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Donegal County Council To Purchase 5 Bedroom House Worth €230000 For Traveller Family

  • 11-02-2013 11:46AM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 515 ✭✭✭martic


    Lets hope they have good insurance out on it.


    http://www.highlandradio.com/2013/02/11/arson-attack-at-controversial-ballyshannon-house/
    There has been a suspected arson attack at a controversial house in Ballyshannon.
    Members of the fire service were called to the scene of a house fire in the Parkhill area shortly before 3am this morning.
    The house in question has been the root of much controversy in the town, as Donegal County Council recently purchased it at a price of €230,000 for the purposes of social housing.
    The five bedroom house in the upmarket Parkhill area was completely gutted in the fire which broke out at 3am this morning.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 515 ✭✭✭martic


    Oh no you di-hint.

    Sure it's a Monday :D


  • Posts: 53,068 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I think there's a thread on this somewhere already. Give me a minute.

    Edit: It's locked so I'll reopen this one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭zenno


    What a waste of a fine house.

    Sure some things were not meant to be. Was it anywhere near buncrana ? That's a nice spot, i used to live there many years ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    I hope the council compensate the family for the stress of this happening to them,maybe give them a six bedroom house?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 515 ✭✭✭martic


    zenno wrote: »
    Was it anywhere near buncrana ?

    Over an hour away on the other side of the county


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,442 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Not a bad price for a 5 bedroomed house. We really are screwed in dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,002 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    This particular destructive incident is as suspicious as the Accquisition of the property in the first-place was,with it's "special permission from The Department to overspend" hoo-hah.

    It will be most interesting to see if Donegal County Council will emerge from this financially unscathed

    Doubtless The Gardaí will be rounding up members of Donegal County Council now to get them to account for their movements.... :rolleyes:

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/i-am-not-a-bigot-says-councillor-in-storm-over-230000-luxury-house-for-travellers-28960199.html

    http://www.donegaldemocrat.ie/news/local/councillors-racist-attitude-quot-to-travellers-slammed-1-1997024


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    Grayson wrote: »
    Not a bad price for a 5 bedroomed house.
    What getting it bought for you by the state at a cost to you of €0?

    Yes that's a pretty good deal alright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭not yet


    I'm Next,I'm next....

    Please mister nice council offcial, I have worked for 30 years and paid all my taxes, I am in that horrible negitive equity and want a new house....how am I fixed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    Family given social housing! wow big deal!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    Cúnts are taking the piss big time. They should get the same houses as the rest of us.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    charlemont wrote: »
    Cúnts are taking the piss big time. They should get the same houses as the rest of us.

    So everyone in social housing now is a cúnt?:mad:
    That covers a significant part of the population, was everyone who was raised in social housing a cúnt too?:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭omahaid


    So everyone in social housing now is a cúnt?:mad:
    That covers a significant part of the population, was everyone who was raised in social housing a cúnt too?:confused:

    I didn't read charlemonts post that way at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    This house was bought for €26,000 more than the councils limit. Council house should be restricted to 3 bed houses. If you have more children and this is too small for you family, go buy your own house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,002 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    Family given social housing! wow big deal!!

    Ah..But...but...bu...b...as you well know WC,this is no ordinary "Family GIVEN Social Housing" issue in the way you would wish us all to accept.

    The entire "Social Housing" concept is widely discussed,on Boards and elsewhere,as are the more specific elements around this case.

    I've no problem stating that YES,for a Local Authority to be given special authority for overspending in any specific case of this nature is a "Big Deal",particularly when such authorizations do not manifest themselves in the broader Social context.

    However,lets suspend the rush to judgement until further facts concerning the destruction of this Publically Owned asset are available.

    The fire may,after all,have been accidental ?


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    Family given social housing! wow big deal!!


    It is when it's a five bedroom house worth €230k in fairness!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,002 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    omahaid wrote: »
    I didn't read charlemonts post that way at all.

    I'd venture that quite a few would'nt read it "that way" either.

    I find it an oddly narrow minded way of interpreting the post.

    The intent appears to revolve around making those who have issues with this particular housing policy appear to be against the greater mass of society also....does'nt wash with me though. ;)


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭Death and Taxes


    AlekSmart wrote: »
    I'd venture that quite a few would'nt read it "that way" either.

    I find it an oddly narrow minded way of interpreting the post.

