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No such thing as road tax.

  • 12-02-2013 02:03AM
    #1
    stoneill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,607 ✭✭✭


    I'm just posting this as it keeps coming up in the car hates cyclist hates car threads.

    There is NO SUCH THING AS ROAD TAX.

    Motor tax is for the privilege of owning a motor vehicle.
    Road repairs come from central funds which ALL tax payers (including cyclists) fund.


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  • #2
    Kxiii
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 864 ✭✭✭Kxiii


    And this is news?


  • #3
    Absolutezero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭Absolutezero


    stoneill wrote: »
    I'm just posting this as it keeps coming up in the car hates cyclist hates car threads.

    There is NO SUCH THING AS ROAD TAX.

    Motor tax is for the privilege of owning a motor vehicle.
    Road repairs come from central funds which ALL tax payers (including cyclists) fund.
    Ya gotta love central funds.


  • #4
    ThreeLineWhip
    Closed Accounts Posts: 473 ✭✭ThreeLineWhip


    Time to lie down.


  • #5
    Scortho
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Scortho


    Kxiii wrote: »
    And this is news?

    Most likely due to the number of treads about people paying road tax.
    Especially seen during threads involving a cyclist and cars and you'd generally see something along the lines off: I pay road tax I've more right to be on this road than you do kinda thing.


  • #6
    Cereal Number
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 329 ✭✭Cereal Number


    stoneill wrote: »
    I'm just posting this as it keeps coming up in the car hates cyclist hates car threads.

    There is NO SUCH THING AS ROAD TAX.

    Motor tax is for the privilege of owning a motor vehicle.
    Road repairs come from central funds which ALL tax payers (including cyclists) fund.

    Homer Tax??


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  • #7
    Pilotdude5
    Closed Accounts Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Pilotdude5


    Bears should pay the bear tax. I pay the Homer tax.


  • #8
    jhegarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,138 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    stoneill wrote: »
    Motor tax is for the privilege of owning a motor vehicle.


    No , it's for using it on the road. If you don't use it on the road you don't need to pay the tax.


  • #9
    ThreeLineWhip
    Closed Accounts Posts: 473 ✭✭ThreeLineWhip


    Bear tax?


  • #10
    Iwannahurl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    jhegarty wrote: »
    No , it's for using it on the road. If you don't use it on the road you don't need to pay the tax.




    It's for using a motor vehicle.


  • #11
    Spook_ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,892 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    One and only contribution to this thread....

    Because it comes from a central fund and Road Fund License is paid into the central fund, it does go towards paying for roads, as well as hospitals, schools, bail outs etc.

    Motorist paying €1000 income tax + €500 RFL Motor Tax though only payable if you use/keep the vehicle on a road

    Cyclist paying €1000 income tax

    Net gain to central fund €500


    Edit

    Not to mention the extra tax paid for the fuel to actually use it! which also goes into the central fund, so cyclists get off our ****ing roads and stick to the footpaths you lawbreaking criminals

    2nd edit in relation to someone pedanticly refering RFL as motor tax


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  • #12
    Hijpo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,471 ✭✭✭Hijpo


    jhegarty wrote: »


    No , it's for using it on the road. If you don't use it on the road you don't need to pay the tax.

    How long before they bring in a peddle tax?


  • #13
    Bad Santa
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 381 ✭✭Bad Santa


    No, it's not a bloody privilege tax.

    It's an easy target environment based tax is what it is.

    Which is why large engine sized / greater Co2 emissions cars get taxed more than small ones.

    Yet, someone who drives their 2.0l car 10,000 miles per year, while having less of an effect on the environment that someone driving the same spec'd car for for 100,000 miles a year still gets charged the same amount of car tax, as our government sees no distinction between the two.

    Motor tax / Car tax / Road Tax / Automo-fcuking-bile, call it what you like - it should be sought at the pumps, no where else.


  • #14
    nelly17
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,209 ✭✭✭nelly17


    Iwannahurl wrote: »
    It's for using a motor vehicle.

    No its for generating Revenue


  • #15
    De Hipster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭De Hipster


    Psycholysts should use psycholypaths.


