Feb 9th Protest - will you be joining?

Yitzhak Rabin · 09-02-2013 06:27PM

Sparks43 wrote: »

Quite a sizable crowd in Dublin today

Not too far off the 80k mark

You wouldn't be the best at judging crowd sizes. There was only about 50k out in the whole country.

COYW · 09-02-2013 06:29PM

Sparks43 wrote: »

Quite a sizable crowd in Dublin today

Not too far off the 80k mark

Unions made a mess of it though terrible attitude towards the other groups that were joining in.

Quote of the day from a SIPTU steward to the household charge protesters who were in the middle of the siptu crowds

"Would you ever get to the back where you fucking belong"

The guards said it was 50K in total across all the marches. Nice attitude by the union. I am not surprised that they said such a thing to the household charge protestors. The unions are not on for challenging our government for some reason :rolleyes:.

Sparks43 · 09-02-2013 06:33PM

mikemac1 wrote: »

Which is correct?

You can't hide 60,000 people :eek:

Well all i can go on is what i seen with my own 2 eyes

When i reached college green some of the protesters had reached the end of Nassau st.(Some friends were there and called back to us)

Then i made another call to a lad i knew was going to be towards the back and he hadnt even left lord edward St

Thats a long line of people

rolliepoley · 09-02-2013 06:35PM

So i guess it was all a waste of time then.

St.Spodo · 09-02-2013 06:36PM

Almaviva wrote: »

If there were crowds out, it makes me feel embarrassed to be Irish.
Now if the event were a flop and no sizeable crowds materialised, I would have some renewed confidence in the future of this country and that its citizens might do the right thing for a change and dig themselves out of the mess they made of the previous 10 years.

We've been paying for this mess we never made for the last 5 years.

COYW · 09-02-2013 06:41PM

Sparks43 wrote: »

Well all i can go on is what i seen with my own 2 eyes

When i reached college green some of the protesters had reached the end of Nassau st.(Some friends were there and called back to us)

Then i made another call to a lad i knew was going to be towards the back and he hadnt even left lord edward St

Thats a long line of people

Read the figures from the guards. They are used to crowd management, so I think we can trust their judgement.

Dublin - 25,000
Limerick - 8,000
Sligo - 6,500
Cork - 6,000
Galway - 2,000
Waterford - 2,000

Those figures are from RTE.

Almaviva · 09-02-2013 06:52PM

COYW wrote: »

Read the figures from the guards. They are used to crowd management, so I think we can trust their judgement.

Dublin - 25,000
Limerick - 8,000
Sligo - 6,500
Cork - 6,000
Galway - 2,000
Waterford - 2,000

Those figures are from RTE.

Thats encouraging.

50,000 mix and gatherem marchers protest.
4,500,000 dont.

Insignificant minority can be regarded as cranks.

Some hope for the realism of the Irish people then. At least we arent like the Greeks.

Almaviva · 09-02-2013 06:53PM

St.Spodo wrote: »

We've been paying for this mess we never made for the last 5 years.

And another 5 should see the bulk of the correction made.

The Waltzing Consumer · 09-02-2013 07:07PM

Sparks43 wrote: »

Well all i can go on is what i seen with my own 2 eyes

When i reached college green some of the protesters had reached the end of Nassau st.(Some friends were there and called back to us)

Then i made another call to a lad i knew was going to be towards the back and he hadnt even left lord edward St

Thats a long line of people

You counted everyone then? :P So the Gardai say approx 25,000, but you say 80000.

Official SIPUT report: 80000 at least, seven feet tall they were, arms like tree trunks, their eyes were like steel, cold. Had a shock of hair, red, like the fires of hell.

samsemtex · 09-02-2013 07:09PM

Almaviva wrote: »

And another 5 should see the bulk of the correction made.

Mother of god, reading your posts would be infuriating if it was not so sad. You are one of these people on the "we all went mad bandwagon". Please do tell how we all went mad? As long as deluded people like you believe this nonsense that people "went mad" (buying houses that are appreciating hugely because you are afraid you will never get on the property ladder isnt going mad by the way).

As has been said before: The average Irish person has paid €11,000 for the European banking crisis as opposed to €192 accross the rest of Europe. You just dont seem to be able to comprehend some very simple mathemathics. This country is a no hoper with people like you in it.

