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hoseman · 29-01-2013 07:25PM

whelan1 wrote: »

guy arrived this evening looking for more milk for the calf:eek: said he hadnt see it drink yet and it has a hump in its back, like wtf.... he said sure he wouldnt be alive at this stage if he wasnt drinking.....

Feck sake,had a 11/2 calf one year got biestings from a neighbour,was I delighted to get it,some people do not know when they are getting a good turn,year later ended up with a nice charlaois bull calf and cow.

reilig · 29-01-2013 08:49PM

Tragic events in Connacht Gold in Longford this afternoon. Hopefully those injured will be ok. Always found the staff there to be really good and they go out of their way to be helpful. Condolences to the family of the poor man who lost his life. I guess you never know what's around the corner.

funny man · 29-01-2013 09:33PM

very unfortunate, a second man has died.

ootbitb · 29-01-2013 09:37PM

simx wrote: »

have to buy a couple of milk feeders soon,agri direct have jfc 6 teat ones for 103e delivered, would rather one with each calfs section anyone know where id get one on te internet at the best price, anywhere youd get a jfc cheaper than that? thanks

Bought a five compartment milk-bar for e120 at a local store. Had to order it, took three days. Seem to be dearer online.

http://www.milkingmachines.co.uk/uk2shop-54.htm

http://www.greggcare.ie/DisplayProduct.aspx?ProdID=120&PT=Calf%20Feeding

greenpilot · 29-01-2013 11:02PM

ootbitb wrote: »

Bought a five compartment milk-bar for e120 at a local store. Had to order it, took three days. Seem to be dearer online.

http://www.milkingmachines.co.uk/uk2shop-54.htm

???????????????....:(

1chippy · 29-01-2013 11:36PM

just had a great game of kamakazie tetris with a red limo cow. my father would distract her through one gate while i tried to drop another gate to tighten her in. pulled a huge limo bull and just about got the iodine on.
we knew she would calve this evening because she started driving at the gate a couple of hours ago. she will be back to quiet in a couple of weeks but we wont be going near her for a bit.

wesleysniper38 · 30-01-2013 12:30AM

1chippy wrote: »

just had a great game of kamakazie tetris with a red limo cow. my father would distract her through one gate while i tried to drop another gate to tighten her in. pulled a huge limo bull and just about got the iodine on.
we knew she would calve this evening because she started driving at the gate a couple of hours ago. she will be back to quiet in a couple of weeks but we wont be going near her for a bit.

One of the reasons I got rid of anything even half agressive... a bitcj like that only needs to get lucky once. You need to be lucky all the time!

naughto · 30-01-2013 12:46AM

rancher wrote: »

The wind was blamed for knocking the wall on those people in Connaught gold in Longford

how could it be the wind if it was an internal wall
looks like there trying to cover themselves for what could and prob will be coming down the line

freedominacup · 30-01-2013 07:16AM

Here may be a reason why the pressure hasn't been as bad as it might have been. I'd say it's a people in glasshouses situation:eek:

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/horse-dna-found-in-burgers-being-sold-in-spain-3369930.html

Horse DNA in Spain

td5man · 30-01-2013 08:48AM

wesleysniper38 wrote: »

One of the reasons I got rid of anything even half agressive... a bitcj like that only needs to get lucky once. You need to be lucky all the time!

Read this and went to check a friesian cow that was calving, while she wasnt as mad as chippy's i still wouldnt trust her. She didn't want any assistance until i started to pull with the calving jack, had a big heifer calf thats 80% heifers so far.
Serious wind here for the last 10 minutes doesnt seem to have done any damage.

whelan1 · 30-01-2013 09:31AM

td5man wrote: »

Read this and went to check a friesian cow that was calving, while she wasnt as mad as chippy's i still wouldnt trust her. She didn't want any assistance until i started to pull with the calving jack, had a big heifer calf thats 80% heifers so far.
Serious wind here for the last 10 minutes doesnt seem to have done any damage.

did you not learn from the "now that spring is here thread" you dont mention how well things are going-heifer calves- as it will change:D

freedominacup · 30-01-2013 09:53AM

td5man wrote: »

Read this and went to check a friesian cow that was calving, while she wasnt as mad as chippy's i still wouldnt trust her. She didn't want any assistance until i started to pull with the calving jack, had a big heifer calf thats 80% heifers so far.
Serious wind here for the last 10 minutes doesnt seem to have done any damage.

