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Are bus drivers obliged to help passengers load their luggage?

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  • #32
    aujopimur
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    I remember when the conductor would haul baggage, bicycles, boxes of live chickens and all sorts of goods up the ladder at the back of the bus and onto the roof.
    One particular guy was permanetly drunk on duty and would provide entertaining moments as he went up and down the ladder.


  • #33
    AlekSmart
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    aujopimur wrote: »
    I remember when the conductor would haul baggage, bicycles, boxes of live chickens and all sorts of goods up the ladder at the back of the bus and onto the roof.
    One particular guy was permanetly drunk on duty and would provide entertaining moments as he went up and down the ladder.

    Gosh quite a picture alright.....I reckon the Presidents Cheque is next on the agenda !!

    But,you are correct as this was an integral part of the Provincial Bus Conductor's duties.....however,the arrival of the One Man Bus changed all of this,as did the arrival of universal Motor Car usage !


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • #34
    Victor
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    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    Think of the children!!!

    That of course is the problem, some muppet will always **** it up for everyone by dropping hot coffee over another passenger.
    Seems odd though, it's no issue in planes, trains, cars, why buses?

    On a plane, you are served coffee at your seat, not so on a bus. On a train, you are served at your seat or given a proper carrier. In a car, you are served coffee before you move - one hopes.

    As regards bus drivers having their own coffee, while there is the risk of spilling it on themselves and crashing, they are unlikely to spill it on someone else.


  • #35
    oisindoyle
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    parsi wrote: »
    I'd be of the view that if you can't manage your baggage then either hire a porter or leave some at home.
    `
    Totally agree.
    I don't expect a taxi driver to lift my bags

    But that's my point ,people DO expect taxi drivers to lift THEIR bags .Many many a passenger just drops their bags/luggage at the booth get into the car and expect the driver to haul it in ,regardless of how heavy it is !


  • #36
    Wishbone Ash
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    AlekSmart wrote: »
    Individuals using a Private Bus or Coach are more compliant and receptive to instructions and requests from the Driver
    ....although many can be quite unreceptive to simple requests such as "please take a seat" or annoyed when not permitted to be dropped off at an unofficial stop.
    AlekSmart wrote:
    I can guarantee readers that every Busdriver posting here has experience of checking their vehicle after a run,and finding half eaten,sometimes partially digested food stuffed between seat cushions or the sticky remainder of spilt Dutch Gold all over the floor
    Indeed,...and on one memorable occasion I discovered that a passenger had taken a dump on the rear seat. :eek:
    Mrs OBumble wrote: »
    I agree for buses.

    But what about an elderly / sick person catching a taxi to a hospital appointment or hospice - or a a severly disabled kid going to/from school by taxi?
    I'm open to correction but aren't special needs children obliged to have a 'helper' when travelling by taxi?

    An elderly person going to a hospital appointment would be unlikely to have heavy baggage unlike a female passenger going/returning from a 2 week holiday.


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  • #37
    Cookie_Monster
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    Victor wrote: »
    On a train, you are served at your seat or given a proper carrier.

    just yesterday I had a lovely bowl of chowder and a coffee on a train and was able to walk the whole way from the snack car back to my seat with it... (didn't even spill it ;))


  • #38
    trellheim
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    I had cause to visit Reading UK via Heathrow's Aircoach service a few times in the last few weeks. On this service, you are curtly informed to leave your luggage by the side of the coach, for the driver to load it. No snags but a surprising change.


  • #39
    parsi
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    The inconsistency across providers doesn't help even though I suppose it could be seen as a marketing point (if providers were offering competing services).


  • #40
    corktina
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    trellheim wrote: »
    I had cause to visit Reading UK via Heathrow's Aircoach service a few times in the last few weeks. On this service, you are curtly informed to leave your luggage by the side of the coach, for the driver to load it. No snags but a surprising change.
    i don't know about curt, it's a handy service that I use quite often. Only bad experiance I had was with one driver falling out with a car full of young asians in the bus lane in LHR and threatening to take them all on!( I used to be in the effing Marines mate, you lot don't scare me!)the air was somewhat blue, and I found it quite funny (but wouldnt have if I had had kids with me...). They do always help with the luggage and have a checker (at Reading) to look after the tickets whilst the driver does the bags.


  • #41
    AlekSmart
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    corktina wrote: »
    i don't know about curt, it's a handy service that I use quite often. Only bad experiance I had was with one driver falling out with a car full of young asians in the bus lane in LHR and threatening to take them all on!( I used to be in the effing Marines mate, you lot don't scare me!)the air was somewhat blue, and I found it quite funny (but wouldnt have if I had had kids with me...). They do always help with the luggage and have a checker (at Reading) to look after the tickets whilst the driver does the bags.

    You can have the same experience here if the resources are provided......extra staff member to handle the extra work....:rolleyes:


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



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  • #42
    corktina
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    AlekSmart wrote: »
    You can have the same experience here if the resources are provided......extra staff member to handle the extra work....:rolleyes:

    i'd prefer a cheaper ticket tbh


  • #43
    devnull
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    Aircoach generally will help you with your luggage depending on the driver, from what I've seen most drivers will help you but you'll get some who will not lift anything or only the lighter cases. At the airport stops and sometimes at the Cork route stops either end, they'll have a customer care guy who will do that whilst the drivers board the passengers.

    The hot drinks restriction is pretty common to me, they always restrict this on most companies and it's not just an Irish think either. Also most ban hot food as well.


  • #44
    Capt'n Midnight
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    Victor wrote: »
    On a plane, you are served coffee at your seat, not so on a bus. On a train, you are served at your seat or given a proper carrier. In a car, you are served coffee before you move - one hopes.
    Planes and trains have tables and a lack of potholes and sudden turns and other changes in acceleration


  • #45
    kerry4sam
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    Victor wrote: »
    On a plane, you are served coffee at your seat, not so on a bus. On a train, you are served at your seat or given a proper carrier. In a car, you are served coffee before you move - one hopes.

    As regards bus drivers having their own coffee, while there is the risk of spilling it on themselves and crashing, they are unlikely to spill it on someone else.

    I have been on buses where:
    ~ A hostess served hot & cold beverages and snacks to your seat any time you like for duration of journey (Glasgow -> Aberdeen).

    Also, another example:
    ~ Lithuania had a beverage machine on the bus where serve yourself hot beverages any time and as often as you like for duration of bus trip (Vilnius -> Riga). This bus also had on-board camera; wi-fi; socket for laptop; mini-tv on seat in-front of yours with movies, music, internet, local info for viewing (also provided headphones); aswell as reclinable seats.

    No such service / facility as yet here in Ireland for long bus journeys. Even if they had on-board cameras, they may be able to allow customers carry on hot beverages.


  • #46
    AlekSmart
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    kerry4sam wrote: »

    No such service / facility as yet here in Ireland for long bus journeys. Even if they had on-board cameras, they may be able to allow customers carry on hot beverages.

    Oddly enough,the elder lemons in C&T will fondly remember the on-board hostess service provided on the Dublin-Limerick service 12 over 20 years ago now....

    Tried and found to be somewhat superfluous I think,plus issues with the on-board equipment eventually led to it's abandonment.

    So,yes this facility was here before,but as yet I cannot see much demand today, unless passengers are prepared to pay a premium for it ?


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • #47
    Mrs OBumble
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    corktina wrote: »
    luggage for a hospital appointment or to go to school? :eek:

    If it's going to be a few days/weeks in hospital, then most people have a bag. People heading to a hospice usually have an even bigger one!

    And disabled kids may have changes of clothes etc to take.


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