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Do you blackout often from drinking?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭tomthetank


    janeo80 wrote: »
    Are you frequenting this forum while drunk? Lolzbbzzxoxox

    No.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭hairyleprechaun


    If a mod sees this could you lock it for me. Thanks.
    I'll do my best to never mention it in AH again.

    I'd rather we didn't have it locked. I've had a few questions running around my head recently, and it has been interesting to read some of the responses here. You can tick some of the boxes on the list, and it confirms your fears!

    Chin up Teddy, what I would do is listen to the concerned posters who post some useful tips and advice, and ignore the ones slating you and giving short but inevitably useless answers.
    irish son wrote: »
    You sound a lot like myself OP, often wake up the next morning and remembering nothing from the last few hours from the night before, I often find out after that I did or said something stupid, not fun at all. Sound like it happens from the same thing too, I go out saying I wont drink to much as I dont want it to happen again but then I feel sober and I have another and another and then I'm to drunk, I find it hard to stay in that drunken sweet spot :)

    Do you drink your drinks quickly OP? I do and I think this is part of the problem, If you drink your first few drinks quick it's hard to slow down after that.

    This sounds like me too, I love to get tipsy and then just keep it topped up at that spot, but I go passed it most times. In rounds with the lads back home I used to buy the odd inbetweener, because I drank faster, not necessarily more, just faster.
    nuxxx wrote: »
    On a serious note, giving up drinking last year for 6 months was the best thing I ever did. The positive effects in terms of physical and mental health and over all well being cannot be described in words, It's like a different life. Sadly I've been back binge drinking the last while, I'm going to try give it up again. The first few weeks are the hardest.

    I would love to do this, I have tried before. By saying that I mean, I'd get to nearly a week and someone would invite me to a barbeque, and that's it till the next bad hangover.

    I saw a signature here on boards this morning where someone had quit the fags, and it counts how many days since the last one, how many avoided and how much money saved. After I saw that I made an excel sheet that does the same for the beers, trouble is, my last bender was on Sunday for the Irish game so the numbers aren't that exciting yet, but hopefully as the digits get bigger so will the will to keep the clock ticking over...

    The other problem with it is the picture of beer that the summary sheet shows looks delicious!

    Anyway, I started doing my personal accounts/budget in excel to try and control my spending and increase savings and it has been working pretty well so far, so I'm hoping this one will keep my mind on the prize too.

    Actually, I think excel will save my life!


  • Posts: 24,773 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    irish son wrote: »
    It's true though, if you have a girlfriend she will not be to happy if you go out and get really drunk every Friday and Saturday night, she will put the reigns on you.

    You do know women like to go out drinking too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 303 ✭✭Discostuy


    I wouldn't normally post in threads like these but...

    Teddy,

    You should go have a chat with your GP about your problem...and it is a serious problem.
    Get some sensible advice and help.
    There has been a huge mix bag of replies in here, most of which won't help you.

    You won't get much useful advice in AH as most of the users posting (no disrespect to users)
    - have never been in the situation you're in
    - don't see their own blacking out/excessive drinking as a problem
    - don't know or have never experienced first hand what happens someone when alcohol abuse gets bad

    Cutting down, quitting for a few weeks, moderation etc won't help you. You have a serious addiction (as per you're other drink related threads) that needs serious help.

    Forget what your mates say or think, you need to look out for yourself.
    It will require you to make big changes in your life. Your social life/friendships will suffer but you'll be a better person for it in the end, and your mates will still be there...drinking, hungover and out of shape!

    Due to the crappy drinking culture in Ireland, you'll find people questioning you for not drinking, slagging you off etc...you'll later find this stems from lack of understanding and denial about their own drinking habits.

    You brush off body pains and aches, but these sound like your liver and kidneys are struggling to cope with your excessive drinking.
    You need to start listening to what your body is telling you!!. The liver is an amazingly strong organ...when it hurts, something is badly wrong.