In 5 years you will see that this country will still have crippling unemployment, the emigrants will still be emigrated and the domestic economy will not have recovered. I'd love to relish being proved right but i really wont.

Sparks43 · 09-02-2013 07:10PM

The Waltzing Consumer wrote: »

You counted everyone then? :P So the Gardai say approx 25,000, but you say 80000.

Official SIPUT report: 80000 at least, seven feet tall they were, arms like tree trunks, their eyes were like steel, cold. Had a shock of hair, red, like the fires of hell.

Very nice :pac:

But even Rte admitting that when the first people arrived in Merrion Square some hadnt even started

"But its hard to count the figures"

The propaganda is strong in this one

dark crystal · 09-02-2013 07:12PM

If people want to protest and have their voices heard, why all the cynical sneering?

If you don't agree with it, stay home. I don't see why people feel the need to p!ss all over everyone else's desire to protest.

suicide_circus · 09-02-2013 07:13PM

Almaviva wrote: »

Thats encouraging.

50,000 mix and gatherem marchers protest.
4,500,000 dont.

Insignificant minority can be regarded as cranks.

Some hope for the realism of the Irish people then. At least we arent like the Greeks.

Sure they invented gayness

Almaviva · 09-02-2013 07:17PM

dark crystal wrote: »

If people want to protest and have their voices heard, why all the cynical sneering?

If you don't agree with it, stay home. I don't see why people feel the need to p!ss all over everyone else's desire to protest.

OP asks 'will you be joining?', not that this is a thread only for posters in favour of the march. And expressing views on the issue is both reasonable and interesting.

What did you want, a thread with posts listing :
Yes
No
No
No
Yes
No
No
No
No.

Or worse, a thread with just a line of yesses from those going ?

(And the usual spinning(=lying) upwards of attendance figures from the organisers does invite a little sneering).

Phill Ewinn · 09-02-2013 07:25PM

Hope all them people got the bus home. Poor CIE need the extra revenue to pay massive pensions to themselves

The Waltzing Consumer · 09-02-2013 07:25PM

Sparks43 wrote: »

Very nice :pac:

But even Rte admitting that when the first people arrived in Merrion Square some hadnt even started

"But its hard to count the figures"

The propaganda is strong in this one

Yeah, I watched that report, the lady said that because at the time, it was approx 500 people and were mainly stewards and the people organizing the march.

dark crystal · 09-02-2013 07:25PM

Almaviva wrote: »

OP asks 'will you be joining', not that this is a thread only for posters in favour of the march. And expressing views on the issue is both reasonable and interesting.

What this you want, a thread with posts listing :
Yes
No
No
No
Yes
No
No
No
No.

Or worse, a thread with just a line of yesses from those going ?

Of course not. Free speech is a wonderful thing in a democracy.

It's the 'I hope it's a monumental failure' type response I don't get. If you don't want to participate, fine. I just don't see the need to moan about those who do, rubbing your hands in glee at the prospect of the whole country not turning out.
50,000 people felt strongly enough to get off their arses and march today. Will it change anything? Probably not, but at least those people felt they were doing something.

G Power · 09-02-2013 07:31PM

rolliepoley wrote: »

So i guess it was all a waste of time then.

yes it was because the majority of the 4,500,000+ in the country right now couldn't be flipping arsed in joining in and that makes the few thousand that showed up today a complete laughing stock until we get real support from everyone else.

currently there's 1,600,000 people left with less than €50 at the end of the month so where were half of them today??????????????????

if even 1 out of every 10 people cared enough to march today we would have had enough to really shake the government and the ecb and imf up a little but now they've seen the extent of the people willing to protest it's given them the excuse to just carry on doing what they're doing.

The Waltzing Consumer · 09-02-2013 07:35PM

G Power wrote: »

yes it was because the majority of the 4,500,000+ in the country right now couldn't be flipping arsed in joining in and that makes the few thousand that showed up today a complete laughing stock until we get real support from everyone else.

currently there's 1,600,000 people left with less than €50 at the end of the month so where were half of them today??????????????????

if even 1 out of every 10 people cared enough to march today we would have had enough to really shake the government and the ecb and imf up a little but now they've seen the extent of the people willing to protest it's given them the excuse to just carry on doing what they're doing.

It is admirable that you are passionate about it, but not being snide, do you not think that perhaps people are simply not as bad off as you want them to be and this is why the numbers are low.

