Ghosts...

Deleted User wrote: »

I have seen about three ghosts, which was a really surreal experience. Alongside this I've lived in two houses that were haunted, with one that definitely was (I wasn't the only person to witness some of the weird things that happened).

However if you want some examples, here you are:

One night my then-girlfriend and I were watching a movie in my bedroom, when suddenly a speaker on the TV fell to the ground with a thud, then got pulled along the ground a few inches - we could hear it moving across the carpet. You could argue the speaker had fallen for a number of reasons, but there was no reason why it should have been pulled across the floor like it did.

Another night I was in bed with my window open - nobody else was in the house except me. Suddenly the door gets kicked open - my first reaction is to jump up and listen, making sure nobody had came in the front door, which could have caused a draught (but probably not strong enough to blow open a door as forcibly as that, especially when there was little or no wind), but couldn't hear anything. Got back into bed, fully awake, when I could feel what seemed like hands against my face, pulling me to look at whatever it was.

If you can give logical explanations for those, excellent. I never jump to the conclusion that it was a ghost, because I know the majority of the time they aren't, but I can't figure out those. And that's only two of many, many, many more examples that had happened through my life.

Mammanabammana wrote: »

I was going to post this in the creepy thread this evening but I'm going to put it here as being the closest I can manage to an uncontradictable ghost story.

Some years ago I was working in an old building in Dublin. We finished up late at night (not terribly late, around 10pm or so). As I was going to collect my coat and bag I passed the small section that had been converted into a tea service area, a small corner with sweets, biscuits, a burco etc. As I walked through the door beside the service area, I looked into the area and beside the burco I could see as clear as day the figure of a woman standing there. I could see her clearly enough to see what age she was, what she was wearing, her hair colour, the position she was standing in. All of that.

The building manager was still there so I asked her if the building was haunted, to which she replied "Yep - which one did you see?". So I began to describe to her what I'd seen. As I described the woman, the manager said that I was the third person in the space of a couple of months to see her. Not only that, but she was able, from the descriptions given to her by the other people who'd seen the woman, to describe to me the things I hadn't told her - the colour of the woman's clothes (blue), the type of headwear she was wearing - and then she went in and stood beside the burco and said "Was she standing like this?" and stood in the exact position, with her arms folded - another detail I hadn't told her.

The following week the former manager of the building arrived in. We told him about the ghost that I and others had seen. He was able to tell us who she was, her name, where she was buried - he remembered her from when he was a kid working there. The outfit she was wearing was consistent with what a 1960s tea woman would have been wearing (blue dress, white apron, little blue cap, hair tied back).

So can you give me a logical explanation for that that can logically come to any conclusion, any conclusion at all, OTHER than a ghost?

Ghosts exist, OP. Your choosing not to believe in them is your choice but you can't just settle on a point of view and then decide that you are just absolutely right and every single piece of evidence to the contrary is misinformed, misleading, can be explained even if you don't have the explanation or is just plain wrong, and that, by extension, everybody else who holds a differing point of view is wrong too.

You've already switched from saying you don't believe in them to knowing they don't exist - believing something and knowing something are two different things. You're entitled to believe anything you want. But you can't KNOW ghosts don't exist unless you can prove it. Unless and until you can prove that, it's a matter of believing they don't exist. Otherwise it's;

You - I have no proof but I believe/know, based on my experience, that ghosts don't exist
Me - I have no proof but I believe/know, based on my experience, that ghosts DO exist

Stalemate.

Rasheed wrote: »

Why did you start this thread?

To get people to tell their experiences of ghosts and then you tell them they're full of shîte?