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Rant..experience at doctor this week!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72 ✭✭eok56


    starlings wrote: »
    hmmm, course you want to be taken seriously OP, but there's a difference between doctors taking you seriously and their diagnosis that there's nothing seriously wrong with you.

    I crashed my bicycle once, and whacked my chest into the handlebar. It hurt a lot, especially when I took a deep breath to try to calm myself, but I managed to wheel my bike to the nearest hospital so I was glad of that. When the X-Rays came back I had a moment's -ridiculous -disappointment that I hadn't actually broken a bone after all that pain and effort -and the expense. :eek:

    OT - they should really let you keep your X-Rays -for your own records and because they're amaaaazing!

    He didn't examine me to come to the conclusion that there was nothing wrong with me!
    Am I wrong to think that if someone complains of blocked up chest, sweats, dizzyness, generally feeling miserable that they should be examined, the doctor is getting paid to do that afterall!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭COYVB


    eok56 wrote: »
    generally feeling miserable

    If you used those very words to him then he probably did assume you meant mentally


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭cuana


    eok56 wrote: »
    Thanks Cuana, felt so bad tuesday when he wouldn't examine me and when I saw him again this morning I was disgusted with myself to become emotional again!
    In my case he has been my doctor all my life and knows that I don't go running to the doctor with every sniffle!


    You had a concern he should have taken you seriously examined you & if he wasn't overly concerned should have said so & put your mind at ease by reassuring you! A little respect/empathy wouldn't go amiss when your ill


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,826 ✭✭✭DebDynamite


    OP, you should phone the practice manager and explain what happened. They might refund you the second €50 or even half of it, as it was a review consultation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 683 ✭✭✭starlings


    eok56 wrote: »
    He didn't examine me to come to the conclusion that there was nothing wrong with me!
    Am I wrong to think that if someone complains of blocked up chest, sweats, dizzyness, generally feeling miserable that they should be examined, the doctor is getting paid to do that afterall!

    the first part of an examination is talking to the patient to get their report on symptoms, how long they've had them & if they've changed. Just guessing, but I'd say the stethoscope and needles only come out if a red flag is raised by what the patient reports.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 479 ✭✭Janedoe10


    Hope u are feeling better OP .
    U shouldn't have waited so long though to go back the 2nd time . Your gut told u that there was more to your symptoms ..
    No wonder DOC 1 looked worried when he/she saw u again / regardless what had happened it was a misdiagnosis and personal opinions/judgments came into the first consultation .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72 ✭✭eok56


    OP, you should phone the practice manager and explain what happened. They might refund you the second €50 or even half of it, as it was a review consultation.


    I really only came on here to rant and get if out of my system!

    I'm glad it's sorted as I had spent the last few days really suffering and feeling worse because of the way he dismissed me!

    I really feel the "drugs" are doing their job!

    Not going to take it any further now!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72 ✭✭eok56


    Janedoe10 wrote: »
    Hope u are feeling better OP .
    U shouldn't have waited so long though to go back the 2nd time . Your gut told u that there was more to your symptoms ..
    No wonder DOC 1 looked worried when he/she saw u again / regardless what had happened it was a misdiagnosis and personal opinions/judgments came into the first consultation .

    I know as I kept being told all week, but I really didn't want to go back down there,
    He did seem genuinely concerned when he saw me this morning whether that be for mental or physical conditions I don't know.

    He has been my doctor all my life and he has never seen me react like that so no doubt he was concerned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,151 ✭✭✭kupus


    well done op on getting thru it, a lot of people here in AH seem to love their docs a bit too much so doubt you'll get much sympathy from here but its after 5pm and they have all left their government jobs now so you may get different reactions from now on.


    My opinion on irish docs is that they're the laziest most useless inept shower of overpaid parasitic cnuts that Ive ever had the misfortune to come across. get in get out get paid is what theyre all about.
    Even going private theyve managed to fcuk up a recent major procedure on my dad.