You've spoken about it, last of the year for you so.

funny man · 30-01-2013 10:21AM

naughto wrote: »

how could it be the wind if it was an internal wall
looks like there trying to cover themselves for what could and prob will be coming down the line

Always keep and open mind and try not to jump to conclusions! (i must remember that one).

it is not uncommon if the store has large doors at the back for feedstuffs and the wind gets in, well it will either go out an other door if it can, lift the roof or in this case quite possably knock the wall.

Juniorhurler · 30-01-2013 10:22AM

td5man wrote: »

Read this and went to check a friesian cow that was calving, while she wasnt as mad as chippy's i still wouldnt trust her. She didn't want any assistance until i started to pull with the calving jack, had a big heifer calf thats 80% heifers so far.
Serious wind here for the last 10 minutes doesnt seem to have done any damage.

Were you using sexed semen?
We are in sucklers and of the first 25 calves had 19 bulls. Then had 9 heifers in a row. It generally evens out, if not this year then next.

td5man · 30-01-2013 10:57AM

whelan1 wrote: »

did you not learn from the "now that spring is here thread" you dont mention how well things are going-heifer calves- as it will change:D

Thought that when i was writing it alright.

rancher · 30-01-2013 10:58AM

naughto wrote: »

how could it be the wind if it was an internal wall
looks like there trying to cover themselves for what could and prob will be coming down the line

Think you're right.....did you ever see such a poorly built wall. those responsible would want to be disappearing

td5man · 30-01-2013 11:02AM

Juniorhurler wrote: »

Were you using sexed semen?
We are in sucklers and of the first 25 calves had 19 bulls. Then had 9 heifers in a row. It generally evens out, if not this year then next.

Using a bull. AI man was saying he used sexed semen last year and they nearly all repeated.
Using ai this year will probably all have bull calves next year, we'd usually get a greater number of heifers than bulls.

freedominacup · 30-01-2013 11:20AM

naughto wrote: »

how could it be the wind if it was an internal wall
looks like there trying to cover themselves for what could and prob will be coming down the line

30 ft high brezze blocks with no apparent pillars that's how:eek:

hugo29 · 30-01-2013 11:46AM

freedominacup wrote: »

30 ft high brezze blocks with no apparent pillars that's how:eek:

i am not trying to make excuses, somebody is at fault or else its a freak accident and if somebody is at fault they should have to face the consequences but pillars are not a requirement, the wall could have steel vertically or horizontally as a secondary support or may have been butressed by walls running perpindicular to same,

but it does sound dodgy

simx · 30-01-2013 12:37PM

got two more fr bulls today aswell as 2 yesterday for double suckling,started 1 training last night,seems to be going well, starting another tonight,then the other 2 are for a couple of milky cows calving in next few days, one last night i rubbed afterbirth all over him, then locked him and her own calf in a pen together so the cow could still see, then after 2-3 hrs i bailed up cow and let calves out after a few minutes of sucking let out cow, she pushed away new calf a few times but he was a persistant lad so she gave up,then locked two of them back in pen for night,let them out again this morning without any bailing and it worked fine, if only it all was that easy

bbam · 30-01-2013 01:17PM

simx wrote: »

got two more fr bulls today aswell as 2 yesterday for double suckling,started 1 training last night,seems to be going well, starting another tonight,then the other 2 are for a couple of milky cows calving in next few days, one last night i rubbed afterbirth all over him, then locked him and her own calf in a pen together so the cow could still see, then after 2-3 hrs i bailed up cow and let calves out after a few minutes of sucking let out cow, she pushed away new calf a few times but he was a persistant lad so she gave up,then locked two of them back in pen for night,let them out again this morning without any bailing and it worked fine, if only it all was that easy

That was a handy one all right.
My father insisted on trying this years ago but it rarely worked out well. Then again his patience was limited.

reilig · 30-01-2013 02:51PM

naughto wrote: »

how could it be the wind if it was an internal wall
looks like there trying to cover themselves for what could and prob will be coming down the line

The building is a large industrial unit about 300ft long by 200ft wide. 50% of it is the shop and garden centre, the other 50% is the store for the farm feeds. A quite high wall was built from 4 inch blocks on their flat to make the division and the shop has a ceiling which makes is warmer. There is a huge roller steel door on the feed store which is opened and closed on windy days to keep the wind out. There is quite a large electric sliding door on the front of the shop.