Do you think it is possible that the people who gave FG/LAB the mandate to govern, that majority of electorate, might actually be happy with how things are going?

Almaviva · 09-02-2013 07:36PM

G Power wrote: »

yes it was because the majority of the 4,500,000+ in the country right now couldn't be flipping arsed in joining in and that makes the few thousand that showed up today a complete laughing stock until we get real support from everyone else.

Maybe they were arsed. But simply didnt agree with it. And made their point by staying away.

G Power · 09-02-2013 07:36PM

Almaviva wrote: »

Thats encouraging.

50,000 mix and gatherem marchers protest.
4,500,000 dont.

Insignificant minority can be regarded as cranks.

Some hope for the realism of the Irish people then. At least we arent like the Greeks.

this is actually a shameful attendance considering 100,000 people showed up to the siptu protest in Nov 2010 against fianna fail and calling for the general election they did their best to avoid to the bitter end.

the shame!!

G Power · 09-02-2013 07:38PM

Almaviva wrote: »

Maybe they were arsed. But simply didnt agree with it. And made their point by staying away.

that'll change a lot :eek:

Almaviva · 09-02-2013 07:38PM

G Power wrote: »

currently there's 1,600,000 people left with less than €50 at the end of the month so where were half of them today??????????????????

At home, thankful that they a fortunate to have paid their bills and still have money left at the end of the month ?

dxhound2005 · 09-02-2013 07:40PM

COYW wrote: »

Farmers and the elderly are top class when it comes to protesting. No other section of society compares to them. I read Tony Blair's autobiography recently and he said straight out that the elderly were the toughest group he had to deal with. He used the word "vicious" to describe them, if I remember correctly.

ICTU claim that over 110,000 attended the marches, guards estimate that it was nearer 50,000. RTE report

The well off elderly are the only ones that I can recall protesting. This was the campaign against pensioner couples with an income of over €1400 a week losing their medical cards. "The elderly" are just out for their own self interest like everyone else and government policies can benefit some of them while disadvantaging others. Like the property tax being based on value helps the elderly with big houses in cheap areas but hits the elderly in places like Foxrock.

Almaviva · 09-02-2013 07:41PM

G Power wrote: »

that'll change a lot :eek:

Why are you assuming they want change ?

G Power · 09-02-2013 07:43PM

The Waltzing Consumer wrote: »

It is admirable that you are passionate about it, but not being snide, do you not think that perhaps people are simply not as bad off as you want them to be and this is why the numbers are low.

Do you think it is possible that the people who gave FG/LAB the mandate to govern, that majority of electorate, might actually be happy with how things are going?

man 1,600,000+ people and rising have less than €50 left at the end of the month after paying their bills!! that's about 1 in 3 people but where were they today?? i'll tell ya where, they were every else but where it mattered to ever have a chance at changing things. all today did is give the crazies fuel to just carry on as normal.

G Power · 09-02-2013 07:44PM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

The well off elderly are the only ones that I can recall protesting. This was the campaign against pensioner couples with an income of over €1400 a week losing their medical cards. "The elderly" are just out for their own self interest like everyone else and government policies can benefit some of them while disadvantaging others. Like the property tax being based on value helps the elderly with big houses in cheap areas but hits the elderly in places like Foxrock.

proof that those who stand together get change. what we showed today is that the nation is completely divided and conquered. that sends the wrong message to those in control

G Power · 09-02-2013 07:46PM

Almaviva wrote: »

At home, thankful that they a fortunate to have paid their bills and still have money left at the end of the month ?

yes and that's exactly where they crazies want them, at home thankful they've got pittance left at the end of the month and so frightened it might be taken away from them they'll just stay quiet and say nothing.

that not living man it's existing and fcuk that for a game of soldiers!!

Almaviva · 09-02-2013 07:48PM

G Power wrote: »

what we showed today is that the nation is completely divided and conquered. that sends the wrong message to those in control

Or that the nation is as good as completely united in recognising the necessity of the changes the government is having to make and supports them despite the pain ?

woodoo · 09-02-2013 07:51PM

tenton wrote: »

90% of those marching are paid by the taxpayer, and want to keep getting paid big amounts of money by the taxpayer.....funded of course by taxes from the private sector and by government borrowing.

How would you know

Feb 9th Protest - will you be joining?

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