    Quitting drink is tough and requires a lot of change. But a drink free life is so much better (and even if you think its not, well it couldn't be any worse than what you're living through at the moment)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,273 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    irish son wrote: »
    It's true though, if you have a girlfriend she will not be to happy if you go out and get really drunk every Friday and Saturday night, she will put the reigns on you.
    Bleedin' women, always getting us to rule countries...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭juan.kerr


    I don't drink, so no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 399 ✭✭solas111




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭irish son



    You do know women like to go out drinking too.

    yeah but half the reason single lads go drinking is the chance of pulling and its the same for women. Of course if you half an other half you will still drink but just not as much imo as you don't have to try pull. Also when single you may have less options of things to do on Friday/Saturday nights apart from drinking than if your going out with someone. This is how i felt when i had a girlfriend compared to now and its the same with my friends.


  • Posts: 618 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Happens everytime I go out as well now. Remember to a certain point of the night and then nothing. Very frustrating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Recession's officially over, then? Or has the price of drink droppeed?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • Posts: 24,773 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    irish son wrote: »
    yeah but half the reason single lads go drinking is the chance of pulling and its the same for women. Of course if you half an other half you will still drink but just not as much imo as you don't have to try pull. Also when single you may have less options of things to do on Friday/Saturday nights apart from drinking than if your going out with someone. This is how i felt when i had a girlfriend compared to now and its the same with my friends.

    I suppose its different for everyone and depending on how into going out the girlfriend is, as far as I'm concerned my drinking isn't much different now than when I was single. I don't go out any less (more if anything with extra nights going out with the gf) and don't drink any less. Having a gf just means you can concentrate on the drinking and not worry about having to go on the pull.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 500 ✭✭✭Bruce7


    I know a lot of people, myself included, who drank extremely heavily from their late teens until their early 30s, and then just calmed down as they got older.

    I also know a few who were unable to stop and are probably headed for an early grave.

    I won't claim I know a surefire method for staying in the one group and not the other. But one warning sign I've noticed is drinking with younger and younger people - E.g. you used to go drinking with a group of guys your age that you grew up with and have been mates with for years, but now it is their little brothers and their mates that you drink with.

    I know this sounds a bit stupid, like some adolescent thing where you are only meant to hang around with people the exact same age as you, but I have noticed it being a common factor with all of the people I know who have chronic drink problems.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11 ClicheGuevara


    Only happened to me twice. First time was so embarrassing I can't even tell it all here despite my anonymity on boards. The gist is I ended up really drunk at 12 o'clock on a Thursday morning and woke up at 4PM in my own bed covered in my own vomit.

    Second time I lost my wallet, jacket and headphones and spent more money than I even knew I had. No recollection of the club I went to, getting a taxi home, talking to my friend on the phone because he was scared shítless for me, etc. It scares the fúck out of me that I could get so drunk I forget entire hours so luckily I cut back a lot and hopefully will never experience anything like it again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭marialouise


    Discostuy wrote: »
    I wouldn't normally post in threads like these but...

    Teddy,

    You should go have a chat with your GP about your problem...and it is a serious problem.
    Get some sensible advice and help.
    There has been a huge mix bag of replies in here, most of which won't help you.

    You won't get much useful advice in AH as most of the users posting (no disrespect to users)
    - have never been in the situation you're in
    - don't see their own blacking out/excessive drinking as a problem
    - don't know or have never experienced first hand what happens someone when alcohol abuse gets bad

    Cutting down, quitting for a few weeks, moderation etc won't help you. You have a serious addiction (as per you're other drink related threads) that needs serious help.

    Forget what your mates say or think, you need to look out for yourself.
    It will require you to make big changes in your life. Your social life/friendships will suffer but you'll be a better person for it in the end, and your mates will still be there...drinking, hungover and out of shape!

    Due to the crappy drinking culture in Ireland, you'll find people questioning you for not drinking, slagging you off etc...you'll later find this stems from lack of understanding and denial about their own drinking habits.

    You brush off body pains and aches, but these sound like your liver and kidneys are struggling to cope with your excessive drinking.
    You need to start listening to what your body is telling you!!. The liver is an amazingly strong organ...when it hurts, something is badly wrong.