    I thank the sun moon and stars, that none of my own health problems in adulthood have ever occured in Ireland. because any time ive had to deal with them here theyre more concerned about talking fcuking golf. numptys.

    heres just two experiences.......
    broken arm have you, no thats just a big bruise. it'll be fine. 2 days later, oh back again its still sore let me take another look at the xray. hmmm yeah its broken I dont know how we missed it 1st time round, talking about rounds i corded a 83 last time round haw haw. oh btw you need a cast. no sh1t sherlock.

    another time
    it looks like you have a case of broken ribs. not much we can do. Rest and dont worry about all the blood you are coughing up. youre young and fit shure doesnt that count for something.
    two days later, well silly me who'd have though a rib could have embedded itself into a lung causing the blood coughs shure at least we know the problem now. oh btw i corded a 79 just the other day Haw Haw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,695 ✭✭✭December2012


    eok56 wrote: »

    I know as I kept being told all week, but I really didn't want to go back down there,
    He did seem genuinely concerned when he saw me this morning whether that be for mental or physical conditions I don't know.

    He has been my doctor all my life and he has never seen me react like that so no doubt he was concerned.

    I think you might be overrating how much GPs would know their patients tendencies off by heart.

    Am I correct that he said your stomach pains were nothing to worry about, and he was right?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 632 ✭✭✭Forest Demon


    kupus wrote: »
    oh btw i corded a 79 just the other day Haw Haw.

    :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    You cant handle the truth!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    :confused:

    It is a golf thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72 ✭✭eok56


    I think you might be overrating how much GPs would know their patients tendencies off by heart.

    Am I correct that he said your stomach pains were nothing to worry about, and he was right?

    He told me they were down to stress/issues going on in my personal life and he gave me a letter to attend a and e with them if they were bothering me!

    Again my issue is that he refused to examine any other symptoms I had.

    It was the pharmacist that pointed out that taking codinex could cause spasms, the doctor had the same information yet mental health issues were his explanation.

    I didn't mean to overrate that GP's know all their patients tendencies just that he would never have seen me acting emotionally before and he did look overly concerned this morning which I am saying is a good thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,695 ✭✭✭December2012


    But in the end..... Did it matter? His suggestion of the cause of the stomach pains is not a firm diagnosis. GPS will never say "this is x".

    Mental health is a huge issue and it would have been negligent for him not to follow this line of enquiry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    I think you're getting worked up over very little op.

    You probably went into the doctors and completely broke down (nothing wrong with that), so when you tried to describe what was wrong it wasn't that clear and the doctor could only see a very distressed patient and just wanted to try treat your emotional state first.

    The second time you went in you were more composed and could articulate better what was wrong with you.

    The doctor could have examined you but for things like colds and infections its just a judgement call and he probably thought you breaking down was a much more serious issue.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,442 Mod ✭✭✭✭XxMCRxBabyxX


    kupus wrote: »
    My opinion on irish docs is that they're the laziest most useless inept shower of overpaid parasitic cnuts that Ive ever had the misfortune to come across. get in get out get paid is what theyre all about.

    I beg to differ, I have had many medical issues over the past few years and, minus one bad GP, my doctors have been fantastic and have looked after me incredibly well despite the many complications involved.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    eok56 wrote: »
    I really feel the "drugs" are doing their job!

    All this talk of pains and emotions
    is getting me down, my love
    And the drugs don't work
    they just make you worse
    but I know I'll see your rants again. :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    kupus wrote: »
    well done op on getting thru it, a lot of people here in AH seem to love their docs a bit too much so doubt you'll get much sympathy from here but its after 5pm and they have all left their government jobs now so you may get different reactions from now on.

    Yup. We all work for the government and love doctors. That's us! You nailed AH to a tee with that insightful quote! :pac:

    :confused:
    B0jangles wrote: »
    It is a golf thing.

    I'm confused that he went back and edited it to read 83 instead of 79. Is it a better jibe with a different score?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,151 ✭✭✭kupus


    DRAMA QUEEN
    :rolleyes:

    I beg to differ, I have had many medical issues over the past few years and, minus one bad GP, my doctors have been fantastic and have looked after me incredibly well despite the many complications involved.

