Double Jobbers Out!

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 11-02-2013 09:59AM #1

On the way into work today I was behind a taxi and noticed a sticker on his rear window "DOUBLE JOBBERS OUT!".

I guess he is protesting about taxi drivers working a second job. I wonder does he care if people work double jobs in other industries.

What's the big deal exactly? If somebody wants to work a second job then let them, they are more than likely ambitious and hard working individuals and have invested in their taxi business.

This mentality is unreal.

Turtyturd · 11-02-2013 10:03AM

If they weren't crying about that they would be crying about something else.

HondaSami · 11-02-2013 10:04AM

It depends if tax is paid or if it's cash in hand.

jeni · 11-02-2013 10:06AM

Yeah was asking hubster bout the green stickers on there doors, n supossed to mean they are full time taxi drivers, so you know the difference

CramCycle · 11-02-2013 10:09AM

I presume it was a really bad attempt to have a go at two or more people illegally using the one taxi license, therefore keeping a plate on the road almost 24 hours a day, leading to an even more ridiculous level of competition.

If that was his intention though, I'd recommend that he take the time to become more articulate with his phrasing to get his point across. I would have thought the same thing as you, so maybe that is what he was trying to say.

Hobbes · 11-02-2013 10:10AM

Juliana Wrong Self-satisfaction wrote: »

I wonder does he care if people work double jobs in other industries.

Imagine you are working in another industry and your boss says they are going to cut your wages on Thursday-Sunday (assuming you work 7 days a week), because there are loads of other people who will work during that time. Now the money you get is less then what you can live on, but for the others they already have a secure full time job and this is just extra cash for them.

Although if I recall correctly they changed the tax system for taxi drivers to make it less of a profit for part timers (a few years back).

Also some companies stopped paying certain benefits for people with taxi plates (medical IIRC).

Grayson · 11-02-2013 10:17AM

jeni wrote: »

Yeah was asking hubster bout the green stickers on there doors, n supossed to mean they are full time taxi drivers, so you know the difference

If only there was a cheap and easy way to get a green sticker.

snubbleste · 11-02-2013 10:18AM

It's because people who have full-time careers (ie teachers) are also driving taxis as second jobs for extra income.

squod · 11-02-2013 10:20AM

Hobbes wrote: »

the tax system for taxi drivers

Made me laugh........

frankosw · 11-02-2013 10:25AM

snubbleste wrote: »

It's because people who have full-time careers (ie teachers) are also driving taxis as second jobs for extra income.

Teachers driving taxis now?

Thats a new one

Corkbah · 11-02-2013 10:25AM

Juliana Wrong Self-satisfaction wrote: »

On the way into work today I was behind a taxi and noticed a sticker on his rear window "DOUBLE JOBBERS OUT!".

I guess he is protesting about taxi drivers working a second job. I wonder does he care if people work double jobs in other industries.

What's the big deal exactly? If somebody wants to work a second job then let them, they are more than likely ambitious and hard working individuals and have invested in their taxi business.

This mentality is unreal.

this was a big issue a number of years ago ... taxi licences cost about €80K ... now they are €5K so anyone who wants to earn a little extra on the side is signing themselves up.

Yes, I agree that if someone wants to do a second job they should be allowed - as long as they are tax compliant and everything is above board.

I can also understand it from the Taxi driver point ....the market is saturated and because there is huge competition prices are dropping to a level where the person with a second income can supplement his lifestyle but the full-time taxi driver can't (unless he/she tries to find another job ...which in this economic climate is very difficult).

its a job with no perceived skills ...lets face it ...anyone with a licence can drive around and anyone with a sat nav can find a street address, other markets have also been hit with an influx of "weekend warriors" ... photographers, videographers etc .... there's no proper regulation in the industry and the client often does not know what they want or how much they should pay for it, so those with full-time jobs can afford to do the work at very cheap prices (cheaper than a full-time photographer can do them because of overheads)

Lets use the example of a wedding photographer ... he requires lets say he/she charges €2K for wedding photos (which is 8hours of being there on the day, album for the couple and 2 mini albums for parents...of course there are also plenty of meetings with the bride and groom prior to the wedding also ...and then the 3/4/5days of post processing the images afterwards) ...

he/she makes approx €500 profit for his "day" of work. ...he needs at least one wedding a week (approx 50weddings) to make a decent living ...because that €500 has to be spent on equipment, insurance, income tax, union fees, accountants fees, food, bills, transport etc etc

now.... someone doing a mon-friday job earning €500 ...they get into photography and want to earn a bit of extra money at weekends ...so offer their services as a wedding photographer ..but they offer to do the weddings for €1700 cash in hand - they can provide the exact same album and mini albums as the full-time professional, the bride and groom are paying out less so thats more spending money for the honeymoon, the "part-time" photographer makes €200 cash profit for his "day" of work ..so he/she is chuffed.... he/she doesn't have to pay union fees, accountants fees, insurance

.... because they are not regulated the "part-time" photographer gets more and more wedding work ...because he/she is cheaper than a "professional" and can do the same or a similar job, the "full-time" photographer cant compete on price because he simply cant afford to .... and within 12-18months the "part-time" photographer decides to make the move full-time into photography and the circle begins !! ..... he/she must increase their prices to ensure they can survive but then a "part-time" photographer takes the work from them.

Meh !! ... this is after hours .... "they tuk our jobs !!"

Teyla Emmagan · 11-02-2013 10:28AM

Pretty pointless IMO. Realistically you will get into the first taxi that stops and not give a damn about who is driving it or why. As long as they aren't obviously an axe murderer. The taxi drivers just want their little industry all sewn up again. Which was brilliant for them but epically rubbish for the consumer.

snubbleste · 11-02-2013 10:29AM

frankosw wrote: »

Teachers driving taxis now?
Thats a new one

It's been going on for years.