    Quitting drink is tough and requires a lot of change. But a drink free life is so much better (and even if you think its not, well it couldn't be any worse than what you're living through at the moment)


    I know what alcohol abuse does to people.

    I drink, sometimes I drink lots, sometimes I drink in moderation, sometimes I forget a few details, sometimes I forget entire nights, sometimes I forget nothing at all.

    I do not have a problem with alochol, and perhaps OP does, but maybe he doesn't, his circle of friends is just still having the alcohol based bants (sorry for using the word banter). It is cultural, and isn't good for us, but I think this is a slight overreaction.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭HTML5!


    but I think this is a slight overreaction.


    I think this is the problem with Irish culture - people see the concern in drinking to excess and not being able to stop etc. as an overreaction.

    It's not healthy. It's not OK. Just because a lot of people do it doesn't make it OK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭marialouise


    HTML5! wrote: »
    I think this is the problem with Irish culture - people see the concern in drinking to excess and not being able to stop etc. as an overreaction.

    It's not healthy. It's not OK. Just because a lot of people do it doesn't make it OK.


    I specifically said it's a cultural problem and that it isn't good for us.

    And the previous post did not express concern, but labelled them as an addict with a serious problem.

    The OP is functional without alcohol, doesn't rely on it to solve problems or whatnot, is simply a drinker who doesn't know their limits.

    OP, know the one that's one too many, drink at your own pace, try a few nights where you only bring out €30 and no card, and you simply won't get sh!tfaced.

    I am not condoning binge drinking or serious depressive alcohol abuse, but as long as we're replying in this thread, we're talking about OP and memory loss. Drink less. You're probably fine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭HTML5!


    I specifically said it's a cultural problem and that it isn't good for us.

    And the previous post did not express concern, but labelled them as an addict with a serious problem.

    The OP is functional without alcohol, doesn't rely on it to solve problems or whatnot, is simply a drinker who doesn't know their limits.

    OP, know the one that's one too many, drink at your own pace, try a few nights where you only bring out €30 and no card, and you simply won't get sh!tfaced.

    I am not condoning binge drinking or serious depressive alcohol abuse, but as long as we're replying in this thread, we're talking about OP and memory loss. Drink less. You're probably fine.

    In my view, you're simply telling someone with a drink problem, perhaps not a serious one, but one that's not conducive to the life he obviously wants and he's finding it difficult to stop.

    That sounds like a problem to me.

    Edit: Just on a personal note: I used to drink way too much. I still like to get drunk (not wasted) when I go out, which isn't very often. It's taken a few years to get my head straight as regards alcohol because I did have a 'not so serious' problem.

    It was hard to stop drinking. It was hard to want to do anything else when you hated your job, your relationships, that release at the weekends, I lived for. I know plenty of people who still do. And I believe this to be an unhealthy lifestyle, more so for your mind than anything.

    Drinking when you're in a bad place magnifies your problems. Each Monday you start a step backwards from where you were the previous week. That's how it felt for me anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson




    I know what alcohol abuse does to people.

    I drink, sometimes I drink lots, sometimes I drink in moderation, sometimes I forget a few details, sometimes I forget entire nights, sometimes I forget nothing at all.

    I do not have a problem with alochol, and perhaps OP does, but maybe he doesn't, his circle of friends is just still having the alcohol based bants (sorry for using the word banter). It is cultural, and isn't good for us, but I think this is a slight overreaction.
    I see your point but again if we're all actually honest about it that's never really acceptable is it to be having black outs. It's over indulging on a drug which is a depressant.
    I know where you're coming from though and a couple of years ago I was still having black outs and drinking too much like so many other people my age but it wasn't a problem for me either. This is because I wasn't experiencing the withdrawal effects of alcohol. I wasn't getting any crazy thoughts while sobering up. I was still having binges over the course of a few days but it wasn't the same for reasons I can't really put my finger on or explain.