    So have I, involving 3 countries. one country with a world class health system, one country with a decent yet archaic set up (its a developing country), and then the Irish system and as regards the Irish set up I stand by every word I say. you have your view and I have mine.
    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    Yup. We all work for the government and love doctors. That's us! You nailed AH to a tee with that insightful quote! :pac:
    I'm confused that he went back and edited it to read 83 instead of 79. Is it a better jibe with a different score?

    Course it is the doctor would hardly be carding worse scores. Cmon man get with it.:pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭gg2


    Glad to hear your feeling better OP.

    I was ill last year - seriously sore throat and what I'm guessing was swollen glands after 2 days it hit its peak and I literally couldn't eat sleep or speak properly. I'm a martyr- kept saying "ah am grand" went into work and literally broke down as soon as I walked in the door, don't know where it came from just felt so woeful and in so much pain.
    My brother had been in a serious accident some weeks before and was still critical in hospital and my co-workers were standing saying "oh no its your brother isn't it". There I was like a dope shaking my head pointing to my throat trying not to cry!!

    I think its when your rarely ill or generally a hardy person that being really sick is so much harder to deal with.

    Hopefully your doc has this approach to everyone though, including those who desperately need this type of help.... I can understand your frustration with him though and totally understand why you would be upset.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 683 ✭✭✭starlings


    GPS will never say "this is x".

    I thought the whole point of GPS was to tell you where x is. :confused::)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,695 ✭✭✭December2012


    Ideally yes but they will rarely on a first appointment say "it's this". They'll say "it could be this, do that and come back to me if the other"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 984 ✭✭✭ViveLaVie


    gg2 wrote: »

    I think its when your rarely ill or generally a hardy person that being really sick is so much harder to deal with.

    Yeah, all those people with chronic illnesses are grand sure, so much easier for them. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭mardybumbum


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    People still go to doctors?

    Top recession tip- A dentist check up is only 30-40 quid if you want an anti biotic prescription.

    Some dangerous advice there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72 ✭✭eok56


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    I think you're getting worked up over very little op.

    You probably went into the doctors and completely broke down (nothing wrong with that), so when you tried to describe what was wrong it wasn't that clear and the doctor could only see a very distressed patient and just wanted to try treat your emotional state first.

    The second time you went in you were more composed and could articulate better what was wrong with you.

    The doctor could have examined you but for things like colds and infections its just a judgement call and he probably thought you breaking down was a much more serious issue.

    I was twently minutes asking him to check my chest before I broke down when he finally referred to stress/personal life and sneered at me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,858 ✭✭✭homemadecider


    eok56 wrote: »

    I was twently minutes asking him to check my chest before I broke down when he finally referred to stress/personal life and sneered at me!

    In fairness, your lengthy post and overreaction do suggest that the doctor was probably dead right to ask about your mental state.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72 ✭✭eok56


    I came on to rant! and it's more ranting that I am doing, lol!

    Thanks for the feedback and sympathy!

    Time to call it a day!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭Scruffles


    In fairness, your lengthy post and overreaction do suggest that the doctor was probably dead right to ask about your mental state.
    yes,mental health is very complex and stress is a big cause for transforming into physical problems,it was prof sigmund freud who originaly discovered this wasnt it?:confused:

    an aunt of mine in tallaght was recently taken to A&E thinking there was something serious going on with her heart; eg a heart attack,she ended up diagnosed with stress her heart was fine!
    her daughter/a cousin of mine was having headaches a lot and they thought there was something 'serious' wrong with her,it turned out to be headaches caused through stress.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 479 ✭✭Janedoe10


    Stress is used too quick though ! It's dangerous however we have to say there are some GP's that once they get their practice seem to have the same prognosis for everything and don't seem to be keeping up with new medicine practices and approaches ..

    I know a person who has been going to family doc for years he is so old that he has seen 4 generations of her family , always said he was great and he was at one stage but never listened to her when she was complaining about sores in her mouth , she went in one day and a Locum was there instead did not like what he saw and referred her for tests . She is now doing well thanks be to *** but only because of the chemo +radi..
    Always best to question .. U have to .. It's not like the old days when docs were like gods u dare not answer out of turn .


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