it.''

Wtf? You'd think the Indo could afford people who can write?

'so they could return to live in it' is possibly redundant, but I don't see a whole lot wrong with that sentance.

Teyla Emmagan

Quit going on about the kids folks, that's really unfair. They can't help what their mother is like, or what she called them, or the parrot. I am sure the don't want to be in the papers either.

Pudders

ColeTrain wrote: »

Could she look any smugger?

Is that a orc over her shoulder?

thebaz

Deleted User wrote: »

So they should fall to the level of poverty because their house springs a leak?


I don't see any problem with this at all..

Is this poverty :-

"refused to even view a four-bedroom house on St John’s Road for rent at €1,900 monthly."

At the best of times I have a bit of a problem with the privelleged gated community set in D4 , as they see themselves better than the rest -

but when the terms destitude , poverty and homeless are termed , I have a bigger problem, especially when some people are actually dying of real poverty in Ireland 2013.

Maybe I have to be content to live in a unjust Ireland 2 tiered system.

Pumpkinseeds

Look at the state of her in the photo, it looks like she either has no class or sense of style and is just a skanger who married her way out of a Dublin slum or she's going out of her way to look like she shops in Penneys to persuade the Court that she's broke.

My heart just bleeds for her and her pretentiously named offspring:rolleyes:

hames

Pumpkinseeds wrote: »

Look at the state of her in the photo, it looks like she either has no class or sense of style and is just a skanger who married her way out of a Dublin slum or she's going out of her way to look like she shops in Penneys to persuade the Court that she's broke.

My heart just bleeds for her and her pretentiously named offspring:rolleyes:

Bizarre comments and un-necessarily personal imo.

Why so bitter?

The woman has been out of her home for about 4 years; all she has done here is to have secured enough money to reinstate her family's home, using an insurance claim she has paid for.

It's hardly deserving of vitriolic comments on her appearance.clothes and whatever you think her background must have been.