Did humans really evolve from fish?

Kettleson · 03-02-2013 11:01PM #1

Is it conceivable that a random prawn or mackerel swimming around in our seas today, will have a distant relative who, in 3 or 4 million years time will have invented their equivalent of the iPad?

MadsL · 03-02-2013 11:04PM

Kettleson wrote: »

Is it conceivable that a random prawn or mackerel swimming around in our seas today, will have a distant relative who, in 3 or 4 million years time wil have invented their equivalent of the iPad?

No. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution

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smcgiff · 03-02-2013 11:05PM

Kettleson wrote: »

Is it conceivable that a random prawn or mackerel swimming around in our seas today, will have a distant relative who, in 3 or 4 million years time will have invented their equivalent of the iPad?

Why would they bother inventing something that was invented 3 or 4 million years ago. Dumb future Prawn.

pebbles21 · 03-02-2013 11:06PM

Steve Cods maybe?

PhlegmyMoses · 03-02-2013 11:10PM

One thing I have noticed recently is the fairly limited knowledge a decent number of Irish people have about evolution and how it works. It has to be because we mostly went to church affiliated schools. I had a decent teacher in primary school that explained it pretty well and didn't load on the Adam and Eve stuff when doing religion.

I was at the Natural History Museum in London at the weekend and I visited the Darwin centre. It's fairly immense. Millions of different examples of every species you can think of pickled and stored. Worth checking out if anyone is ever over there.

Kettleson · 03-02-2013 11:12PM

I hope there was a section on Thai Curried Prawns.

Gloomtastic! · 03-02-2013 11:13PM

You have 83% of a banana's DNA because you are related to a banana. You are related to every living thing on this planet. It's mind boggling but true.

Doctor Strange · 03-02-2013 11:13PM

Kettleson wrote: »

Is it conceivable that a random prawn or mackerel swimming around in our seas today, will have a distant relative who, in 3 or 4 million years time will have invented their equivalent of the iPad?

No. We share a common ancestor hundreds of millions of years ago. People really need to understand evolution better. If you have any questions, post them and I'll do my best to answer them.

Biggins · 03-02-2013 11:13PM

Kettleson wrote: »

Is it conceivable that a random prawn or mackerel swimming around in our seas today, will have a distant relative who, in 3 or 4 million years time will have invented their equivalent of the iPad?

You have got to be codding!

Hang on - I'll ask the actor Paul Rudd.

Kettleson · 03-02-2013 11:14PM

Gloomtastic! wrote: »

You have 83% of a banana's DNA because you are related to a banana. You are related to every living thing on this planet. It's mind boggling but true.

No! Really! That's nuts! Could we be related to pecans as well?

Biggins · 03-02-2013 11:15PM

Kettleson wrote: »

No! Really! That's nuts! Could we be related to pecans as well?

Well some of us are nuts!

MrStuffins · 03-02-2013 11:16PM

Of all of the books, of all of the scientific studies, of all of the peer reviewed pieces of work, of all the material you could've looked up to find an answer for this question............... you decided to ask it on After Hours?

THIS is why you don't know much!

Doc Ruby · 03-02-2013 11:17PM

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

One thing I have noticed recently is the fairly limited knowledge a decent number of Irish people have about evolution and how it works. It has to be because we mostly went to church affiliated schools.

There's always one. As much as I hate defending the church, being against evolution and science in general is not among their many sins, so you are full of shite my friend.

Stinicker · 03-02-2013 11:19PM

No, God created people haven't you ever heard of creationism?

PhlegmyMoses · 03-02-2013 11:19PM

Gloomtastic! wrote: »

You have 83% of a banana's DNA because you are related to a banana. You are related to every living thing on this planet. It's mind boggling but true.

Curiously, and this is only something I've learned recently, but genetically, paedophiles have more in common with crabs than they do with you or me. It's not scientifically proven, it's just fact.

MrStuffins · 03-02-2013 11:19PM

Doc Ruby wrote: »

There's always one. As much as I hate defending the church, being against evolution and science in general is not among their many sins, so you are full of shite my friend.

I think you'll find it is, at least at certian levels.

The RCC DO NOT believe that human beings evolved from anything. They believe Human Beings were created. Is this not true?

phasers · 03-02-2013 11:19PM

no some of them stayed in the water and some of them jumped out and turned into monkeys.