Banjo String · 11-02-2013 10:29AM

Prob having a go at Michael O'Leary OP.

High flying with Ryanair all day, then driving his personal Taxi on the side!

lazygal · 11-02-2013 10:34AM

snubbleste wrote: »

It's because people who have full-time careers (ie teachers) are also driving taxis as second jobs for extra income.

[Citation needed]

11-02-2013 10:38AM

Corkbah wrote: »

.... because they are not regulated the "part-time" photographer gets more and more wedding work ...because he/she is cheaper than a "professional"
and can do the same or a similar job,

Except photography does involve a bit more skill than just point and click, so they won't get much work beyond family/friends who are stuck, especially when it's discovered they're not really that great after all. Meanwhile the professional should/will do a much better job and have a lot more experience

Gumbo · 11-02-2013 10:41AM

jeni wrote: »

Yeah was asking hubster bout the green stickers on there doors, n supossed to mean they are full time taxi drivers, so you know the difference

Green stickers are mandatory on all taxis now, not for full time drivers only. Each car will have to have them at next renewal of NCT yearly.

matchthis · 11-02-2013 10:41AM

What about a taxi driver not doing well enough he gets a part time job somewhere else? Door swings both ways. IMO Simone would do this to keep bills paid and not always by choice

snubbleste · 11-02-2013 10:44AM

lazygal wrote: »

[Citation needed]

Teachers, army personnel, office and factory workers have all taken to driving taxis, according to the National Taxi Drivers Union.
http://www.irishexaminer.com/story/business/qlkfkfsnoj/

lazygal · 11-02-2013 10:50AM

snubbleste wrote: »

Teachers, army personnel, office and factory workers have all taken to driving taxis, according to the National Taxi Drivers Union.
http://www.irishexaminer.com/story/business/qlkfkfsnoj/

That wouldn't be a biased source, coming as it does from a militant union?

Noel Kinsella · 11-02-2013 10:50AM

frankosw wrote: »

Teachers driving taxis now?

Thats a new one

No its not ! And firemen and bus drivers and builders etc etc BUT it is an open market so anyone with the correct plate, licence etc should be able to do it. We all have to remember this is an unskilled job (like cleaning toilets etc) so basically who do taxi drivers think they are ??????

syklops · 11-02-2013 10:52AM

snubbleste wrote: »

Teachers, army personnel, office and factory workers have all taken to driving taxis, according to the National Taxi Drivers Union.
http://www.irishexaminer.com/story/business/qlkfkfsnoj/

I knew a fella who was in the army. His version of the story was that he didnt feel well in the morning and asked to go home sick. In the afternoon he felt better so decided to go out in the taxi on the off chance. He got in hot water when he got a call to pick up at a restaurant and it was his commanding officer.

Teachers, gardai and other civil servants have been driving taxis on the side for years. Its not exactly news.

K.Flyer · 11-02-2013 10:53AM

snubbleste wrote: »

Teachers, army personnel, office and factory workers have all taken to driving taxis, according to the National Taxi Drivers Union.
http://www.irishexaminer.com/story/business/qlkfkfsnoj/

If they are all taking to driving taxis for a second income there must be still some money to be made.
Although I imagine its a bit of a ball breaker sitting on half mile long ranks for ages only to get a 10e fare for all that waiting.

o1s1n · 11-02-2013 10:57AM

snubbleste wrote: »

It's been going on for years.

That's amazing. I know an absolute bucket load of teachers and absolutely none of them are night time taxi drivers.

They must be using those new stealth taxis.

lazygal · 11-02-2013 10:57AM

o1s1n wrote: »

That's amazing. I know an absolute bucket load of teachers and absolutely none of them are night time taxi drivers.

They must be using those new stealth taxis.

Maybe only the obvious non national teachers do it?

Where To · 11-02-2013 10:59AM

It wouldn't bother me if everybody in the country had a taxi licence. Cream always rises.

tatli_lokma · 11-02-2013 10:59AM

o1s1n wrote: »

That's amazing. I know an absolute bucket load of teachers and absolutely none of them are night time taxi drivers.

They must be using those new stealth taxis.

Most of them do it during their long summer holidays, not at night.

Cantona's Collars · 11-02-2013 11:00AM

frankosw wrote: »

Teachers driving taxis now?

Thats a new one

I know a couple that drive hgv's during their holidays.

11-02-2013 11:04AM

snubbleste wrote: »

It's because people who have full-time careers (ie teachers) are also driving taxis as second jobs for extra income.

And if they are and have all the necessary documentation they are perfectly entitled to do it same as anybody who chooses to work an 2nd job in another area to bring in some extra money

o1s1n · 11-02-2013 11:14AM

Little Ted wrote: »

Most of them do it during their long summer holidays, not at night.

Ah right, so when I see a sign on a taxi that says 'doubble jobbers out!' what it in fact means is -

'TEACHERS WHO DRIVE TAXIS DURING THEIR SUMMER HOLIDAYS, OUT!'

And it does not in fact relate to the legion of double jobbers who work during the day and drive taxis at night.

Thanks for the clarification.

johnr1 · 11-02-2013 11:16AM

I drive luxury touring buses during the summer and I've noticed quite a few retired primary teachers coming into the business of late. They have the requisite knowledge of history and geography for the job. They also have a secure income for the year which makes them more competitive.
It's annoying, but the professionals in the industry have other advantages and it's up to us to make our offering better to compete.

This is just stupid pointless whining.

Double Jobbers Out!

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