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Farming Chit Chat

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  • #9032
    blue5000
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,858 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    f140 wrote: »
    anyone have grown arable silage in the past? i have fodder beat sat in a field for the past two years and was going to put in arable silage this year and cut it with the second cut and into the pit. thing is I have never set this before so unsure how much seed/ fert sprays and fert to use. any help? does the grass come nice after cutting for silage

    Yeah have done it in the past, used oats and peas, should be cut after 12weeks growth when peas are in flower and grain is about milky ripe. Seeding rate is about 8 stone per acre. Sow the grain/peas first then shake the grass seed after and roll it in.

    Fert depends on soil test I suppose. We never sprayed ours, except roundup before ploughing.

    Silage won't be huge quality 65dmd ish. And as already said if it lodges mow it immediately. Try wilt it if you get the weather:D

    Peas will bring up the protein, but are prone to lodging and are full of water. Can be better to leave them out and just go with oats/barley.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #9033
    sea12
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    td5man wrote: »
    Its great when you get something else done, other than putting food in one end of an animal and dealing with it when it comes out the other. :(

    Very true. !!


  • #9034
    DMAXMAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭DMAXMAN


    f140 wrote: »
    anyone have grown arable silage in the past? i have fodder beat sat in a field for the past two years and was going to put in arable silage this year and cut it with the second cut and into the pit. thing is I have never set this before so unsure how much seed/ fert sprays and fert to use. any help? does the grass come nice after cutting for silage
    have grown it a couple of times in the past. will give you a fair yield of fair quality silage, some points i have learned from my own experience and watching others;1give it about 30 units n to kickstart the cereal element in a pea/cereal mix.2needs protection against bydv so at least an aphicide, but you need to watch for frit fly in grass seed and if you get any use dursban to control, will also do the aphids.3watch for mildew in the cereal,will need a spray to control if it gets bad.4 if it lodges cut it that day regardless of the stage of growth as it will kill grass seeds instantly.5 it is bloody hard to preserve with the peas in it as protein is high, have found that very high rate molasses works well(6 gals per ton).6 great grass after with no need for nitrogen as the peas leave a nice bit behind.


  • #9035
    keep going
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    f140 wrote: »
    anyone have grown arable silage in the past? i have fodder beat sat in a field for the past two years and was going to put in arable silage this year and cut it with the second cut and into the pit. thing is I have never set this before so unsure how much seed/ fert sprays and fert to use. any help? does the grass come nice after cutting for silage

    have grown different types over the years with reseeding and at this stage i only use barley on its own.i think you are taking a little extra risk with your reseeding by putting in peas/vetchs or what ever.the method i use is to scater barley(usually from a mill) with the manure spreader and get a one pass to harrow it in and set the grass seed.3bags of 18 6 12 at seeding and 1 to 2 bags of can at 5 to 6 weeks.also spray at this time.get 10+bales to the acre.it dosent cost that much extra(the price of the barley seed)and allows get silage off a field and free up another field.feed it in oct ,nov with grass and reckon its a super feed that time of year and you will get more out of your grass


  • #9036
    delaval
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    bob charles wrote: »
    great start to the week, all animals fed and watered by lunch time :) bring on the auld enemy!!!
    Mil;ked this am at 4.30 so we could do afternoon milking at 1.30 to watch match. Awful bad result we weren't at the races pity I expected them to win after last year:mad::mad:


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  • #9037
    rancher
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    delaval wrote: »
    Mil;ked this am at 4.30 so we could do afternoon milking at 1.30 to watch match. Awful bad result we weren't at the races pity I expected them to win after last year:mad::mad:
    And but for O'Gara they would have had zero, they'll be a washout without him. pity he wasn't on the whole match...probably not fit enough