    It's funny that Des Bishop points out that so many Irish will say "stupid yank thinks he's an alcoholic, the lad probably got pissed once" and to be honest that's often my thoughts when I hear people say such things which is really a ****ed up mentality.
    People have the exact same reaction to what I've said in this thread, which I completely understand.

    I said I wouldn't talk about it again but I'm going to anyway. I have an interest in the drinking culture in this country and the problems that go along with it so why shouldn't I. I will however stop posting when I'm coming down, so to speak.

    One last thing I've noticed is that among men anyway there is this ridiculous macho bravado that goes on when someone says they're drinking too much. People immediately get annoyed because they feel they're drinking more than you or that they experience the withdrawal effects worse than the person who brought the point up. I doesn't really matter if you're drinking more than the person or if you believe you have it worse. That's your problem, and it is possible for more than one person to have to same problem.
    Telling the person they're fine is the exact opposite of what they're saying and it's most likely they know more about themselves than anyone else.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭Ruudi_Mentari


    How the fcuk do you get addicted to booze, is a hangover not so much that but a deprivation of properly functioning motor control necassary to be able to get more.. is feeling and looking more like shìt than ever, for up to a week after a single solitary session not a deterrant? Who would even want to develop a tolerance for this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    How the fcuk do you get addicted to booze, is a hangover not so much that but a deprivation of properly functioning motor control necassary to be able to get more.. is feeling and looking more like shìt than ever, for up to a week after a single solitary session not a deterrant? Who would even want to develop a tolerance for this.

    Addicts don't give a fukk about the consequences while they're active, whether it's alcohol, gambling, heroin, crystal meth, eating, whatever. That's kinda what defines an addiction, not being able to stop when you know you should or even when you want to.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    How the fcuk do you get addicted to booze, is a hangover not so much that but a deprivation of properly functioning motor control necassary to be able to get more.. is feeling and looking more like shìt than ever, for up to a week after a single solitary session not a deterrant? Who would even want to develop a tolerance for this.
    You think heroin addicts want to be addicted to heroin?
    Most people will not want to be addicted to anything. It's not exactly a choice for most people is it.
    If you want to make sure you never get addicted to alcohol, never drink, ever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭Ruudi_Mentari


    I guess.

    But whe it impinges on my looks that's it man, game over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    I guess.

    But whe it impinges on my looks that's it man, game over.
    Tom Hardy was an alcoholic. So was Colin Farrell. They're both considered very attractive.
    It could be too late if you wait until it starts impinging on your looks.
    That being said I'm sure they'd look rough, as anyone would after being a bender for a few days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭marialouise


    Sorry OP it was just in the first post you said "It's not good so let's not focus on the obvious there." So I wasn't getting too stuck in to "alcohol is a drug and memory loss is a side effect, you need to stop"... I wasn't sure how you were feeling about life in general and that's why I said maybe you do have a problem, maybe you don't, I just thought this was a sort of... Do YOU blackout, yes/no kinda thread. I do. And I find your last post and HTML5's last two posts to be really insightful and informative as to why you feel and think the way you do.

    I think there's definitely thsi kind of mindset in your college years of WOOH! I drank more than you last night!!! I drank a whole bottle of wine and had a great night!!!! Obviously a bottle of wine is not intended for consumption by 1 person in a single evening, but it happens. If it happens on a Friday night and then again on a Saturday night and you've forgotten your weekend by the time you get back to work, maybe there's a problem.

    WHY are you drinking, and why are you drinking so much? I drink to relax, I don't get to do it often, and when I do, I'll have the full bottle of wine over dinner and before I go out. I love a shot at 1am, and I know alcohol is a depressant, but it just makes me more giddy than I usually am. I like the taste of wine, I like doing a shot with friends. I enjoy it, and I don't abuse it, I don't drink TO forget, but sometimes it happens. I take €20 otu with me and no card, and sometimes I just predrink and don't take any money at all, the night revolves around the stories and memories we make, not around how much I drank and I hate waking up thinking i spent €10
    on two drinks I don't remember having, what a waste!