Have you ever seen what can happen if you close both the front and back door of a house at the one time? Internal doors can bang, pictures can shake and in extreme cases, the pressure is so much that it can smash the glass in one of the doors. I imagine that this is what happened in Connacht Gold - except on a much greater scale, on a really windy day and with tragic consequences.

naughto · 30-01-2013 03:34PM

freedominacup wrote: »

30 ft high brezze blocks with no apparent pillars that's how:eek:

jesus dident no that.i bet the insurance will but it down as an act of god as in bad weather and try and get out of it ive seen it happen before

Injuryprone · 30-01-2013 05:40PM

reilig wrote: »

The building is a large industrial unit about 300ft long by 200ft wide. 50% of it is the shop and garden centre, the other 50% is the store for the farm feeds. A quite high wall was built from 4 inch blocks on their flat to make the division and the shop has a ceiling which makes is warmer. There is a huge roller steel door on the feed store which is opened and closed on windy days to keep the wind out. There is quite a large electric sliding door on the front of the shop.

Have you ever seen what can happen if you close both the front and back door of a house at the one time? Internal doors can bang, pictures can shake and in extreme cases, the pressure is so much that it can smash the glass in one of the doors. I imagine that this is what happened in Connacht Gold - except on a much greater scale, on a really windy day and with tragic consequences.

Those doors are covered in the wind codes and should have been designed for.

Was the wall built all the way up to the roof by any chance?

reilig · 30-01-2013 05:47PM

Injuryprone wrote: »

Was the wall built all the way up to the roof by any chance?

I'm not 100% sure. I'm in there once or twice a week an only ever noticed that it is very high - it goes at least the height of the ceiling in the shop.

hoseman · 30-01-2013 05:56PM

Eventually treated my self to a hook drenching gun to-day,Chanelle make € 70.00.Will be using it friday to give a vitamin drech to weanlings.Gun appears fragile.It's one more thing for a neighbour to borrow when he sees it!His excuse will be the same ,he would buy one only he has no use for it,and yet he has twice the amount of cattle as me,I just hate borrowing something will happen it and then you end up fixing it or repairing it.Sorry ! rant over.

rancher · 30-01-2013 06:27PM

reilig wrote: »

The building is a large industrial unit about 300ft long by 200ft wide. 50% of it is the shop and garden centre, the other 50% is the store for the farm feeds. A quite high wall was built from 4 inch blocks on their flat to make the division and the shop has a ceiling which makes is warmer. There is a huge roller steel door on the feed store which is opened and closed on windy days to keep the wind out. There is quite a large electric sliding door on the front of the shop.

Have you ever seen what can happen if you close both the front and back door of a house at the one time? Internal doors can bang, pictures can shake and in extreme cases, the pressure is so much that it can smash the glass in one of the doors. I imagine that this is what happened in Connacht Gold - except on a much greater scale, on a really windy day and with tragic consequences.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0129/365137-longford-garden-centre-accident/, if you look close, they are 9' Cavity with shag all mortar between them...very poor, good picture at .58 secs on the second video

just do it · 30-01-2013 07:46PM

hoseman wrote: »

His excuse will be the same ,he would buy one only he has no use for it

Sure he's no need to borrow it then

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Let us know how you get on

whelan1 · 30-01-2013 07:50PM

had 3 missed calls from school this morning, was assuming 1 of my lot where misbehaving, anyways principal said, i see you have a big field of rushes can we pick some for st brigids crosses? took great pleasure in saying that field isnt mine

milkprofit · 30-01-2013 08:04PM

jeps 1 feb already
you slipped up whelan You should have told him you had no problem with him picking the rushes from that field

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