  • #9038
    f140
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 875 ✭✭✭f140


    keep going wrote: »
    have grown different types over the years with reseeding and at this stage i only use barley on its own.i think you are taking a little extra risk with your reseeding by putting in peas/vetchs or what ever.the method i use is to scater barley(usually from a mill) with the manure spreader and get a one pass to harrow it in and set the grass seed.3bags of 18 6 12 at seeding and 1 to 2 bags of can at 5 to 6 weeks.also spray at this time.get 10+bales to the acre.it dosent cost that much extra(the price of the barley seed)and allows get silage off a field and free up another field.feed it in oct ,nov with grass and reckon its a super feed that time of year and you will get more out of your grass

    yes its just barley seed i was going to do. can this be done just with the spinner or do i need to get a one pass. i have my own kuhn powerharrow but no one pass


  • #9039
    bob charles
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    rancher wrote: »
    And but for O'Gara they would have had zero, they'll be a washout without him. pity he wasn't on the whole match...probably not fit enough

    Are you serious? great player in his day, but come on


  • #9040
    blue5000
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    f140 wrote: »
    yes its just barley seed i was going to do. can this be done just with the spinner or do i need to get a one pass. i have my own kuhn powerharrow but no one pass

    You can shake the barley with a vicon, then power harrow it in. Then go with the grass seed in the vicon and just roll it after that. Don't go too heavy with the barley, 5 or 6 st to the acre is enough, top dress it with CAN when the barley has 2 leaves up to help it tiller. How many acres are you doing?

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • #9041
    Good loser
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    rancher wrote: »
    And but for O'Gara they would have had zero, they'll be a washout without him. pity he wasn't on the whole match...probably not fit enough

    I thought he was hopeless apart from the two scores. Doesn't deserve a start the next day.


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  • #9042
    delaval
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    rancher wrote: »
    And but for O'Gara they would have had zero, they'll be a washout without him. pity he wasn't on the whole match...probably not fit enough
    Rancher, you take and give some punishment re IFA and I agree with some of it, but you know phuck all about rugby:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


  • #9043
    jomoloney
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    bob charles wrote: »
    Are you serious? great player in his day, but come on
    Good loser wrote: »
    I thought he was hopeless apart from the two scores. Doesn't deserve a start the next day.

    he doesn't but if sexton is out who will start?

    rog doc & bod certainly nearing the end , healey will be lucky to escape without a ban very poor discipline to day , but no excuses beaten by a far better team


  • #9044
    gill1983
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 ✭gill1983


    Hi il apologise. In advance if I'm posting in the wrong section, but if anyone of u could Help me out I'm looking for bout 100 kg of brewery Grade barley around dublin/kildare area if anyone could Help me out it would Be much appreciated. As iv been looking for a while,


  • #9045
    hugo29
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    jomoloney wrote: »
    he doesn't but if sexton is out who will start?

    rog doc & bod certainly nearing the end , healey will be lucky to escape without a ban very poor discipline to day , but no excuses beaten by a far better team

    Have to agree best team won today,


  • #9046
    rancher
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,142 ✭✭✭rancher


    delaval wrote: »
    Rancher, you take and give some punishment re IFA and I agree with some of it, but you know phuck all about rugby:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

    Well I don't like sexton any way..... one good match and then off form for three matches.
    That team don't seem able to push through for tries and are over dependent on kickers .....then when the kicker is off form...


  • #9047
    wesleysniper38
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 423 ✭✭wesleysniper38


    http://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/mother-had-to-kick-urban-fox-to-stop-it-dragging-her-baby-out-of-the-house-29060919.html

    As I keep saying.....where these vermin are concerned you cannot underestimate what they are capable of.


  • #9048
    reilig
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    wesleysniper38 wrote: »
    http://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/mother-had-to-kick-urban-fox-to-stop-it-dragging-her-baby-out-of-the-house-29060919.html

    As I keep saying.....where these vermin are concerned you cannot underestimate what they are capable of.

    Serious problem allright. Population has boomed in cities where there is an ample supply of food for them that they don't have to hunt for. Serious boom in rural populations in recent years also.

    However, I cannot understand how one would get into a house??


  • #9049
    bbam
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    reilig wrote: »

    However, I cannot understand how one would get into a house??

    The back door had been left open..
    I dont understand that either.. in this weather why does someone leave their back door open unattended...