    What crazy thoughts sobering up? And what reasons for bingeing before and not now?
    You don't actually have to answer those, but if we are getting into a discussion on reasons for binge drinking and Irish society's attitude to drink, they're things you need to think about, and things that will help you decide what direction you want to go in with alcohol. I have a recovering(recovered?) alcoholic, a pioneer, and something of a wine conoisseur in my immediate family, all with their own battles and opinions on alcohol... it's been really interesting reading yours and HTML5's (along with others).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Tom_Cruise


    Is alcohol bad for peoples skin?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭janeo80


    Just a tad. It will bring on signs of ageing earlier than normal, but your liver will probably have packed in before you'll notice the crows feet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    Sorry OP it was just in the first post you said "It's not good so let's not focus on the obvious there." So I wasn't getting too stuck in to "alcohol is a drug and memory loss is a side effect, you need to stop"... I wasn't sure how you were feeling about life in general and that's why I said maybe you do have a problem, maybe you don't, I just thought this was a sort of... Do YOU blackout, yes/no kinda thread. I do. And I find your last post and HTML5's last two posts to be really insightful and informative as to why you feel and think the way you do.

    I think there's definitely thsi kind of mindset in your college years of WOOH! I drank more than you last night!!! I drank a whole bottle of wine and had a great night!!!! Obviously a bottle of wine is not intended for consumption by 1 person in a single evening, but it happens. If it happens on a Friday night and then again on a Saturday night and you've forgotten your weekend by the time you get back to work, maybe there's a problem.

    WHY are you drinking, and why are you drinking so much? I drink to relax, I don't get to do it often, and when I do, I'll have the full bottle of wine over dinner and before I go out. I love a shot at 1am, and I know alcohol is a depressant, but it just makes me more giddy than I usually am. I like the taste of wine, I like doing a shot with friends. I enjoy it, and I don't abuse it, I don't drink TO forget, but sometimes it happens. I take €20 otu with me and no card, and sometimes I just predrink and don't take any money at all, the night revolves around the stories and memories we make, not around how much I drank and I hate waking up thinking i spent €10
    on two drinks I don't remember having, what a waste!

    What crazy thoughts sobering up? And what reasons for bingeing before and not now?
    You don't actually have to answer those, but if we are getting into a discussion on reasons for binge drinking and Irish society's attitude to drink, they're things you need to think about, and things that will help you decide what direction you want to go in with alcohol. I have a recovering(recovered?) alcoholic, a pioneer, and something of a wine conoisseur in my immediate family, all with their own battles and opinions on alcohol... it's been really interesting reading yours and HTML5's (along with others).
    Some interesting things you brought up there but I'll reply tomorrow if that's all right, I need to be somewhat effective in work tomorrow :p

    But yea, I'd prefer to read other peoples experiences instead of making this thread about me personally. I've think I've said enough about myself on this subject for the time being :o

    Oh before I go, one thing I really enjoy about recovering from the weekend is how sharp my mind feels. I feel quite self assured and definite in my own opinions. Whereas many of my posts from a Sunday night leave me somewhat mortified!
    Anyway good night folks :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭Ruudi_Mentari


    I guess maybe theres an upshot, from that rock bottom sensation. Booze ain't all bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭janeo80


    See? I think that's just normal hangover behaviour. Not even hangover, last night I sent some really stupid emails at 2am (double booking myself for things, forgetting to edit out bits of copied material etc) jut because I couldn't think clearly. Time for a nightcap now anyway and off to bed myself!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 579 ✭✭✭cartell_best


    I've blacked out many times. You know when you reach the stage where you place the last imprint in your mind, knowing (more than likely) that, that is your own personal imprint on that night. No matter how much that last feature in your head, plays. In the times I've ended up with a blank canvas, I have never produced a knife, I have never gone home but to return, wielding a life changing weapon, or attempt to hit someone that will end up with an impact on to concrete, that could cause a potential catastrophic result. When I go out, I have a laugh, engage in banter. I've been told I I'm always a happy drunk. Please God, it stays that way :)


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