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Ethnic Cleansing in Israel?

  • 28-01-2013 04:56PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭


    Israel admits forcing birth control shots on Ethiopian women

    After Israel was accused of forcing Ethiopian women to accept injections of the contraceptive Depo-Provera in an attempt to lower birth rates among black immigrants, an official has for the first time admitted use of the drug among Ethiopian women.

    In a letter to the Israeli Health Ministry Director General Prof. Ron Gamzu, Sharona Eliahu-Chai of the Association of Civil Rights in Israel, demanded that the Israeli health authorities stop administering the injections immediately. The letter also demanded that the authorities conduct an investigation into allegations stemming from the practice.

    The Association of Civil Rights in Israel is a group that represents several women’s rights and Ethiopian immigrants’ groups.

    The National reports that Hedva Eyal, project coordinator of a women's rights research group, said in Haifa: "I believe there is a deliberate targeting of these [Ethiopian] women."

    According to The National, Eyal and other activists say that the birth rate in the Ethiopian community in Israel has halved in the past 10 years. Eyal's civil rights group and six others have asked the Israeli health ministry to explain the widespread use of Depo-Provera injections among Ethiopians.

    http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/342250

    I wonder how they'll spin their way out of this one...

    Funny how history has a tendency to repeat itself.

    In before the cries of Antisemitism =p


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,860 ✭✭✭✭inforfun


    Since when is birth control ethnic cleansing?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 655 ✭✭✭hyperborean


    inforfun wrote: »
    Since when is birth control ethnic cleansing?

    When it is given to a specific population without their consent or KNowledge!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,204 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    inforfun wrote: »
    Since when is birth control ethnic cleansing?

    Let me make this simple for you.

    If you prevent members of a specific ethnic group from having babies...see where this is going?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    inforfun wrote: »
    Since when is birth control ethnic cleansing?

    What would you call it, oh wise one?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 799 ✭✭✭Logical_Bear



    In before the cries of Hasbara shills =p
    FYP


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    It's straight up genocide.

    I'm surprised we're not seeing more coverage of this. The UN should be getting involved and bringing a major criminal trial against the Israeli government.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,484 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    I'm suprised Israel lets Ethiopians in as they don't give a f*ck what anyone else thinks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 770 ✭✭✭seanmacc


    seamus wrote: »
    It's straight up genocide.

    I'm surprised we're not seeing more coverage of this. The UN should be getting involved and bringing a major criminal trial against the Israeli government.

    They should. The problem being is whenever Israel gets held to account for anything they send a couple of Apache helicopters in to blow the sh*t out of the Gaza Strip or South Lebanon to take attention away from it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,076 ✭✭✭✭Czarcasm


    The amount of Israel threads in AH are enough to fill a forum all of it's own.

    If the catholic church would stop encouraging unsafe sex in Ethiopia would they too be accused of ethnic cleansing?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    seamus wrote: »
    It's straight up genocide.

    I'm surprised we're not seeing more coverage of this. The UN should be getting involved and bringing a major criminal trial against the Israeli government.

    You probably shouldnt be


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    Czarcasm wrote: »
    If the catholic church would stop encouraging unsafe sex in Ethiopia would they too be accused of ethnic cleansing?

    There's a slight difference between encouraging safe sex and forced, secretly given contraception.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    Why is this not major news. If germany was at it or america or any other western country it would be massive news.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭mackg


    woodoo wrote: »
    Why is this not major news. If germany was at it or america or any other western country it would be massive news.

    I agree with this, I will be home from work in time for the news at 6 and will be very interested to see where this fits into the programme.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    The state of Israel as we know it today was built on the back of ethnic cleansing, so no surprise here I would think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,299 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Makes a change from them keeping down the Palestinian population by demolishing their houses, keeping their women in labour at checkpoints for hours and the good old reliable carpet bombing!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    I wonder will fox news be running this as their top story?
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    Doubt it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 655 ✭✭✭hyperborean


    woodoo wrote: »
    I wonder will fox news be running this as their top story?
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    Doubt it.

    Dont be suprised if they run a story on these pesky ethiopians..... some sort of terrorist connection.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Makes a change from them keeping down the Palestinian population by demolishing their houses, keeping their women in labour at checkpoints for hours and the good old reliable carpet bombing!



    I heard an anti-occupation activist claim recently that Palestinians make up 50% of the population of Israel (if Gaza and the West Bank are included, presumably).