Then some of the monkeys decided to stay as monkeys and some decided that they didn't like being hairy and eating bananas so they turned into people.

Kettleson · 03-02-2013 11:20PM

MrStuffins wrote: »

Of all of the books, of all of the scientific studies, of all of the peer reviewed pieces of work, of all the material you could've looked up to find an answer for this question............... you decided to ask it on After Hours?

THIS is why you don't know much!

You have a point, however my relatives, the Dover Soles, we're not blessed with high levels of intelligence. You cant escape genetics.

smcgiff · 03-02-2013 11:20PM

Unforgettable _ Fire wrote: »

No. We share a common ancestor hundreds of millions of years ago. People really need to understand evolution better. If you have any questions, post them and I'll do my best to answer them.

I think people are picking up the OP incorrectly. Nothing of what he has said contradicts evolution.

His hypothesis is correct. Except, I think it unlikely it could happen in 4 million years more like 200 million years. Also, humans would most likely have to have become extinct as it's not likely that another species could evolve with humanity ruling the roost.

Think humanity evolving from a rodent like animal 65 million years ago.

MrStuffins · 03-02-2013 11:21PM

Kettleson wrote: »

You have a point, however my relatives, the Dover Soles, we're not blessed with high levels of intelligence. You cant escape genetics.

I think I saw them open for The Temptations.

PhlegmyMoses · 03-02-2013 11:22PM

Doc Ruby wrote: »

There's always one. As much as I hate defending the church, being against evolution and science in general is not among their many sins, so you are full of shite my friend.

You seem lovely, pleased to meet you.

I'm not necessarily blaming the church here. I'm more saying that, in my day anyway, some teachers struggled to balance religion and evolution, resulting in some weird bastardised version that doesn't really mean anything. Maybe just my experience.

tayto lover · 03-02-2013 11:22PM

I know a lad called Mickey GILL and a John Finn.

phasers · 03-02-2013 11:22PM

tayto lover wrote: »

I know a lad called Mickey GILL.

Definitive proof? I think so.

Take that theists!

Doc Ruby · 03-02-2013 11:24PM

MrStuffins wrote: »

I think you'll find it is, at least at certian levels.

The RCC DO NOT believe that human beings evolved from anything. They believe Human Beings were created. Is this not true?

Even that lunatic Schönborn accepts the science behind evolution. The only ones against evolution are protestant American sects. Look up the details yourself. I was certainly never taught intelligent design in school, many years ago.

Doc Ruby · 03-02-2013 11:25PM

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Maybe just my experience.

It would appear to be entirely in your own head alright. This whole creationism lark hitting the mainstream is a very post 2000 affair, and mostly confined to the US.

Victor · 03-02-2013 11:27PM

phasers wrote: »

Definitive proof? I think so.

Better proof.

PhlegmyMoses · 03-02-2013 11:28PM

Doc Ruby wrote: »

It would appear to be entirely in your own head alright. This whole creationism lark hitting the mainstream is a very post 2000 affair, and mostly confined to the US.

Again, a lovely passive aggressive rebuttal. I'll leave you at it.

Doctor Strange · 03-02-2013 11:28PM

smcgiff wrote: »

I think people are picking up the OP incorrectly. Nothing of what he has said contradicts evolution.

He's hypothesis is correct. Except, I think it unlikely it could happen in 4 million years more like 200 million years. Also, humans would most likely have to have become extinct as it's not likely that another species could evolve with humanity ruling the roost.

Think humanity evolving from a rodent like animal 65 million years ago.

That's true. I did misread based on other responses. So, to answer the OP correctly;

No, not that short a time :P

Doc Ruby · 03-02-2013 11:30PM

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Again, a lovely passive aggressive rebuttal. I'll leave you at it.

Yeah that's usually the best move when you get caught out accusing an entire country of being backwards religious primitives.

Mal-Adjusted · 03-02-2013 11:31PM

fooking prawns.

okay, if anything's going to do it next, it's the cuttlefish*

*seriously

MrStuffins · 03-02-2013 11:31PM

Doc Ruby wrote: »

Even that lunatic Schönborn accepts the science behind evolution. The only ones against evolution are protestant American sects. Look up the details yourself. I was certainly never taught intelligent design in school, many years ago.

I notice you never answered the question.

Did humans really evolve from fish?

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