  • #16
    Iwannahurl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    Motorist paying €1000 income tax + €500 RFL

    Cyclist paying €1000 income tax

    Net gain to central fund €500



    Motorists creating more wear and tear on roads: €?
    Motorists producing more CO2 and particulate emissions: €?
    Motorists causing more road fatalities and injuries: €?
    Motorists creating larger burden on health services: €?
    Proliferation of expensive infrastructure promoting car dependence and leading to adverse population health outcomes: €?


  • #17
    ThreeLineWhip
    Closed Accounts Posts: 473 ✭✭ThreeLineWhip


    De Hipster wrote: »
    Psycholysts should use psycholypaths.
    The irony of that statement is delicious.


  • #18
    Iwannahurl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    Hijpo wrote: »
    How long before they bring in a peddle tax?


    Or a spelling tacks? :)


  • #19
    Iwannahurl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    nelly17 wrote: »
    No its for generating Revenue



    From people using motor vehicles.


  • #20
    ejmaztec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Spook_ie wrote: »
    One and only contribution to this thread....

    Because it comes from a central fund and Road Fund License is paid into the central fund, it does go towards paying for roads, as well as hospitals, schools, bail outs etc.

    Motorist paying €1000 income tax + €500 RFL

    Cyclist paying €1000 income tax

    Net gain to central fund €500


    Edit

    Not to mention the extra tax paid for the fuel to actually use it! which also goes into the central fund, so cyclists get off our ****ing roads and stick to the footpaths you lawbreaking criminals

    Motor Tax.


  • #21
    Hijpo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,471 ✭✭✭Hijpo


    Iwannahurl wrote: »


    Or a spelling tacks? :)

    Oh no iwanttohurl is a spelling nazi


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  • #22
    ThreeLineWhip
    Closed Accounts Posts: 473 ✭✭ThreeLineWhip


    AH regulars may not be aware of IWH's agenda.


  • #23
    Iwannahurl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    AGENDA:

    1. -
    2. -
    3. -
    4. -
    5. AOB


  • #24
    smash
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    stoneill wrote: »
    There is NO SUCH THING AS ROAD TAX.

    There used to be. That's why people still get confused.


  • #25
    Please Kill Me
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,311 ✭✭✭Please Kill Me


    Iwannahurl wrote: »
    Motorists creating more wear and tear on roads: €? Who cares? The roads are there for the motorist! :rolleyes:
    Motorists producing more CO2 and particulate emissions: €? And??
    Motorists causing more road fatalities and injuries: €? Can't deny this really.
    Motorists creating larger burden on health services: €? I would have thought that would be smokers/the elderly??
    Proliferation of expensive infrastructure promoting car dependence and leading to adverse population health outcomes: €? If there was a better public transport infrastructure, people wouldn't NEED to use their cars more.

    As above. The reality is (for me anyway) when cyclists pay costs/taxes the same as other road users, I'll have more respect for the mobile roadblocks.


  • #26
    Hijpo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,471 ✭✭✭Hijpo


    Please Kill Me wrote: »
    As above. The reality is (for me anyway) when cyclists pay costs/taxes the same as other road users, I'll have more respect for the mobile roadblocks.

    perhaps a 30% levy applied to cycling accessories would do the job.


  • #27
    Iwannahurl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    Please Kill Me wrote: »
    The roads are there for the motorist! The reality is (for me anyway) when cyclists pay costs/taxes the same as other road users, I'll have more respect for the mobile roadblocks.



    Great, more quotable quotes to add to my collection.

    Keep 'em coming!


  • #28
    Iwannahurl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    Hijpo wrote: »
    perhaps a 30% levy applied to cycling accessories would do the job.



    There's already a 21%, er, "safety tax".

    http://debates.oireachtas.ie/dail/2011/10/25/00079.asp

    Not enough?


  • #29
    dearg lady
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭dearg lady


    pedestrians shouldn't be allowed cross the roads, they should be trapped on a block forever unless they buy a car


  • #30
    corktina
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,730 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    Hijpo wrote: »
    Oh no iwanttohurl is a spelling nazi

    spelling Nazi surely...


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  • #31
    Cienciano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,208 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Great thread OP, this is going to eliminate all hatred towards cyclists from motorists


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