    Does that seem likely?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,299 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    The weird thing is that Israel airlifted about 40,000 Ethiopians that they deemed to be jewish enough during the famines in the 1980s.

    Odd that they're now turned on them. :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    Lots of people very willing to believe what the read without any evidence.

    Why are people so easily believing 3 year old story that originates in the UAE?

    Why use a contraceptive that only lasts 3 months for "ethnic cleansing"?

    Why has the Health Ministry Director General instructed hospitals to stop using the drug last week?

    Looks like peoples bias is getting in the way of their common sense. As usual...


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    You stay classy racist state of Israel


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,496 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    They're actually forcibly preventing expansion of the Jewish population?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Devil's Advocate:

    Why do we have an irrevocable right to pop out a young'un?

    The government reserves the right to take your kids from you but doesn't have the right to stop you from having kids? That's just a recipe for disaster.

    It seems to me to be one of those "you have it because you have it" things but I can't think of a logical argument for it. It intuitively makes sense you should have that right but that's obviously not an argument.

    Anyone?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,299 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Iwannahurl wrote: »
    I heard an anti-occupation activist claim recently that Palestinians make up 50% of the population of Israel (if Gaza and the West Bank are included, presumably).

    Does that seem likely?

    Yep.

    Israel has illegally annexed Occupied East Jeruslam and the Occupied Golan Heights as it gives them more lebensraum with the right population "balance". Nice democracy, eh? :rolleyes:

    The so-called big withdrawl from Gaza (of remember, illegal colonialists) was simply an economic decision to move them out of Gaza and into the West Bank and eventually doubling the amount of criminal land stealers in the WB with the plan to eventually grab as much of the WB as possible while condemning Gaza to hell.

    With the illegal apartheid wall built into the WB and the ghettoization of Gaza, their plan worked for them.

    The West meanwhile punish Israel by, em, increasing trade instead of dishing out sanctions.

    Odd to say the least. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    The weird thing is that Israel airlifted about 40,000 Ethiopians that they deemed to be jewish enough during the famines in the 1980s.

    Odd that they're now turned on them. :confused:




    They were looking a bit pale at the time ... but eventually regained their usual colour.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    studiorat wrote: »
    Lots of people (.......)common sense. As usual...

    From the Israeli press
    A government official has for the first time acknowledged the practice of injecting women of Ethiopian origin with the long-acting contraceptive Depo-Provera.
    Health Minister Director General Prof. Ron Gamzu has instructed the four health maintenance organizations to stop the practice as a matter of course. The ministry and other state agencies had previously denied knowledge or responsibility for the practice, which was first reported five years ago. Gamzu's letter instructed "all gynecologists in the HMOs not to renew prescriptions for Depo-Provera for women of Ethiopian origin if for any reason there is concern that they might not understand the ramifications of the treatment." Gamzu also instructed physicians to avail themselves of translators if need be.
    Gamzu's letter came in response to a letter from Sharona Eliahu-Chai of the Association of Civil Rights in Israel, representing several women's rights and Ethiopian immigrants' groups. The letter demanded the injections cease immediately and that an investigation be launched into the practice

    Furthermore
    About six weeks ago, on an Educational Television program journalist Gal Gabbay revealed the results of interviews with 35 Ethiopian immigrants. The women's testimony could help explain the almost 50-percent decline over the past 10 years in the birth rate of Israel's Ethiopian community. According to the program, while the women were still in transit camps in Ethiopia they were sometimes intimidated or threatened into taking the injection.
    http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/state-admits-problematic-birth-control-shots-for-ethiopian-women-1.496664


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Seachmall wrote: »
    Why do we have an irrevocable right to pop out a young'un?
    Because strictly speaking, we exist to procreate. Therefore to forcibly prevent procreation is to deny a person the very essence of existence.

    Philosophically all humans are born equal, therefore saving any actions on a person's part that would warrant restriction of their rights (like committing a crime), no individual or government has the authority to remove rights from one person or group of people discriminately.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 381 ✭✭Bad Santa


    I wish they'd inject some into that Yazoo drink.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    They're actually forcibly preventing expansion of the Jewish population?

    They'd presumably state that these were the wrong kind of Jews. Its the inevitable consequence of harping on about a 'jewish' state. Certain parties will seek to control the narrative of what is and is not Jewish and maintain hegemony in that manner.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭Spunge


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    The weird thing is that Israel airlifted about 40,000 Ethiopians that they deemed to be jewish enough during the famines in the 1980s.

    Odd that they're now turned on them. :confused:

    40,000. No more, no less.


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