    The intent appears to revolve around making those who have issues with this particular housing policy appear to be against the greater mass of society also....does'nt wash with me though. ;)

    the story is about social housing, and he refferred to family in reciept of it as cúnts, so it seems obvious the he feels that people who avail of social housing are cúnts.
    I cant see what else he could have meant.:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭omahaid


    the story is about social housing, and he refferred to family in reciept of it as cúts, so it seems obvious the he feels that people who avail of social housing are cúnts.
    I cant see what else he could have meant.:confused:

    WTF? I don't know where you're pulling this from.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm



    the story is about social housing, and he refferred to family in reciept of it as cúts, so it seems obvious the he feels that people who avail of social housing are cúnts.
    I cant see what else he could have meant.:confused:


    The story is less about social housing and more about a €230k house that was earmarked to be given to a traveller family who don't travel.

    Calling a traveller family cùnts was a bit OTT I grant you, but I personally don't think it's fair to blame a traveller family for the moron councillors in Donegal CC who approved the purchase of €230k on one house for social housing purposes. That's a crazy amount of money to be spending on one house for social housing.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,513 ✭✭✭donalg1


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    The story is less about social housing and more about a €230k house that was earmarked to be given to a traveller family who don't travel.

    Calling a traveller family cùnts was a bit OTT I grant you, but I personally don't think it's fair to blame a traveller family for the moron councillors in Donegal CC who approved the purchase of €230k on one house for social housing purposes. That's a crazy amount of money to be spending on one house for social housing.

    Yeah you are right they could have gotten a one bed for much less:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,765 ✭✭✭flutered


    omahaid wrote: »
    I didn't read charlemonts post that way at all.
    neither do i.


  • Posts: 3,918 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    donalg1 wrote: »
    Yeah you are right they could have gotten a one bed for much less:rolleyes:

    Put these lovely people in a one bed and we'll probably have an apartment block going up in smoke.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    donalg1 wrote: »

    Yeah you are right they could have gotten a one bed for much less:rolleyes:


    As another poster already pointed out-

    Boombastic wrote: »
    This house was bought for €26,000 more than the councils limit. Council house should be restricted to 3 bed houses. If you have more children and this is too small for you family, go buy your own house.


    And there are plenty of five bedroom houses dotted around the country that can be bought for a lot less than a quarter of a million euro.

    You'd imagine the people for whom the house was intended wouldn't have a problem with relocating to another part of the country to avail of cheaper social housing.


  • Posts: 3,918 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    And there are plenty of five bedroom houses dotted around the country that can be bought for a lot less than a quarter of a million euro.

    You'd imagine the people for whom the house was intended wouldn't have a problem with relocating to another part of the country to avail of cheaper social housing.

    Ah here, it's not like these people are some sort of travelers who wou...oh wait.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,002 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    The story is less about social housing and more about a €230k house that was earmarked to be given to a traveller family who don't travel.

    Calling a traveller family cùnts was a bit OTT I grant you, but I personally don't think it's fair to blame a traveller family for the moron councillors in Donegal CC who approved the purchase of €230k on one house for social housing purposes. That's a crazy amount of money to be spending on one house for social housing.

    I saw the cnutts reference as being directed at the human bit-players in the Tube video,the REAL stars being the unfortunate horses.

    In this particular instance I think it is a somewhat reserved and tame description for them.

    I would agree that this "Special" provision of €230,000 remains worthy of discussion,along however, with the question of exactly what amount of such provision can be realistically afforded any family of 13.


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Posts: 3,918 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    AlekSmart wrote: »
    with the question of exactly what amount of such provision can be realistically afforded any family of 13.

    THIS would be my first port of call. Followed by THIS.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,002 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    the story is about social housing, and he refferred to family in reciept of it as cúnts, so it seems obvious the he feels that people who avail of social housing are cúnts.
    I cant see what else he could have meant.:confused:

    I demur at this "seems obvious" bit.

    Charlemont's inclusion of a rather graphic photo,kinda removed any "confusion" I might have felt as to the intended target of the cnuts reference.

    But it's all about perception I suppose ?


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭michael.dublin


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    The story is less about social housing and more about a €230k house that was earmarked to be given to a traveller family who don't travel.


    today’s so called traveller, are the most settled EVER,
    And most of them (not all) have never been on the road.
    Today’s so called, traveller, are the most settled EVER, and most of them (not all) have never been on the road


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic



    Then was the last time, someone acturly did see traveller's, going around the country, and NOT liveing in houses.....
    Today’s so called traveller, are the most settled EVER, and most of them (not all) have never been on the road.

    Some go on their 'summer tours'


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