    A big problem is people feeding the damn foxes, I know three people feeding them regularly, just so they can see nature up close in their garden, two in build up areas.


  • #9050
    tomo75
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    I know in out neck of the woods they would be fed with shotgun pellets....


  • #9051
    whelan1
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    bbam wrote: »
    The back door had been left open..
    I dont understand that either.. in this weather why does someone leave their back door open unattended...

    A big problem is people feeding the damn foxes, I know three people feeding them regularly, just so they can see nature up close in their garden, two in build up areas.
    well in this house i have often come back home to find the door wide open, other members of my family seem to find it hard to close the door , i am always giving out that mice or the stupid cats, hens, turkeys will get in


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  • #9052
    whelan1
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    we scanned the angus herd in late september there where 3or 4 not in calf, i was insisting we get rid of them so we wouldnt have to feed them, my da said to keep them til after the end of the tax year, lucky we did, 2 of them are springing now:eek:


  • #9053
    lakill Farm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭lakill Farm


    Hi, a lad gave me a bit of that CTC powder you can mix with the milk, not the stuff you put on the meal.

    Is the soluable CTC legal in the south? and where can i get it?


  • #9054
    bbam
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    whelan1 wrote: »
    well in this house i have often come back home to find the door wide open, other members of my family seem to find it hard to close the door , i am always giving out that mice or the stupid cats, hens, turkeys will get in

    In fairness that happens here too... but in a city like London people dont usually go about with their doors open... I have to wonder was this woman in the habbit of feeding the fox, possibly inside ?


  • #9055
    naughto
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,413 ✭✭✭naughto


    had monster of a bull calf yesterday.went in to watch the ireland game afterwards lord god but iam one sick man to day.will put up a pic if ican find the camera


  • #9056
    Username John
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    naughto wrote: »
    had monster of a bull calf yesterday.went in to watch the ireland game afterwards lord god but iam one sick man to day.will put up a pic if ican find the camera

    ha ha - I assume you mean a pic of the calf, or do you mean a pic of youself in your sick state? :D


  • #9057
    Username John
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Username John


    Had to take a nice ewe into the knackers this morning... sickening...
    She prolapsed on Friday, and I had put her back together, but obviously didn't do as good a job as I should have... Annoyed with myself :( :mad:


  • #9058
    naughto
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,413 ✭✭✭naughto


    Username John wrote: »
    ha ha - I assume you mean a pic of the calf, or do you mean a pic of youself in your sick state? :D
    no one wants to see me in sick state have to and find my car now parked it some place in town yesterday


  • #9059
    bob charles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    lakill Farm wrote: »
    Hi, a lad gave me a bit of that CTC powder you can mix with the milk, not the stuff you put on the meal.

    Is the soluable CTC legal in the south? and where can i get it?

    is it coming in a liquid form or what? sure its just noraml CTC powder mixed with milk. AFAIK only powder or granules licensed in the Republic


  • #9060
    Timmaay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    whelan1 wrote: »
    we scanned the angus herd in late september there where 3or 4 not in calf, i was insisting we get rid of them so we wouldnt have to feed them, my da said to keep them til after the end of the tax year, lucky we did, 2 of them are springing now:eek:

    Hmm does that happen often? (ie the scanner getting it wrong). If they are springing now they should have been well on their way at the end of sept! When you get the likes of that its probably worth getting the vet etc to double check if you have him out anyways afterwards.


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  • #9061
    whelan1
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    Timmaay wrote: »
    Hmm does that happen often? (ie the scanner getting it wrong). If they are springing now they should have been well on their way at the end of sept! When you get the likes of that its probably worth getting the vet etc to double check if you have him out anyways afterwards.
    last year i sold a few culls to a dealer out of the yard, these where scanned not in calf and 4 or 5 months later they calved in new mans place, with fr calves..... my dad was saying the same but i said sure if the scanning man has said they are not in calf, they shouldnt be in calf:confused::confused: a pedigree calf would be a big loss had we estrumated them


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